Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Bwana Kizito]

@Mathayo they still do and they are probably in this thread too.

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On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Mathayo Josephat 
wrote:

> ELCT in Tanzania used care2x and managed to implement some of the
> hospitals, although sustainability was a challenge because of the
> developers running away from the project.
>
> Challenge of integration care2x and accounting system, let us try to fix
> the existing bugs then consultancy work will be there. Hopefully even other
> Country like Malawi, Namibia etc used it
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Schofield <
> tim.schofield1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
>> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
>> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
>> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
>>
>> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> >
>> > I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
>> > time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date
>> and
>> > have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in
>> the
>> > past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I
>> don't
>> > have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to
>> this
>> > (maybe 4).
>> >
>> > If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just
>> be a
>> > pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an
>> issue
>> > (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds
>> to  be
>> > able to commit to this project?
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield" 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
>> >> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>> >>
>> >> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
>> >> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
>> >> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
>> >> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
>> >> > people are probably fed up :).
>> >> >
>> >> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP
>> 7.0
>> >> > by default (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
>> >> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
>> >> > will follow.
>> >> >
>> >> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
>> >> > whether there is the will to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Tim
>> >> >
>> >> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi!
>> >> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I
>> found
>> >> >> a lot
>> >> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
>> >> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
>> >> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake
>> up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield <
>> tim.schofield1...@gmail.com>:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6
>> as a
>> >> >>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>> >> >>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work
>> as
>> >> >>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>> >> >>> entirely.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>> Tim
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal > >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Hi Tim,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in
>> PHP
>> >> >>> > 7.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Best,
>> >> >>> > Israel.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>> >> >>> >  wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
>> >> >>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >> >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> >> >>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> >>> 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Hi Maros, I use this one for my testing

https://www.kwamoja.org/downloads/care2x.tar.gz

Tim

On 28 April 2016 at 14:25,   wrote:
> Is there a mysql test DB (i.e not just schema & static data) that will work
> with 2.7 somewhere I can grab it? Thanks!
>
> Maros
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Tim Schofield 
> wrote:
>>
>> Ah sorry. The branch we are using is the 2.7 branch
>> https://github.com/care2x/2.7
>>
>> This branch is one that I know is in use in many hospitals which is
>> important for hospitals to upgrade, and it is the only one being
>> actively developed.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 April 2016 at 08:53, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> wrote:
>> > The codebase we're using.  If we use TZ version,  that's the base
>> > branch,
>> > everyone should clone that branch work on it and then request you (or
>> > somebody responsible)  reviews and merges the changes into the original
>> > code.
>> >
>> > I'd suggest that we also send a Screenshot of the problem fixed,  so we
>> > know
>> > we have tested code and not just another bug to close.
>> >
>> > On Apr 28, 2016 9:48 AM, "Tim Schofield" 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi David sorry if I am being a bit thick what do you mean by baseline?
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> Course View Towers,
>> >> Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
>> >> Kampala
>> >> T +256 (0) 312 314 418
>> >> M +256 (0) 752 963 325
>> >> www.weberpafrica.com
>> >> Twitter: @TimSchofield2
>> >> Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk
>> >>
>> >> On 27 Apr 2016 13:02, "David Sarmiento Q." 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Which baseline are we using?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 27, 2016 10:48, "Tim Schofield" 
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  I think that there were a few issues that arise from the ELCT project
>>  that we can learn from moving forward.
>> 
>>  Firstly they used a non standard version of care2x which meant that
>>  any bug fixes etc applied to the main version weren't always included
>>  in their version. I think it is very important to try and unite
>>  around
>>  the one code base. The fragmentation that occurred before helps
>>  nobody
>>  in the long run.
>> 
>>  Secondly there was an unwillingness from the ELCT to share the
>>  consultancy fees they were earning from the hospitals with the
>>  developers whom they wanted to maintain the project. I don't think
>>  anybody "ran away", it was a case of those who were doing the work
>>  should be the ones paid for it.
>> 
>>  Tim
>> 
>>  On 27 April 2016 at 06:26, Mathayo Josephat 
>>  wrote:
>>  > ELCT in Tanzania used care2x and managed to implement some of the
>>  > hospitals,
>>  > although sustainability was a challenge because of the developers
>>  > running
>>  > away from the project.
>>  >
>>  > Challenge of integration care2x and accounting system, let us try
>>  > to
>>  > fix the
>>  > existing bugs then consultancy work will be there. Hopefully even
>>  > other
>>  > Country like Malawi, Namibia etc used it
>>  >
>>  > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Schofield
>>  >  wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> Hi David,
>>  >>
>>  >> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
>>  >> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to
>>  >> have
>>  >> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x
>>  >> have
>>  >> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
>>  >>
>>  >> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
>>  >>
>>  >> Tim
>>  >>
>>  >> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q.
>>  >> 
>>  >> wrote:
>>  >> > Hey,
>>  >> >
>>  >> > I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may
>>  >> > take
>>  >> > more
>>  >> > time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up
>>  >> > to
>>  >> > date
>>  >> > and
>>  >> > have it become maintainable again. There have been some
>>  >> > discussions
>>  >> > in
>>  >> > the
>>  >> > past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right
>>  >> > now
>>  >> > I
>>  >> > don't
>>  >> > have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a
>>  >> > week
>>  >> > to
>>  >> > this
>>  >> > (maybe 4).
>>  >> >
>>  >> > If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it
>>  >> > will
>>  >> > just
>>  >> > be a
>>  >> > pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is
>>  >> > an
>>  >> > issue
>>  >> > (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the
>>  >> > funds to
>>  >> > be
>>  >> > 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Ah sorry. The branch we are using is the 2.7 branch
https://github.com/care2x/2.7

This branch is one that I know is in use in many hospitals which is
important for hospitals to upgrade, and it is the only one being
actively developed.

