Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
BTW if you want to point a run.camping.io or host.camping.io or anything you like to 66.116.108.12 will then be able to show an (hopefully) working demo using the official domain ;) On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:08 AM, david costa wrote: > oh sure ! for me is not a problem - love camping.io as a d

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
Here is my progress on the server :) Spent several hours to try to work on a nginx + passenger setup on the cloud even using some pre-made ami with no success. It was also fairly slow vs. a real server (even on an XLarge instance). So I went back to one spare brand new mac mini server quadcore i7

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
oh sure ! for me is not a problem - love camping.io as a domain ! first worry is to have a working system that is fairly stable and usable albeit it might be launched as alpha/beta anyway :) On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Jenna Fox wrote: > We can just use a *.camping.io catchall entry > > >

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
We can just use a *.camping.io catchall entry On 31/03/2012, at 3:30 PM, david costa wrote: > Hello Jenna, > we could use host.camping.io or anything.camping.io for the frontend but if > the server has to allow users to create myfancyapp.camping.io it would be > complicated as I would need to

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
Hello Jenna, we could use host.camping.io or anything.camping.io for the frontend but if the server has to allow users to create myfancyapp.camping.io it would be complicated as I would need to run the camping.io DNS on the hosting server to create the sub domains on the fly. I started working on i

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
Those both sound like brilliant servers! I'm not laughing at all. If my mac mini is good enough for sky rim, it's good enough for web hosting for sure! Can we just use camping.io? I think starting simple is a good idea. Databases are pretty cool among web developers for various reasons, but I t

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
Dropbox sounds like a great idea, except for if it starts syncing an sqlite db constantly. Another good option would be if we can make an nginx config (or a camping app!) which does WebDAV - finder, explorer, and nautilus all support it, and it means site upload bits and site serving bits bot

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
+9 this :) -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet. david costa skrev: Hello all, I am opening a separate topic just to brainstorm the idea of a free, simple camping deployment/hosting option. Now this is not about re-inventing the wheel as heroku a

Re: dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Everitt
oops - should have put my last reply here... - DaveE Hello all, I am opening a separate topic just to brainstorm the idea of a free, simple camping deployment/hosting option. Now this is not about re-inventing the wheel as heroku already supports camping apps too. So this would be the ground

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Everitt
Having just spent a whole afternoon: updating my sources in Debian just to install curl just to install rvm and check rvm requirements... [paused here and logged out of server] to find that I now have to add my user to the rvm group (to find useradd -G rvm myusername *fails*)... then instal

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Everitt
ah - was just stripping out the excess and responding to multiple parts of multiple messages in email-style. Will revert to adding at the top - DaveE :-) Wow. We should really enforce some sort of top or bottom posting policy on this mailing list. Preferably top because That's the default

dead easy deployment / Camping on the fly

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
Hello all, I am opening a separate topic just to brainstorm the idea of a free, simple camping deployment/hosting option. Now this is not about re-inventing the wheel as heroku already supports camping apps too. So this would be the ground idea: a) This would be entirely free - no paid plans to up

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
I agree with Dave that we have to go pretty much back to basic when is about deployment. I have been running a free hosting for several years (2001 to 2006 I think http://dotgeek.org) and I think that many programmers get lost in running thins in reverse proxy which, as far as I gather, is gettin

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
Wow. We should really enforce some sort of top or bottom posting policy on this mailing list. Preferably top because That's the default for most clients -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet. Jenna Fox skrev: Disable comments on youtube perhaps? P.S. RE:

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Everitt
I'll go with unicorn then. Apparently it handles more requests/sec than Thin. But that might be old benchmarks who knows. Sounds great - my sites are the same setup, but with regular thin. :) All I ask is that it avoids sentences such as this one (from Unicorn): "Slow clients should only be

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
Disable comments on youtube perhaps? P.S. RE: 'unicorn sounds nice' for those who haven't heard it yet, this is what Unicorn sounds like: http://d.pr/olau — Jenna On Saturday, 31 March 2012 at 1:20 AM, Dave Everitt wrote: > > On 30 Mar 2012, at 14:51, david costa wrote: > > > > Vimeo is

