Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Martin DeMello
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Alain Frisch alain.fri...@lexifi.com wrote: If you're under Windows, you might be interested in the CSML tool. It allows you to build quite easily your own binding to .Net libraries. The CSML distribution contains an example of a mini-binding to Windows Forms;

Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
martindeme...@gmail.com : Anything other than lablgtk2 I am affraid there is no. -- Architecte Informatique : Administration Systeme, Recherche Developpement +261 34 56 000 19

RE: [Caml-list] Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread David Allsopp
Thanassis Tsiodras wrote: I apologize beforehand if this is not the forum to ask. I am on the fence about whether to learn OCaml or not, and while reading an article called Why OCaml (http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~murphyk/Software/Ocaml/why_ocaml.html), I saw that OCaml was praised for the speed of

Re: [Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Christophe Troestler
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:50:15 +, Isaac Gouy wrote: Jeff Meister nanaki at gmail.com writes: We know what your rules are for binary-trees; repeating them does not help. When Christophe TROESTLER wrongly states - OCaml is not authorized to make use of its very own library! - he shows

Re: [Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Eray Ozkural
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Christophe Troestler christophe.troestler+oc...@umh.ac.bechristophe.troestler%2boc...@umh.ac.be wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:50:15 +, Isaac Gouy wrote: Jeff Meister nanaki at gmail.com writes: We know what your rules are for binary-trees;

Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 11/24/2010 03:33 AM, Martin DeMello wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Jacques Garrigue garri...@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp wrote: I'm not sure which examples you looked at for lablgtk2. The goals of lablgtk are: * be as close as possible to the spirit of Gtk+ * while providing type and

Re: [Caml-list] Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Vincent Aravantinos
Hi Thanassis, Le 22 nov. 10 à 14:21, Thanassis Tsiodras a écrit : I apologize beforehand if this is not the forum to ask. (...) Is it just hype, then? Or am I missing something? may we know, after all this intense discussion, what is your feeling? Did this debate enlightened your views?

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2010-11-24 Thread DisCoTec2011
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Re: [Caml-list] Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Thanassis Tsiodras
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Vincent Aravantinos vincent.aravanti...@gmail.com wrote: may we know, after all this intense discussion, what is your feeling? Well... (ducks, wears helmet). Dr Jon Harrop communicated with me directly (two days ago)... and when I expressed my lack of faith

Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Andrei Formiga
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael Ekstrand mich...@elehack.net wrote: On 11/24/2010 03:33 AM, Martin DeMello wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Jacques Garrigue garri...@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp wrote: I'm not sure which examples you looked at for lablgtk2. The goals of lablgtk are:

Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Hezekiah M. Carty
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Martin DeMello martindeme...@gmail.com wrote: I was surprised not to see much interest in GUI DSLs in OCaml. It's not complete or a full-blown DSL, but I started a small Gtk-light module a while ago. I haven't had the time to complete it, but it shouldn't be

Re: [Caml-list] Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Vincent Aravantinos
Le 24 nov. 10 à 16:30, Thanassis Tsiodras a écrit : On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Vincent Aravantinos vincent.aravanti...@gmail.com wrote: may we know, after all this intense discussion, what is your feeling? Well... (ducks, wears helmet). Dr Jon Harrop communicated with me directly

[Caml-list] Automated GC tweaking for OCaml

2010-11-24 Thread Christophe Raffalli
Hello, Here is a temptative of automated GC tweaking. It mainly tries to guess a minor_heap_size that will both increase speed and reactivity !!! It has a description in it ! It also move to a proportional increment of major_heap instead of a constant one, but this is not very usefull in my

[Caml-list] Re: Automated GC tweaking for OCaml

2010-11-24 Thread Christophe Raffalli
And with the attached file !!! -- Christophe Raffalli Universite de Savoie Batiment Le Chablais, bureau 21 73376 Le Bourget-du-Lac Cedex tel: (33) 4 79 75 81 03 fax: (33) 4 79 75 87 42 mail: christophe.raffa...@univ-savoie.fr www: http://www.lama.univ-savoie.fr/~RAFFALLI

Re: [Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Christophe Raffalli
Hello, Here is a test of gctweak.ml on the now famous binary-tree shootout bench ... As you can see it is a 30% speed up which is not too bad, just adding a file on the compilation command line ! I reattached the file, because I correct a few comments in it ... and a syntax error that is only

[Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Isaac Gouy
Thanassis Tsiodras ttsiodras at gmail.com writes: -snip- However, when I actually went to the Language Shootout page suggested in the article, I found out that OCaml is not 2nd, it is 13th, behind languages like Haskell and C#...

Re: [Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
Hey, guys. Time to stop this, please. Thanks, David On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Isaac Gouy wrote: Ed Keith e_d_k at yahoo.com writes: I am not asking WHAT the rules are but a JUSTIFICATION for them (which you have been incapable of providing so far). I feel no need to provide a

RE: [Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread David Allsopp
Isaac Gouy wrote: David Allsopp dra-news at metastack.com writes: -snip- Reducing an entire programming language's strengths (or weaknesses!) to a single number is just not really realistic - the truth is more complex than one single-precision floating point number (or even an array

Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Alain Frisch
On 11/24/2010 10:47 AM, Martin DeMello wrote: No, I'm on linux, but CSML does look very interesting. Does it work well with Mono? Yes, CSML itself has been adapted to work with Mono and I did a few tests (some of screenshots show Windows Forms GUIs controlled by OCaml code, under Linux with

RE: [Caml-list] [Was: Is OCaml fast?] Not really sure...

2010-11-24 Thread David Allsopp
Isaac Gouy wrote: Ed Keith e_d_k at yahoo.com writes: I am not asking WHAT the rules are but a JUSTIFICATION for them (which you have been incapable of providing so far). I feel no need to provide a JUSTIFICATION to you for anything. Am I to interpret this to mean that

Re: [Caml-list] Re: Is OCaml fast?

2010-11-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gerd Stolpmann i...@gerd-stolpmann.de writes: Am Dienstag, den 23.11.2010, 17:53 + schrieb Isaac Gouy: Christophe TROESTLER Christophe.Troestler+ocaml at umh.ac.be writes: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:03:48 +, Isaac Gouy wrote: C version : 12.11 secs OCaml version : 47.22

Re: [Caml-list] Desktop GUI toolkits - current state of the art?

2010-11-24 Thread Jeremy Yallop
On 24 November 2010 21:37, Alain Frisch alain.fri...@lexifi.com wrote: Being able to write things like: lazy let rec button1 =  button ~click:(fun () - button2 # disable) Button1 and button2 =  button ~click:(fun () - button1 # disable) Button2 in ... As the lazy keyword suggests, we