Thanks
Tim

On 28 April 2016 at 08:53, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
> The codebase we're using.  If we use TZ version,  that's the base branch,
> everyone should clone that branch work on it and then request you (or
> somebody responsible)  reviews and merges the changes into the original
> code.
>
> I'd suggest that we also send a Screenshot of the problem fixed,  so we know
> we have tested code and not just another bug to close.
>
> On Apr 28, 2016 9:48 AM, "Tim Schofield" 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David sorry if I am being a bit thick what do you mean by baseline?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Course View Towers,
>> Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
>> Kampala
>> T +256 (0) 312 314 418
>> M +256 (0) 752 963 325
>> www.weberpafrica.com
>> Twitter: @TimSchofield2
>> Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk
>>
>> On 27 Apr 2016 13:02, "David Sarmiento Q."  wrote:
>>>
>>> Which baseline are we using?
>>>
>>> On Apr 27, 2016 10:48, "Tim Schofield" 
>>> wrote:

 I think that there were a few issues that arise from the ELCT project
 that we can learn from moving forward.

 Firstly they used a non standard version of care2x which meant that
 any bug fixes etc applied to the main version weren't always included
 in their version. I think it is very important to try and unite around
 the one code base. The fragmentation that occurred before helps nobody
 in the long run.

 Secondly there was an unwillingness from the ELCT to share the
 consultancy fees they were earning from the hospitals with the
 developers whom they wanted to maintain the project. I don't think
 anybody "ran away", it was a case of those who were doing the work
 should be the ones paid for it.

 Tim

 On 27 April 2016 at 06:26, Mathayo Josephat  wrote:
 > ELCT in Tanzania used care2x and managed to implement some of the
 > hospitals,
 > although sustainability was a challenge because of the developers
 > running
 > away from the project.
 >
 > Challenge of integration care2x and accounting system, let us try to
 > fix the
 > existing bugs then consultancy work will be there. Hopefully even
 > other
 > Country like Malawi, Namibia etc used it
 >
 > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Schofield
 >  wrote:
 >>
 >> Hi David,
 >>
 >> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
 >> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
 >> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
 >> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
 >>
 >> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
 >>
 >> Tim
 >>
 >> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q. 
 >> wrote:
 >> > Hey,
 >> >
 >> > I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take
 >> > more
 >> > time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to
 >> > date
 >> > and
 >> > have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions
 >> > in
 >> > the
 >> > past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now
 >> > I
 >> > don't
 >> > have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week
 >> > to
 >> > this
 >> > (maybe 4).
 >> >
 >> > If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will
 >> > just
 >> > be a
 >> > pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an
 >> > issue
 >> > (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the
 >> > funds to
 >> > be
 >> > able to commit to this project?
 >> >
 >> > David
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield"
 >> > 
 >> > wrote:
 >> >>
 >> >> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
 >> >> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
 >> >>
 >> >> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
 >> >> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is
 >> >> bound
 >> >> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in
 >> >> a
 >> >> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
 >> >>
 >> >> Tim
 >> >>
 >> >> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield
 >> >> 
 >> >> wrote:
 >> >> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Hi David sorry if I am being a bit thick what do you mean by baseline?

Tim

Course View Towers,
Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
Kampala
T +256 (0) 312 314 418
M +256 (0) 752 963 325
www.weberpafrica.com
Twitter: @TimSchofield2
Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk
On 27 Apr 2016 13:02, "David Sarmiento Q."  wrote:

> Which baseline are we using?
> On Apr 27, 2016 10:48, "Tim Schofield" 
> wrote:
>
>> I think that there were a few issues that arise from the ELCT project
>> that we can learn from moving forward.
>>
>> Firstly they used a non standard version of care2x which meant that
>> any bug fixes etc applied to the main version weren't always included
>> in their version. I think it is very important to try and unite around
>> the one code base. The fragmentation that occurred before helps nobody
>> in the long run.
>>
>> Secondly there was an unwillingness from the ELCT to share the
>> consultancy fees they were earning from the hospitals with the
>> developers whom they wanted to maintain the project. I don't think
>> anybody "ran away", it was a case of those who were doing the work
>> should be the ones paid for it.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 27 April 2016 at 06:26, Mathayo Josephat  wrote:
>> > ELCT in Tanzania used care2x and managed to implement some of the
>> hospitals,
>> > although sustainability was a challenge because of the developers
>> running
>> > away from the project.
>> >
>> > Challenge of integration care2x and accounting system, let us try to
>> fix the
>> > existing bugs then consultancy work will be there. Hopefully even other
>> > Country like Malawi, Namibia etc used it
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Schofield
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi David,
>> >>
>> >> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
>> >> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
>> >> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
>> >> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
>> >>
>> >> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hey,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take
>> more
>> >> > time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to
>> date
>> >> > and
>> >> > have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions
>> in
>> >> > the
>> >> > past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to
>> >> > this
>> >> > (maybe 4).
>> >> >
>> >> > If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will
>> just
>> >> > be a
>> >> > pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an
>> >> > issue
>> >> > (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds
>> to
>> >> > be
>> >> > able to commit to this project?
>> >> >
>> >> > David
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield" 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
>> >> >> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
>> >> >> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is
>> bound
>> >> >> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
>> >> >> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tim
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield <
>> tim.schofield1...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
>> >> >> > people are probably fed up :).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP
>> >> >> > 7.0
>> >> >> > by default (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
>> >> >> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes
>> others
>> >> >> > will follow.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
>> >> >> > whether there is the will to do this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > Tim
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>> >> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hi!
>> >> >> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I
>> >> >> >> found
>> >> >> >> a lot
>> >> >> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
>> >> >> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
>> >> >> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake
>> >> >> >> up.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield
>> >> >> >> 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

I think that there were a few issues that arise from the ELCT project
that we can learn from moving forward.

