Hi Guillermo,

Thank you for the email. This is very useful information. I am glad the
additional documentation helped. CASPER is looking at porting the current
toolflow to Ubuntu 18.04LTS and it seems like you have already got that
working - well done. Of course, we would need to compile all hardware
platforms and make sure that they are still functional before we say Ubuntu
18.04 is good to go :).

Kind regards,

Adam Isaacson
South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO)
Hardware Manager
Cell: (+27) 825639602
Tel:  (+27) 215067300
email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za



On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:45 PM Guillermo Gancio <ganci...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi CasperAmigos,
>
> I want to thank you for sharing all this information that is extremely
> helpful, I was having  this problem for some time that I thought was
> due to my lack of experience, and it turns out that... it was due to
> my lack of experience but also for these configs...
> I did all the steps mentioned, on the following configuration and I
> was able to compile the SNAP tutorials. I couldn't test it on HW for
> now.
>
> Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS
> Matlab 2018a
> Xilinx vivado 2019.1.3
>
> I hope this information is a bit useful.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
> El vie, 29 ene 2021 a las 7:40, Adam Isaacson (<aisaac...@ska.ac.za>)
> escribió:
> >
> > Hi Casperites,
> >
> > Just some corrections from my previous email below - got the numpy
> version update incorrect:
> >
> > Okay, so it turns out that creating the virtual environment for python
> using "virtualen -p python3 <name_of_env>" does not work. This is what you
> need to do in order to create a successful virtual environment and get your
> designs to build. I tested it on a brand new virtual environment and it
> works. Thanks to Clifford van Wyk (Peralex), Morag Brown and Jack Hickish
> for their assistance. The docs will definitely need to be updated - we will
> add this to the agenda for the CASPER meeting.
> >
> > The following needs to be done if you want to generate a proper virtual
> environment that will build in the toolflow - Kaj, I recommend the below
> way:
> >
> > 1) Create the virtual environment: "python3 -m venv <some-venv-name>".
> The old way of using virtualenv -p python 3 <some-venv-name> just doesn't
> work. Thanks to Jack and Morag for pointing this out to me.
> > 2) Activate the environment: "source <some-venv-name>/bin/activate"
> > 3) Go to the mlib_devel directory and edit the requirements.txt file. It
> should have "numpy<1.19" (thanks for your sleuth work, Jack!). Now save the
> file.
> > 4) Go to mlib_devel directory and type exactly: "pip install -r
> requirements.txt". This will install without error or issues. if you check
> the site-packages in the virtual environment you will see what I mean - all
> the python packages will be installed properly in your virtual environment.
> > 5) You will need to edit line 32 of castro.py (located in the same
> folder as mlib_devel/jasper_library), so that it is "c = yaml.load(fh,
> Loader=yaml.Loader) . Refer to https://github.com/yaml/pyyaml/issues/266
> for more info on this version change issue. I tested the build with my
> original working virtualenv and the newly generated virtualenv and it works
> for both. Don't worry, I will be committing this change once I have done a
> bit more investigation - maybe adding versions in requirements.txt is not a
> bad idea for future support.
> >
> > You can now start your matlab session and build your designs :). Hooray!
> >
> > NB: I am now going to commit and do a pull request for casper-astro to
> review.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Adam Isaacson
> > South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO)
> > Hardware Manager
> > Cell: (+27) 825639602
> > Tel:  (+27) 215067300
> > email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 9:41 PM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Casperites,
> >>
> >> Okay, so it turns out that creating the virtual environment for python
> using "virtualen -p python3 <name_of_env>" does not work. This is what you
> need to do in order to create a successful virtual environment and get your
> designs to build. I tested it on a brand new virtual environment and it
> works. Thanks to Clifford van Wyk (Peralex), Morag Brown and Jack Hickish
> for their assistance. The docs will definitely need to be updated - we will
> add this to the agenda for the CASPER meeting.