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
Oh my bad but on a fresh install on mac this is what comes up. Perhaps that is part of my rack configuration or what is default on rack. The idea is that I think the "simple dumbest" build will launch the webserver with thin(camping --port 80). Nothing against Unicorn if is not a pain to install/co

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Everitt
On 30 Mar 2012, at 14:51, david costa wrote: Vimeo is great (I use it for a lot of professional videos) but perhaps we should have them on youtube too because google ranks video from youtube higher on their searches. YouTube: loads of trolls (-2) but lots of eyeballs (+1) = total: -1 Vimeo:

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
They're all really really fast. I like the idea of how unicorn works though - it sounds quite nice. Apache for legacy stuff only these days. I wonder if there are any server's with a logo as awesome as LLVM's. — Jenna On Saturday, 31 March 2012 at 1:06 AM, Isak Andersson wrote: > That's what

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
That's what I was suspecting. I'll go with unicorn then. Apparently it handles more requests/sec than Thin. But that might be old benchmarks who knows. Not that speed is everything. Stability etc is also important. But whatever. There shouldn't be too much of a difference in setting them up anyw

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
Hello Jenna, I totally agree in keeping it consistent hence I think we should use Comic Zine for the webcast titles etc. Isak will be using that. I don't think we will be using topstitch for now and I checked the license is anyway reasonable (30$ on my font) but glad to know you got it free :) When

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
So we should use the one in the Camping.io repository? Can I get that in OpenType? -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet. Jenna Fox skrev: Quickly while we're on the topic of typefaces: Our web design makes use of a typeface called Topstitch in the sideb

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
For screencasts I recommend whichever of the fashionable web servers has the coolest looking logo when zoomed out a bit, as it'll look good on video. Unicorn has a pretty great logo which scales well. Who ever said ruby severs don't scale? — Jenna On Saturday, 31 March 2012 at 12:55 AM, Je

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
I've never heard of that. Camping is a rack app. It works with any kind of rack server. Thin is in no way official or standard. Use whatever you think is good! There are so many ways to deploy ruby apps and nearly all of them are really great. It's not worth fussing too much over unless you're m

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
Oh, thin is a standard in Camping? Never noticed. -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet. david costa skrev: For the deployment video I think you should perhaps start with the standard configuration which has thin and nginx but of course if you have time you

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
Quickly while we're on the topic of typefaces: Our web design makes use of a typeface called Topstitch in the sidebar navigational menu. The type designer Typodermic donated a license to use this typeface on our site, but it is a commercial font so should not be used outside of official campi

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
For the deployment video I think you should perhaps start with the standard configuration which has thin and nginx but of course if you have time you can do one with Unicorn too. The idea is to make it easy for users to run without having to install too much extra stuff. Best Regards David On Fri,

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread david costa
This is good but let's use the same font as the website :) http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Comic-Zine-OT On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Isak Andersson wrote: > ** I've heard nothing but good myself. The biggest difference is that > Slim is a bit more "friendly" isn't it? > > And what did you

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
I've heard nothing but good myself. The biggest difference is that Slim is a bit more "friendly" isn't it? And what did you think about the image :) - Isak -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet. Jenna Fox skrev: I've certainly heard nothing bad of Unicorn

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Jenna Fox
I've certainly heard nothing bad of Unicorn from my friend who works in the github server management team. — Jenna On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 6:12 PM, Isak Andersson wrote: > Yeah, it's just a matter of preference I guess. I like both but I'm going > with Unicorn :) > > Also, I guess I s

Re: camping paid examples + screencasts ?

2012-03-30 Thread Isak Andersson
Yeah, it's just a matter of preference I guess. I like both but I'm going with Unicorn :) Also, I guess I should ask the whole mailing list on this, I created a little base thing for presentations when I'm just talking concepts in the screencasts. I took some assets from the Camping.io site to