Firstly they used a non standard version of care2x which meant that
any bug fixes etc applied to the main version weren't always included
in their version. I think it is very important to try and unite around
the one code base. The fragmentation that occurred before helps nobody
in the long run.

Secondly there was an unwillingness from the ELCT to share the
consultancy fees they were earning from the hospitals with the
developers whom they wanted to maintain the project. I don't think
anybody "ran away", it was a case of those who were doing the work
should be the ones paid for it.

Tim

On 27 April 2016 at 06:26, Mathayo Josephat  wrote:
> ELCT in Tanzania used care2x and managed to implement some of the hospitals,
> although sustainability was a challenge because of the developers running
> away from the project.
>
> Challenge of integration care2x and accounting system, let us try to fix the
> existing bugs then consultancy work will be there. Hopefully even other
> Country like Malawi, Namibia etc used it
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Schofield
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
>> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
>> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
>> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
>>
>> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> >
>> > I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
>> > time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date
>> > and
>> > have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in
>> > the
>> > past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I
>> > don't
>> > have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to
>> > this
>> > (maybe 4).
>> >
>> > If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just
>> > be a
>> > pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an
>> > issue
>> > (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds to
>> > be
>> > able to commit to this project?
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield" 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
>> >> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>> >>
>> >> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
>> >> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
>> >> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
>> >> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
>> >> > people are probably fed up :).
>> >> >
>> >> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP
>> >> > 7.0
>> >> > by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
>> >> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
>> >> > will follow.
>> >> >
>> >> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
>> >> > whether there is the will to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Tim
>> >> >
>> >> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi!
>> >> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I
>> >> >> found
>> >> >> a lot
>> >> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
>> >> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
>> >> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake
>> >> >> up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield
>> >> >> :
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6
>> >> >>> as a
>> >> >>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>> >> >>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work
>> >> >>> as
>> >> >>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>> >> >>> entirely.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>> Tim
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Hi Tim,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in
>> >> >>> > PHP
>> >> >>> > 7.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Best,
>> >> >>> > Israel.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>> >> >>> > 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Thanks David, I have added your note about closing the issue to the wiki page.

Tim

On 27 April 2016 at 06:38, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
> I guess I can throw some time at it on Sunday,  at least a couple of hours.
>
> Everybody working on this : please remember to close the issue when it's
> done.
>
> On Apr 26, 2016 3:37 PM, "Tim Schofield" 
> wrote:
>>
>> I have started listing issues that need looking at [1] marking them up
>> as 'Help Wanted'.
>>
>> I have written a short piece on the wiki [2]
>>
>> Please select an issue you want to work on, assign it to yourself (you
>> may need to ask me to do that for you) and get going :)
>>
>> I will add more issues as we go.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/care2x/2.7/issues
>> [2] https://github.com/care2x/2.7/wiki
>>
>> On 25 April 2016 at 10:06, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> wrote:
>> > Ok.  So Tim, it looks like you already started looking at code, do you
>> > think
>> > you could make a list of where the errors and warnings are, so we can
>> > get a
>> > list of stuff to do and split it among us?
>> >
>> > On Apr 25, 2016 10:59 AM, "Tim Schofield" 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree 100%.
>> >>
>> >> "First make it work then make it better"
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 25 April 2016 at 09:53, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > Sure, it makes sense to make sure what we have works before we lose
>> >> > even
>> >> > the
>> >> > few clients who are our champions once they know we are still active.
>> >> > Then
>> >> > it makes sense to improve the code, because, right now, it's a
>> >> > nightmare
>> >> > to
>> >> > find where something is and you can't really tell what does what and
>> >> > how.
>> >> > __It totally is a mess__ but we should keep it moving while we do the
>> >> > repairs.
>> >> > I started keeping an eye on Care2x since 2012, until now I hadn't
>> >> > gotten
>> >> > something that was working right away. You have to write a couple
>> >> > grep
>> >> > statements when trying to fix things.
>> >> > Maybe Tanzanian folks who are actively deploying Care2x would chime
>> >> > in
>> >> > and
>> >> > give Care2x a boost from whatever they have developed and fixed.
>> >> > Tim and I have been working together recently and I hope we continue,
>> >> > I
>> >> > would also call upon everyone that as long as there's no funding, let
>> >> > everyone of us commit sometime to look at Care2x and do something,
>> >> > then
>> >> > we
>> >> > can move. The rest (new clients, funding, etc) will always come when
>> >> > it's
>> >> > their time to come.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016-04-25 11:11 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield
>> >> > :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
>> >> >> medium for getting a sentiment across :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My
>> >> >> first
>> >> >> contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
>> >> >> years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
>> >> >> was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
>> >> >> hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is
>> >> >> dead.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
>> >> >> could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
>> >> >> the current code working and polished and then we can start looking
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Tim
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly
>> >> >> > written,
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > think that every bit of work that gets into the project is
>> >> >> > extremely
>> >> >> > valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour
>> >> >> > intensive.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to
>> >> >> > design
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > coding
>> >> >> > standards that will allow for to be maintained.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with
>> >> >> > Applications
>> >> >> > Manager
>> >> >> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into
>> >> >> > multiple
>> >> >> > tiers
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > your business applications. It resolves application problems
>> >> >> > quickly
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
>> >> >> > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Mathayo Josephat]

ELCT in Tanzania used care2x and managed to implement some of the
hospitals, although sustainability was a challenge because of the
developers running away from the project.