> >>
> >> The following needs to be done if you want to generate a proper virtual
> environment that will build in the toolflow - Kaj, I recommend the below
> way:
> >>
> >> 1) Create the virtual environment: "python3 -m venv <some-venv-name>".
> The old way of using virtualenv -p python 3 <some-venv-name> just doesn't
> work. Thanks to Jack and Morag for pointing this out to me.
> >> 2) Activate the environment: "source <some-venv-name>/bin/activate"
> >> 3) Go to the mlib_devel directory and edit the requirements.txt file.
> It should have "numpy<1.9" (thanks for your sleuth work, Jack!). Now save
> the file.
> >> 3) Go to mlib_devel directory and type exactly: "pip install -r
> requirements.txt". This will install without error or issues. if you check
> the site-packages in the virtual environment you will see what I mean - all
> the python packages will be installed properly in your virtual environment.
> >> 4) You will need to edit line 32 of castro.py (located in the same
> folder as mlib_devel/jasper_library), so that it is "c = yaml.load(fh,
> Loader=yaml.Loader) . Refer to https://github.com/yaml/pyyaml/issues/266
> for more info on this version change issue. I tested the build with my
> original working virtualenv and the newly generated virtualenv and it works
> for both. Don't worry, I will be committing this change once I have done a
> bit more investigation - maybe adding versions in requirements.txt is not a
> bad idea for future support.
> >>
> >> You can now start your matlab session and build your designs :). Hooray!
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Adam Isaacson
> >> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO)
> >> Hardware Manager
> >> Cell: (+27) 825639602
> >> Tel:  (+27) 215067300
> >> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 9:55 AM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> Yes, it was a bit of a rabbit hole exercise, but we (between Kaj and
> Peralex) worked our way through it and now debugging other issues :).
> >>>
> >>> You raise a valid point. There is no reason we shouldn't port to
> Ubuntu 18.04LTS or higher. It makes sense with what Kaj and Peralex are
> experiencing.
> >>>
> >>> Please note, my team (SARAO) is baselining the SKARAB work at Ubuntu
> 16.04LTS. We are coming to the end of the MeerKAT development for the F and
> X engines. I do believe there are those that have got the toolflow to work
> on Ubuntu 18.04LTS. I know Wesley New has struggled to get the SKARAB
> toolflow to work using Ubuntu 18.04LTS. I haven't tried it on my side yet.
> >>>
> >>> My team's focus this year is to update the toolflow to work with Vitis
> and target those Alveo boards. This will definitely involve moving to a
> newer version of Ubuntu. For now that is likely to be Ubuntu 18.04LTS,
> Vitis 2020.2 and Vivado 2020.2.
> >>>
> >>> I think this is something we should discuss at the next CASPER meeting
> on the 11th Feb. We should allocate a resource for this, but SARAO is
> focusing on other areas for now.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your email :).
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Adam Isaacson
> >>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO)
> >>> Hardware Manager
> >>> Cell: (+27) 825639602
> >>> Tel:  (+27) 215067300
> >>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:09 AM David MacMahon <dav...@berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Wow, thanks for these truly awesome forensics, Adam!  It sounds like
> you went down a rabbit hole and lived to tell the tale.  I'm sure many of
> us will benefit from these details.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry if this is a FAQ, but what are the prospects for moving the
> tool flow beyond Ubuntu 16.04?  That release is really starting to show its
> age, especially since its stock Python3 is only 3.5.  (Though to be fair,
> Python is at least partly to blame due to its poor track record on version
> compatibility.  :P)
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 13:00, Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Kaj,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am including the CASPER community in this email thread as it
> applies to everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Interesting, so I have run into another person with the same
> virtualenv install issue that you encountered as shown in red below. I have
> been helping him debug too on a new machine and I am pleased to say that
> his virtualenv is now working. It seems like the new Ubuntu 16.04LTS
> installs come with a newer version of virtualenv which is not compatible
> with python 3.5 - fun, fun, fun. This definitely applies to all Casperites
> who are installing the toolflow on their new machines.