Challenge of integration care2x and accounting system, let us try to fix
the existing bugs then consultancy work will be there. Hopefully even other
Country like Malawi, Namibia etc used it

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Schofield  wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
>
> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
>
> Tim
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q. 
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
> > time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date
> and
> > have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in
> the
> > past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I
> don't
> > have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to this
> > (maybe 4).
> >
> > If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just
> be a
> > pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an issue
> > (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds to
> be
> > able to commit to this project?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
> >> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
> >>
> >> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
> >> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
> >> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
> >> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
> >> > people are probably fed up :).
> >> >
> >> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
> >> > by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
> >> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
> >> > will follow.
> >> >
> >> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
> >> > whether there is the will to do this?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Hi!
> >> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I
> found
> >> >> a lot
> >> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
> >> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
> >> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield <
> tim.schofield1...@gmail.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6
> as a
> >> >>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
> >> >>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work
> as
> >> >>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
> >> >>> entirely.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> Tim
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > Hi Tim,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in
> PHP
> >> >>> > 7.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Best,
> >> >>> > Israel.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
> >> >>> >  wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
> >> >>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >> >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> >>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
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> >> >>> >>
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> specific
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> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Today's Topics:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
> >> >>> >>2. Re: 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

I have started listing issues that need looking at [1] marking them up
as 'Help Wanted'.

I have written a short piece on the wiki [2]

Please select an issue you want to work on, assign it to yourself (you
may need to ask me to do that for you) and get going :)

I will add more issues as we go.

Thanks
Tim

[1] https://github.com/care2x/2.7/issues
[2] https://github.com/care2x/2.7/wiki

On 25 April 2016 at 10:06, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
> Ok.  So Tim, it looks like you already started looking at code, do you think
> you could make a list of where the errors and warnings are, so we can get a
> list of stuff to do and split it among us?
>
> On Apr 25, 2016 10:59 AM, "Tim Schofield" 
> wrote:
>>
>> Agree 100%.
>>
>> "First make it work then make it better"
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 25 April 2016 at 09:53, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>>  wrote:
>> > Sure, it makes sense to make sure what we have works before we lose even
>> > the
>> > few clients who are our champions once they know we are still active.
>> > Then
>> > it makes sense to improve the code, because, right now, it's a nightmare
>> > to
>> > find where something is and you can't really tell what does what and
>> > how.
>> > __It totally is a mess__ but we should keep it moving while we do the
>> > repairs.
>> > I started keeping an eye on Care2x since 2012, until now I hadn't gotten
>> > something that was working right away. You have to write a couple grep
>> > statements when trying to fix things.
>> > Maybe Tanzanian folks who are actively deploying Care2x would chime in
>> > and
>> > give Care2x a boost from whatever they have developed and fixed.
>> > Tim and I have been working together recently and I hope we continue, I
>> > would also call upon everyone that as long as there's no funding, let
>> > everyone of us commit sometime to look at Care2x and do something, then
>> > we
>> > can move. The rest (new clients, funding, etc) will always come when
>> > it's
>> > their time to come.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > 2016-04-25 11:11 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>> >>
>> >> Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
>> >> medium for getting a sentiment across :)
>> >>
>> >> Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My first
>> >> contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
>> >> years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
>> >> was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
>> >> hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is dead.
>> >>
>> >> I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
>> >> could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
>> >> the current code working and polished and then we can start looking at
>> >> improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly
>> >> > written,
>> >> > I
>> >> > think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
>> >> > valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour
>> >> > intensive.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to
>> >> > design
>> >> > it
>> >> > again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and
>> >> > coding
>> >> > standards that will allow for to be maintained.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
>> >> > Manager
>> >> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
>> >> > tiers
>> >> > of
>> >> > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly
>> >> > and
>> >> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
>> >> > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
>> >> > ___
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>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Manager
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>> >> tiers of
>> >> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly
>> >> and
>> >> reduces your MTTR. Get your 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Most open source projects survive fine without direct funding of
developers. In fact that kind of direct funding can be a curse as it
discourages any voluntary developers and then when the funding dries
up so does the development.

My experience is that there are plenty of hospitals/health ministries
prepared to pay for consultancy during implementation, and for ongoing
support. It is just a question of marketing it in the areas where it
is best suited.

The problem is that not only have we not marketed it well, we have
actively discouraged people from using it by giving the impression the
project is dead.

If we build it they will come :)

Tim

On 25 April 2016 at 19:59, Elpidio  wrote:
> It is kind of catch 22. No one funds it coz it is "dead" and it can't revive 
> coz no one funds it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Tim Schofield  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
>> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
>> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
>> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
>>
>> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
>>> time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date and
>>> have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in the
>>> past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I don't
>>> have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to this
>>> (maybe 4).
>>>
>>> If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just be a
>>> pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an issue
>>> (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds to  be
>>> able to commit to this project?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield"  wrote:

 I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
 branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.

 There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
 haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
 to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
 weekend we can resuscitate care2x.

 Tim

 On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
 wrote:
> I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
> people are probably fed up :).
>
> We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
> by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
> ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
> will follow.
>
> To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
> whether there is the will to do this?
>
> Thanks
> Tim
>
> On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found
>> a lot
>> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
>> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
>> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>>>
>>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
>>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
>>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>>> entirely.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
>>> wrote:
 Hi Tim,

 Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP
 7.



 Best,
 Israel.

 On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
  wrote:
>
> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
>care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Elpidio]

It is kind of catch 22. No one funds it coz it is "dead" and it can't revive 
coz no one funds it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:10 AM, Tim Schofield  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
> showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
> an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
> all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.
> 
> It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
>> time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date and
>> have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in the
>> past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I don't
>> have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to this
>> (maybe 4).
>> 
>> If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just be a
>> pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an issue
>> (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds to  be
>> able to commit to this project?
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
>>> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>>> 
>>> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
>>> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
>>> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
>>> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
>>> wrote:
 I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
 people are probably fed up :).
 
 We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
 by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
 ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
 will follow.
 
 To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
 whether there is the will to do this?
 
 Thanks
 Tim
 
 On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
  wrote:
> Hi!
> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found
> a lot
> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>> 
>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>> entirely.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>> 
>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP
>>> 7.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Israel.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>>>  wrote:
 
 Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
 
 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
 
 You can reach the person managing the list at
care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
 
 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
 than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
 
 
 Today's Topics:
 
   1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
   2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
   3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
  (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
   4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
  (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
 
 
 
 --
 
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 Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Hi David, I will write something on the github wiki site and post a link here.

Basically every page has a custom error_reporting() level set to hide
any warnings and notices, some of which are inconsequential, some of
which are obscuring real errors. My next plan is to remove all these
and create one entry (probably in inc_init_main.php) which can then be
altered depending on whether the code is for development or
production. I prefer to develop with error_reporting set to -1 which
shows absolutely everything, and ensures I don't miss anything.

Thanks
Tim

On 25 April 2016 at 10:06, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
> Ok.  So Tim, it looks like you already started looking at code, do you think
> you could make a list of where the errors and warnings are, so we can get a
> list of stuff to do and split it among us?
>
> On Apr 25, 2016 10:59 AM, "Tim Schofield" 
> wrote:
>>
>> Agree 100%.
>>
>> "First make it work then make it better"
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 25 April 2016 at 09:53, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>>  wrote:
>> > Sure, it makes sense to make sure what we have works before we lose even
>> > the
>> > few clients who are our champions once they know we are still active.
>> > Then
>> > it makes sense to improve the code, because, right now, it's a nightmare
>> > to
>> > find where something is and you can't really tell what does what and
>> > how.
>> > __It totally is a mess__ but we should keep it moving while we do the
>> > repairs.
>> > I started keeping an eye on Care2x since 2012, until now I hadn't gotten
>> > something that was working right away. You have to write a couple grep
>> > statements when trying to fix things.
>> > Maybe Tanzanian folks who are actively deploying Care2x would chime in
>> > and
>> > give Care2x a boost from whatever they have developed and fixed.
>> > Tim and I have been working together recently and I hope we continue, I
>> > would also call upon everyone that as long as there's no funding, let
>> > everyone of us commit sometime to look at Care2x and do something, then
>> > we
>> > can move. The rest (new clients, funding, etc) will always come when
>> > it's
>> > their time to come.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > 2016-04-25 11:11 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>> >>
>> >> Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
>> >> medium for getting a sentiment across :)
>> >>
>> >> Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My first
>> >> contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
>> >> years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
>> >> was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
>> >> hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is dead.
>> >>
>> >> I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
>> >> could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
>> >> the current code working and polished and then we can start looking at
>> >> improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly
>> >> > written,
>> >> > I
>> >> > think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
>> >> > valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour
>> >> > intensive.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to
>> >> > design
>> >> > it
>> >> > again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and
>> >> > coding
>> >> > standards that will allow for to be maintained.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
>> >> > Manager
>> >> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
>> >> > tiers
>> >> > of
>> >> > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly
>> >> > and
>> >> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
>> >> > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
>> >> > ___
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>> >> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
>> >> Kampala
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>> >> M +256 (0) 752 963 325
>> >> www.weberpafrica.com
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>> >>
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Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[David Sarmiento Q.]

Ok.  So Tim, it looks like you already started looking at code, do you
think you could make a list of where the errors and warnings are, so we can
get a list of stuff to do and split it among us?
On Apr 25, 2016 10:59 AM, "Tim Schofield" 
wrote:

> Agree 100%.
>
> "First make it work then make it better"
>
> Tim
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 09:53, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>  wrote:
> > Sure, it makes sense to make sure what we have works before we lose even
> the
> > few clients who are our champions once they know we are still active.
> Then
> > it makes sense to improve the code, because, right now, it's a nightmare
> to
> > find where something is and you can't really tell what does what and how.
> > __It totally is a mess__ but we should keep it moving while we do the
> > repairs.
> > I started keeping an eye on Care2x since 2012, until now I hadn't gotten
> > something that was working right away. You have to write a couple grep
> > statements when trying to fix things.
> > Maybe Tanzanian folks who are actively deploying Care2x would chime in
> and
> > give Care2x a boost from whatever they have developed and fixed.
> > Tim and I have been working together recently and I hope we continue, I
> > would also call upon everyone that as long as there's no funding, let
> > everyone of us commit sometime to look at Care2x and do something, then
> we
> > can move. The rest (new clients, funding, etc) will always come when it's
> > their time to come.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > 2016-04-25 11:11 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
> >>
> >> Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
> >> medium for getting a sentiment across :)
> >>
> >> Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My first
> >> contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
> >> years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
> >> was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
> >> hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is dead.
> >>
> >> I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
> >> could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
> >> the current code working and polished and then we can start looking at
> >> improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q. 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly
> written,
> >> > I
> >> > think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
> >> > valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour intensive.
> >> >
> >> > I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to
> design
> >> > it
> >> > again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and
> >> > coding
> >> > standards that will allow for to be maintained.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> --
> >> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
> >> > Manager
> >> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
> >> > tiers
> >> > of
> >> > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly
> and
> >> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
> >> > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
> >> > ___
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> >> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Course View Towers,
> >> Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
> >> Kampala
> >> T   +256 (0) 312 314 418
> >> M +256 (0) 752 963 325
> >> www.weberpafrica.com
> >> Twitter: @TimSchofield2
> >> Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --
> >> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
> >> Manager
> >> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
> >> tiers of
> >> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> >> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
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> >> ___
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> >> Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
> >
> >
> >
> > --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
> >
> >
> --
> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
> Manager
> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Agree 100%.