> >>>>
> >>>> kjwiik@casperx:~/work$ virtualenv -p python3 casper_venv
> >>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>>    File "/usr/local/bin/virtualenv", line 7, in <module>
> >>>>      from virtualenv.__main__ import run_with_catch
> >>>>    File
> "/home/kjwiik/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/virtualenv/__init__.py",
> line 3, in <module>
> >>>>      from .run import cli_run, session_via_cli
> >>>>    File
> "/home/kjwiik/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/virtualenv/run/__init__.py",
> line 13, in <module>
> >>>>      from .plugin.activators import ActivationSelector
> >>>>    File
> "/home/kjwiik/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/virtualenv/run/plugin/activators.py",
> line 6, in <module>
> >>>>      from .base import ComponentBuilder
> >>>>    File
> "/home/kjwiik/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/virtualenv/run/plugin/base.py",
> line 9, in <module>
> >>>>      from importlib_metadata import entry_points
> >>>>    File
> "/home/kjwiik/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/importlib_metadata/__init__.py",
> line 88
> >>>>      dist: Optional['Distribution'] = None
> >>>>          ^
> >>>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> >>>> kjwiik@casperx:~/work$
> >>>>
> >>>> I want you to check the following versions for me:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) virtualenv -> type "virtualenv --version" at the prompt. You
> should get 16.7.5. If not then you will need to uninstall the virtualenv by
> typing: "pip3 uninstall virtualenv" and then we will need to install the
> 16.7.5 version. To install an exact version then type: "pip3 install
> virtualenv==16.7.5". The use of "sudo" with "-H" arguments may or may not
> be needed. The installs will guide you.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) What is your Ubuntu 16.04LTS version? -> type "lsb_release -a". I
> am using Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS, Xenial.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) What is your pip3 version? -> type "pip3 --version". I am using
> pip 8.1.1.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4) What is your python version? -> type: "python --version". I am
> using python version 2.7.12
> >>>>
> >>>> 5) What is your python3 version? -> type: "python3 --version". I am
> using python3 version 3.5.2.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please make sure all these versions are the same before continuing. I
> suspect that the latest Ubuntu 16.04LTS installs have made some upgrades
> that are incompatible.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once these versions are as above then try the following step to
> create the virtual env:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Type: "virtualenv -p python3 <name_of_virtual_env>". This should
> create a folder with the same name as "name_of_virtual_env". There should
> be no issues with the install. It should complete without issues.
> >>>> 2) To activate the virtual environment -> type: "source
> <path_to_folder>/<name_of_virtual_env>/bin/activate
> >>>> 3) Once activated then you can deactivate it by typing "deactivate".
> >>>> 4) If the virtual environment is activated then if you type "python"
> you should get version 3.5.2
> >>>> 5) If the virtual environment is deactivated then if you type
> "python" you should get 2.7.12.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think if you can achieve this then you are ready to install the
> toolflow by following these steps:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1)
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Installing-the-Toolflow.html#
> >>>> 2)
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/How-to-install-Matlab.html
> >>>> 3)
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/How-to-install-Xilinx-Vivado.html
> >>>> 4)
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Configuring-the-Toolflow.html
> >>>> 5)
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Running-the-Toolflow.html
> >>>> 6)
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/projects/casperfpga/en/latest/
> (This is how to install casperfpga)
> >>>>
> >>>> @Jonathon Kocz : we will need to update the docs to reflect this new
> information. I will wait until both parties have working systems before
> updating the ReadtheDocs. One of the parties is using a proxy and has some
> additional information on how to install with a proxy that will be useful
> for other casperites.