"First make it work then make it better"

Tim

On 25 April 2016 at 09:53, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
 wrote:
> Sure, it makes sense to make sure what we have works before we lose even the
> few clients who are our champions once they know we are still active. Then
> it makes sense to improve the code, because, right now, it's a nightmare to
> find where something is and you can't really tell what does what and how.
> __It totally is a mess__ but we should keep it moving while we do the
> repairs.
> I started keeping an eye on Care2x since 2012, until now I hadn't gotten
> something that was working right away. You have to write a couple grep
> statements when trying to fix things.
> Maybe Tanzanian folks who are actively deploying Care2x would chime in and
> give Care2x a boost from whatever they have developed and fixed.
> Tim and I have been working together recently and I hope we continue, I
> would also call upon everyone that as long as there's no funding, let
> everyone of us commit sometime to look at Care2x and do something, then we
> can move. The rest (new clients, funding, etc) will always come when it's
> their time to come.
>
> Cheers
>
> 2016-04-25 11:11 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>>
>> Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
>> medium for getting a sentiment across :)
>>
>> Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My first
>> contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
>> years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
>> was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
>> hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is dead.
>>
>> I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
>> could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
>> the current code working and polished and then we can start looking at
>> improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>> On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q. 
>> wrote:
>> > Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly written,
>> > I
>> > think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
>> > valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour intensive.
>> >
>> > I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to design
>> > it
>> > again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and
>> > coding
>> > standards that will allow for to be maintained.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
>> > Manager
>> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
>> > tiers
>> > of
>> > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
>> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
>> > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
>> > ___
>> > Care2002-developers mailing list
>> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Course View Towers,
>> Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
>> Kampala
>> T   +256 (0) 312 314 418
>> M +256 (0) 752 963 325
>> www.weberpafrica.com
>> Twitter: @TimSchofield2
>> Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
>> Manager
>> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
>> tiers of
>> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
>> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
>> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
>> ___
>> Care2002-developers mailing list
>> Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>
>
>
>
> --
> :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
>
>
>
> --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
>
> --
> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager
> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers
> of
> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
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> ___
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>



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Kampala
T   +256 (0) 312 314 418
M +256 (0) 752 963 325

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Sovello Hildebrand Mgani]

Sure, it makes sense to make sure what we have works before we lose even
the few clients who are our champions once they know we are still active.
Then it makes sense to improve the code, because, right now, it's a
nightmare to find where something is and you can't really tell what does
what and how. __It totally is a mess__ but we should keep it moving while
we do the repairs.
I started keeping an eye on Care2x since 2012, until now I hadn't gotten
something that was working right away. You have to write a couple grep
statements when trying to fix things.
Maybe Tanzanian folks who are actively deploying Care2x would chime in and
give Care2x a boost from whatever they have developed and fixed.
Tim and I have been working together recently and I hope we continue, I
would also call upon everyone that as long as there's no funding, let
everyone of us commit sometime to look at Care2x and do something, then we
can move. The rest (new clients, funding, etc) will always come when it's
their time to come.

Cheers

2016-04-25 11:11 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :

> Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
> medium for getting a sentiment across :)
>
> Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My first
> contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
> years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
> was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
> hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is dead.
>
> I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
> could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
> the current code working and polished and then we can start looking at
> improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.
>
> Thanks
> Tim
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q. 
> wrote:
> > Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly
> written,  I
> > think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
> > valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour intensive.
> >
> > I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to design
> it
> > again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and
> coding
> > standards that will allow for to be maintained.
> >
> >
> >
> --
> > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
> Manager
> > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
> tiers
> > of
> > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
> > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
> > ___
> > Care2002-developers mailing list
> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Course View Towers,
> Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road,
> Kampala
> T   +256 (0) 312 314 418
> M +256 (0) 752 963 325
> www.weberpafrica.com
> Twitter: @TimSchofield2
> Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/
>
>
> --
> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications
> Manager
> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple
> tiers of
> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
> ___
> Care2002-developers mailing list
> Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>



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Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Hi David, I wasn't taking offence, email can be such a difficult
medium for getting a sentiment across :)

Re-writing care2x has been discussed for well over a decade. My first
contribution to the project was an email on the subject nearly ten
years ago and it was considered a very old topic then. I think if it
was going to happen it would have happened. Meanwhile I hear of
hospitals moving from care2x because they believe the project is dead.

I know the African market well, and I strongly believe that care2x
could play a big part in it. However the first step has to be to get
the current code working and polished and then we can start looking at
improving that code to make it more easily maintainable.

Thanks
Tim

On 25 April 2016 at 08:38, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
> Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly written,  I
> think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
> valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour intensive.
>
> I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to design it
> again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and coding
> standards that will allow for to be maintained.
>
>
> --
> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager
> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers
> of
> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and
> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial!
> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z
> ___
> Care2002-developers mailing list
> Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>



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M +256 (0) 752 963 325
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Twitter: @TimSchofield2
Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[David Sarmiento Q.]

Tim, I meant no disrespect , I'm sorry if my message was poorly written,  I
think that every bit of work that gets into the project is extremely
valuable. I just wanted to state my proposal will be labour intensive.

I just think that for care 2x to be viable once again we need to design it
again, make sure the features are there but with an architecture and coding
standards that will allow for to be maintained.
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Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Hi David,

I wasn't pretending that doing it in a weekend was enough, but it
showed that we can get it working. The way to get funding is to have
an active vibrant project, my attempts to get funding for care2x have
all fallen at the "care2x is dead why fund it" stage.

It would be great to have your help on what we are doing.

Tim

On 25 April 2016 at 07:06, David Sarmiento Q.  wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
> time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date and
> have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in the
> past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I don't
> have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to this
> (maybe 4).
>
> If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just be a
> pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an issue
> (and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds to  be
> able to commit to this project?
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield"  wrote:
>>
>> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
>> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>>
>> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
>> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
>> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
>> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
>> wrote:
>> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
>> > people are probably fed up :).
>> >
>> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
>> > by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
>> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
>> > will follow.
>> >
>> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
>> > whether there is the will to do this?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Hi!
>> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found
>> >> a lot
>> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
>> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
>> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
>> >>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>> >>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
>> >>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>> >>> entirely.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi Tim,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP
>> >>> > 7.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Best,
>> >>> > Israel.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>> >>> >  wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
>> >>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> >>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> >>> >> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> >>> >> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
>> >>> >>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
>> >>> >>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>> >>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>> >>> >>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>> >>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Message: 1
>> >>> >> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
>> >>> >> From: Robert Meggle 
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
>> >>> >> care2x
>> >>> >> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>> >> Message-ID: 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[David Sarmiento Q.]

Hey,

I'm more inclined to make it work by 'doing it right ', it may take more
time than a weekend but I believe the only way to bring this up to date and
have it become maintainable again. There have been some discussions in the
past about the how but they kinda dissolved on their own. Right now I don't
have that much time but I'm willing to commit a some hours a week to this
(maybe 4).

If we're going to do this, we need to be coordinated, else it will just be
a pile of good intentions instead of great software. If funding is an issue
(and I think it is), maybe a kickstarter could help us get the funds to  be
able to commit to this project?

David



On Apr 24, 2016 22:20, "Tim Schofield"  wrote:

> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>
> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>
> Tim
>
> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
> wrote:
> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
> > people are probably fed up :).
> >
> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
> > by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
> > will follow.
> >
> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
> > whether there is the will to do this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tim
> >
> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found
> a lot
> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
> >>>
> >>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
> >>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
> >>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
> >>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
> >>> entirely.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
> wrote:
> >>> > Hi Tim,
> >>> >
> >>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP
> 7.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Best,
> >>> > Israel.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
> >>> >  wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
> >>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >>> >>
> >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >>> >> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >>> >> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Today's Topics:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
> >>> >>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
> >>> >>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
> >>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
> >>> >>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
> >>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> --
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Message: 1
> >>> >> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
> >>> >> From: Robert Meggle 
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
> >>> >> care2x
> >>> >> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >> Message-ID: <1457012993.4194.36.camel@mero>
> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hello,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
> >>> >> developer.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
> >>> >> branch (also called "east african branch")?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Robert
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
> >>> >> > Hi all,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and
> was
> >>> >> > wondering how are pages 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Sovello Hildebrand Mgani]

Sure Tim,
I think am into it 100%.
I have been a bit busy but will start giving small shots whenever I get a
time slot.

Thank you!
On Apr 24, 2016 11:20 PM, "Tim Schofield" 
wrote:

> I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
> branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.
>
> There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
> haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
> to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
> weekend we can resuscitate care2x.
>
> Tim
>
> On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield 
> wrote:
> > I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
> > people are probably fed up :).
> >
> > We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
> > by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
> > ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
> > will follow.
> >
> > To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
> > whether there is the will to do this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tim
> >
> > On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found
> a lot
> >> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
> >> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
> >> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
> >>>
> >>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
> >>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
> >>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
> >>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
> >>> entirely.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal 
> wrote:
> >>> > Hi Tim,
> >>> >
> >>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP
> 7.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Best,
> >>> > Israel.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
> >>> >  wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
> >>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >>> >>
> >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >>> >> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >>> >> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Today's Topics:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
> >>> >>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
> >>> >>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
> >>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
> >>> >>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
> >>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> --
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Message: 1
> >>> >> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
> >>> >> From: Robert Meggle 
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
> >>> >> care2x
> >>> >> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> >> Message-ID: <1457012993.4194.36.camel@mero>
> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hello,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
> >>> >> developer.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
> >>> >> branch (also called "east african branch")?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Robert
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
> >>> >> > Hi all,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and
> was
> >>> >> > wondering how are pages being built. Take a case where I want to
> add
> >>> >> > a
> >>> >> > new module which will entail adding a new menu item, and its
> >>> >> > associated pages.
> >>> >> > Any pointers around this will be much appreciated
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Cheers
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

I have spent the weekend hacking away on this and have got the 2.7
branch (https://github.com/care2x/2.7) sort of working on PHP 7.0.

There are a ton of warnings and notices that need looking at and I
haven't checked anything like all the functionality so there is bound
to be more broken stuff, but it does work, and if I can do this in a
weekend we can resuscitate care2x.

Tim

On 22 April 2016 at 08:58, Tim Schofield  wrote:
> I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
> people are probably fed up :).
>
> We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
> by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
> ) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
> will follow.
>
> To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
> whether there is the will to do this?
>
> Thanks
> Tim
>
> On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
>  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found a lot
>> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
>> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
>> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>>>
>>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
>>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
>>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>>> entirely.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal  wrote:
>>> > Hi Tim,
>>> >
>>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP 7.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Israel.
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
>>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> >>
>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>> >>
>>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> >>
>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>> >> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> >>
>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Today's Topics:
>>> >>
>>> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
>>> >>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
>>> >>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>>> >>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> Message: 1
>>> >> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
>>> >> From: Robert Meggle 
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
>>> >> care2x
>>> >> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> >> Message-ID: <1457012993.4194.36.camel@mero>
>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
>>> >> developer.
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
>>> >> branch (also called "east african branch")?
>>> >>
>>> >> Robert
>>> >>
>>> >> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
>>> >> > Hi all,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and was
>>> >> > wondering how are pages being built. Take a case where I want to add
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > new module which will entail adding a new menu item, and its
>>> >> > associated pages.
>>> >> > Any pointers around this will be much appreciated
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application
>>> >> > Performance
>>> >> > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
>>> >> > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
>>> >> > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
>>> >> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140
>>> >> > ___
>>> >> 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

I know I have been banging on about this for a long time now and
people are probably fed up :).

We now have a significant problem as Ubuntu 16.04 LTS includes PHP 7.0
by default ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.0
) and care2x is completely broken in PHP7. Where Ubuntu goes others
will follow.

To put this right requires a great deal of work. The question is
whether there is the will to do this?