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope this helps!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Adam Isaacson
> >>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO)
> >>>> Hardware Manager
> >>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602
> >>>> Tel:  (+27) 215067300
> >>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 8:09 PM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kaj,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are you running a python virtual environment using python 3.5? Once
> you start the virtual environment and type python you should see version
> 3.5.2 or something like that. It doesn't look like it. Here is some
> documentation that should be helpful - make sure you follow these steps:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) How to configure the toollflow:
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Configuring-the-Toolflow.html
> >>>>> 2) Running the toolflow:
> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Running-the-Toolflow.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does your startsg.local file look like this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> export XILINX_PATH=/opt/Xilinx/Vivado/2019.1
> >>>>> export MATLAB_PATH=/usr/local/MATLAB/R2018a
> >>>>> export PLATFORM=lin64
> >>>>> export JASPER_BACKEND=vivado
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # over-ride the MATLAB libexpat version with the OS's one.
> >>>>> # Using LD_PRELOAD=${LD_PRELOAD}:"..." rather than just
> LD_PRELOAD="..."
> >>>>> # ensures that we preserve any other settings already configured
> >>>>> export
> LD_PRELOAD=${LD_PRELOAD}:"/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # Activate a custom python environment on load
> >>>>> export CASPER_PYTHON_VENV_ON_START=/home/user/work/casper_venv
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You must run everything from the virtual environment in order to
> work. The last line in the startsg.local will automatically start your
> virtual environment session, but you can also do it manually e.g. source
> ~/venv/bin/activate will give you the following "(venv) 
> aisaacson@adam-cm:~/work/git_work/ska-sa/2019_1/mlib_devel$".
> The red (venv) tells you that you are in the virtual python environment.
> Remember you also need to install requirements.txt while the virtual
> environment is running.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then all you really need to do is run "./startsg" at the prompt and
> it should open up Matlab where you can build your slx file by typing in
> "jasper" or "jasper_frontend. if you use "jasper_frontend" then it will
> just compile sysgen and the simulink frontend. You can then open another
> terminal session and under "mlib_devel" type "source startsg
> startsg.local". This will make sure everything is in your path. You can
> then copy and paste the exec_flow.py command from the Matlab command window
> and then it should build the middle end and backend. Remember to start the
> virtual environment for this terminal window as well. This should all be in
> the above docs, but if you are still struggling then please send us a step
> by step terminal screen capture, so we can see if you are doing everything
> correctly, thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope this helps!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adam Isaacson
> >>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO)
> >>>>> Hardware Manager
> >>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602
> >>>>> Tel:  (+27) 215067300
> >>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 7:15 PM Kaj Wiik <kjw...@utu.fi> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A followup...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was able to start (but not run, see below...) the toolflow with
> the
> >>>>>> following modifications:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - to run jasper_frontend, I had to install python-yaml. I tried
> first to
> >>>>>> add python3-yaml but it seems that the toolflow is mixing python2
> and
> >>>>>> python3?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - I added 'export LM_LICENSE_FILE=/opt/Xilinx/Xilinx.lic' and
> >>>>>> 'export MLIB_DEVEL_PATH=~/mlib_devel' to startsg.local
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When matlab gave a command line and I run it, I got the following
> error
> >>>>>> message that I do not (yet!) understand:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> kjwiik@casperx:~/tmp$ source ../mlib_devel/startsg.local
> >>>>>> kjwiik@casperx:~/tmp$ /usr/bin/python
> >>>>>> /home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/exec_flow.py -m
> >>>>>> /home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/test_models/test_zcu111.slx
> >>>>>> --middleware --backend --software
> >>>>>> Starting compile
> >>>>>> Starting Toolflow!