Thanks
Tim

On 7 March 2016 at 07:11, Sovello Hildebrand Mgani
 wrote:
> Hi!
> Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found a lot
> of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
> And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
> Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.
>
> Cheers
>
> 2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :
>>
>> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
>> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
>> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
>> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
>> entirely.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal  wrote:
>> > Hi Tim,
>> >
>> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP 7.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Israel.
>> >
>> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
>> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>
>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> >>
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>
>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> >> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>
>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> >> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
>> >>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
>> >>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>> >>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
>> >> From: Robert Meggle 
>> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
>> >> care2x
>> >> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> Message-ID: <1457012993.4194.36.camel@mero>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
>> >> developer.
>> >>
>> >> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
>> >> branch (also called "east african branch")?
>> >>
>> >> Robert
>> >>
>> >> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and was
>> >> > wondering how are pages being built. Take a case where I want to add
>> >> > a
>> >> > new module which will entail adding a new menu item, and its
>> >> > associated pages.
>> >> > Any pointers around this will be much appreciated
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application
>> >> > Performance
>> >> > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
>> >> > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
>> >> > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
>> >> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140
>> >> > ___
>> >> > Care2002-developers mailing list
>> >> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> 
>> >> MEROTECH IT Engineering
>> >>
>> >> Robert Meggle
>> >> St.-Mang-Str. 8
>> >> 87616 Marktoberdorf
>> >>
>> >> Germany
>> >>
>> >> UstNr.: DE232073735
>> >> Tel: +49(0)8342 - 8956729
>> >> Fax: +49(0)8342 - 8956730
>> >> mailto:meg...@merotech.de
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Sovello Hildebrand Mgani]

Hi!
Very true, I am running PHP 5.5 and set error reporting to ON. I found a
lot of issues to fix (at least from the branch that I cloned).
And BTW, I got past the hitch I had come across earlier.
Thanks for your insights, and we can let this sleeping giant wake up.

Cheers

2016-03-06 18:43 GMT+03:00 Tim Schofield :

> Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
> lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
> error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
> a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
> entirely.
>
> Thanks
> Tim
>
> On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal  wrote:
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP 7.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Israel.
> >
> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
> >> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>
> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >>
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>
> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>
> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
> >>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
> >>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
> >>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
> >>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
> >> From: Robert Meggle 
> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
> >> care2x
> >> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Message-ID: <1457012993.4194.36.camel@mero>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
> >> developer.
> >>
> >> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
> >> branch (also called "east african branch")?
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and was
> >> > wondering how are pages being built. Take a case where I want to add a
> >> > new module which will entail adding a new menu item, and its
> >> > associated pages.
> >> > Any pointers around this will be much appreciated
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> --
> >> > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
> >> > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
> >> > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
> >> > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
> >> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140
> >> > ___
> >> > Care2002-developers mailing list
> >> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> >>
> >> --
> >> 
> >> MEROTECH IT Engineering
> >>
> >> Robert Meggle
> >> St.-Mang-Str. 8
> >> 87616 Marktoberdorf
> >>
> >> Germany
> >>
> >> UstNr.: DE232073735
> >> Tel: +49(0)8342 - 8956729
> >> Fax: +49(0)8342 - 8956730
> >> mailto:meg...@merotech.de
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 16:57:17 +
> >> From: Tim Schofield 
> >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
> >> care2x
> >> To: Care2x Developers 
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> 

Re: [Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Tim Schofield]

Hi Israel, I think you will find it only *appears* to work in 5.6 as a
lot of issues are being suppressed with the use of overly forgiving
error_reporting() settings in individual scripts. PHP 7 won't work as
a number of things deprecated in the 5 series have been removed
entirely.

Thanks
Tim

On 6 March 2016 at 14:52, Israel Pascal  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP 7.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Israel.
>
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016,
>  wrote:
>>
>> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
>> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> care2002-developers-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Care2002-developers digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
>>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
>>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
>> From: Robert Meggle 
>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
>> care2x
>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Message-ID: <1457012993.4194.36.camel@mero>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
>> developer.
>>
>> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
>> branch (also called "east african branch")?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and was
>> > wondering how are pages being built. Take a case where I want to add a
>> > new module which will entail adding a new menu item, and its
>> > associated pages.
>> > Any pointers around this will be much appreciated
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > :: Sovello Hildebrand Mgani ::
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --If you teach man to fish, you'll feed him a lifetime--
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance
>> > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month
>> > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now
>> > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
>> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140
>> > ___
>> > Care2002-developers mailing list
>> > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
>>
>> --
>> 
>> MEROTECH IT Engineering
>>
>> Robert Meggle
>> St.-Mang-Str. 8
>> 87616 Marktoberdorf
>>
>> Germany
>>
>> UstNr.: DE232073735
>> Tel: +49(0)8342 - 8956729
>> Fax: +49(0)8342 - 8956730
>> mailto:meg...@merotech.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 16:57:17 +
>> From: Tim Schofield 
>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
>> care2x
>> To: Care2x Developers 
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> 

[Care2002-developers] care2x and PHP 7

[Israel Pascal]

Hi Tim,

Care2x has been cleaned up, it works with PHP 5.6. Not tested in PHP 7.



Best,
Israel.

On Thursday, March 3, 2016, <
care2002-developers-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Send Care2002-developers mailing list submissions to
> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net 
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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>1. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Robert Meggle)
>2. Re: Support around page building for care2x (Tim Schofield)
>3. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
>4. Re: Support around page building for care2x
>   (Sovello Hildebrand Mgani)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:49:53 +0100
> From: Robert Meggle >
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
> care2x
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> Hello,
>
> seems to be a repro we do not know :) Maybe one of our users or any
> developer.
>
> Are you looking for the official branch of care2x or the tanzanian
> branch (also called "east african branch")?
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> Robert
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> Sovello Hildebrand Mgani:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > I have cloned the repo https://github.com/patmark/care2x-tz and was
> > wondering how are pages being built. Take a case where I want to add a
> > new module which will entail adding a new menu item, and its
> > associated pages.
> > Any pointers around this will be much appreciated
> >
> >
> > Cheers
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> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 16:57:17 +
> From: Tim Schofield >
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Support around page building for
> care2x
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