> >>>>>> Frontend is simulink
> >>>>>> Setting compile directory:
> >>>>>> /home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/test_models/test_zcu111
> >>>>>> /home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/platforms/zcu111.yaml
> >>>>>> {'backend_target': 'vivado', 'name': 'zcu111', 'fpga':
> >>>>>> 'xczu28dr-ffvg1517-2-e', 'mmbus_architecture': 'AXI4-Lite',
> 'sources':
> >>>>>> [], 'cfgbvs': 'GND', 'provides': ['sys_clk'], 'config_voltage': 1.8,
> >>>>>> 'pins': {'clk_100_p': {'loc': 'AM15', 'iostd': 'LVDS'}, 'clk_100_n':
> >>>>>> {'loc': 'AN15', 'iostd': 'LVDS'}, 'led': {'loc': ['AR13', 'AP13',
> >>>>>> 'AR16', 'AP16', 'AP15', 'AN16', 'AN17', 'AV15'], 'iostd':
> 'LVCMOS18'}},
> >>>>>> 'mmbus_base_address': 2684354560, 'mmbus_address_alignment': 4,
> >>>>>> 'manufacturer': 'Xilinx', 'constraints': []}
> >>>>>> sw_reg
> >>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>>>>    File "/home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/exec_flow.py", line
> 197,
> >>>>>> in <module>
> >>>>>>      tf.gen_periph_objs()
> >>>>>>    File "/home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/toolflow.py", line
> 363,
> >>>>>> in gen_periph_objs
> >>>>>>      self.peripherals[pk], self.plat))
> >>>>>>    File
> >>>>>>
> "/home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/yellow_blocks/yellow_block.py",
> >>>>>> line 65, in make_block
> >>>>>>      return cls(blk,platform,hdl_root=hdl_root)
> >>>>>>    File
> >>>>>>
> "/home/kjwiik/mlib_devel/jasper_library/yellow_blocks/yellow_block.py",
> >>>>>> line 92, in __init__
> >>>>>>      self.hdl_root = os.getenv('HDL_ROOT').rstrip('/') #: The base
> >>>>>> directory from which source file's locations are specified
> >>>>>> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rstrip'
> >>>>>>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could this be again a python version problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Kaj
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/22/21 6:50 PM, Kaj Wiik wrote:
> >>>>>> > Hi!
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > I tried a bit different route: I installed python3-numpy and
> >>>>>> > python3-setuptools-git Ubuntu packages first and commented out
> numpy
> >>>>>> > from requirements.txt. At least the installation went fine using
> these
> >>>>>> > workarounds.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > About ZCU111 Slack channel, I am very interested (and my colleague
> >>>>>> > derek.mc...@utu.fi also), could you please send us an invitation?
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Many thanks for your kind help!
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Kaj
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On 1/20/21 10:22 PM, Dan Werthimer wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> hi kaj,
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> regarding your interest in ZCU111:
> >>>>>> >> there's a casper slack channel on RFSOC that you might find
> useful.
> >>>>>> >> wei liu recently developed a casper ADC yellow block for the
> ZCU111.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> best wishes,
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> dan
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Dan Werthimer
> >>>>>> >> Marilyn and Watson Alberts Chair
> >>>>>> >> Astronomy Dept and Space Sciences Lab
> >>>>>> >> University of California, Berkeley
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:17 PM Kaj Wiik <kaj.w...@utu.fi
> >>>>>> >> <mailto:kaj.w...@utu.fi>> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>     On 20/01/2021 18:49, Jack Hickish wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>      > I've been using Ubuntu 18.04 LTS without issues, at least
> with
> >>>>>> >>     the boards which use Vivado 2019. I'm not sure  what
> versions of
> >>>>>> >>     python the OS came with, but I'm currently running the
> toolflow in a
> >>>>>> >>     python 3.6.9 virtual env.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>     I first tried with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS but I got stuck with a
> problem
> >>>>>> >>     with Matlab and some system library versions.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>     I think I'll change the requirements.txt file to read
> "numpy<1.19"
> >>>>>> >>     and try with that first.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>     I am very interested of all information and experiences with
> Casper
> >>>>>> >>     on ZCU111. Thanks to Adam for pointing out of a mlib_devel
> ZCU111
> >>>>>> >>     branch, I haven't noticed that!
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>     Thanks!
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>     Kaj
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