[Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Chimene

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is a Catalyst question -

How do I reference __PACKAGE__config settings from a Template Toolkit 
template?


I'd like to use the config tool to set values outside the stash.

Cheers,
jec

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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Karman



Jeff Chimene scribbled on 4/12/07 9:29 AM:

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is a Catalyst question -

How do I reference __PACKAGE__config settings from a Template Toolkit 
template?


I'd like to use the config tool to set values outside the stash.




[% c.config.yourconfigkeyhere %]

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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Chimene

Peter Karman wrote:



Jeff Chimene scribbled on 4/12/07 9:29 AM:

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is a Catalyst question -

How do I reference __PACKAGE__config settings from a Template Toolkit 
template?


I'd like to use the config tool to set values outside the stash.




[% c.config.yourconfigkeyhere %]


Hi Peter,

Thank-you for the prompt response.

I tried that as one of my first attempts. No joy. I've also tried:
[%
   USE Dumper;
   dump_html(Catalyst);
%]

and I don't see the TT2 configuration settings. When I try the similar 
experiment in the perl module,  dump __PACKAGE__-config, the TT2 
configuration settings are displayed.


Here is the relevant perl code from the P::V I should be able to display 
any of these variables, right?

__PACKAGE__-config({
CATALYST_VAR = 'Catalyst',
INCLUDE_PATH = [
 fori-path_to( 'root', 'src' ),
 fori-path_to( 'root', 'lib' )
],
PRE_PROCESS  = 'config/main',
WRAPPER  = 'site/wrapper',
ERROR= 'error.tt2',
TIMER= 0,
FRAMES   = 1,
   });

Here are the TT2 references I've tried. I use ERROR here on the 
assumption (probably incorrect) that I cannot stick a new value into 
the config list.

Frames = [% Catalyst.config.error %]
Frames = [% c.config.error %]
Frames = [% Catalyst.config.ERROR %]
Frames = [% c.config.error %]

Cheers,
jec




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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Karman



Jeff Chimene scribbled on 4/12/07 10:35 AM:

and I don't see the TT2 configuration settings. When I try the similar 
experiment in the perl module,  dump __PACKAGE__-config, the TT2 
configuration settings are displayed.




that's because your TT config probably isn't getting set in the master config 
for your app, which is what c.config returns.


Every M/V/C in Catalyst has a config() method (iirc -- please correct me, oh 
gurus), and the master MyApp class has a config() too, which is where you 
generally set values for the entire application.


You can set your TT config there too. But looking at what you're trying to do, I 
wonder if what you really want is a TT type config file, which can set constants 
and other relevant TT stuff. CatRose has an example of how I do it:



http://search.cpan.org/src/KARMAN/Catalyst-Controller-Rose-0.01/examples/CatRose/lib/CatRose/View/TT.pm

cheers.

pek

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Re: [Catalyst] little syntax

2007-04-12 Thread Jim Spath

Hi Will,

You want:

 $c-stash-{recs} = [EMAIL PROTECTED];

And then to access it in the Template Toolkit template, you want:

 [% FOREACH row IN recs %]
  id: [% row.id %]
  name: [% row.name %]br /
 [% END %]

And you should probably check out the following two URLs for more info 
on Catalyst + Template Toolkit.


 http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Manual/
 http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/plain/Manual/index.html

- Jim

Will Smith wrote:

I have the following piece of code:
 
 # in controller

 ...
 while ( my $row = $file-read ) {
 push @record, {
 id = $row-{id},
 name = $row-{name},
 };
 }
 $c-stash-{recs} = @records;
 .
 
 What is the syntax on the tt2 to access the id and name?

 Or please point me to somewhere that I could do some reading on the question.
 
 Thank you


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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Chimene

Peter Karman wrote:



Jeff Chimene scribbled on 4/12/07 10:35 AM:

and I don't see the TT2 configuration settings. When I try the 
similar experiment in the perl module,  dump __PACKAGE__-config, 
the TT2 configuration settings are displayed.




that's because your TT config probably isn't getting set in the master 
config for your app, which is what c.config returns.


Every M/V/C in Catalyst has a config() method (iirc -- please correct 
me, oh gurus), and the master MyApp class has a config() too, which is 
where you generally set values for the entire application.


You can set your TT config there too. But looking at what you're 
trying to do, I wonder if what you really want is a TT type config 
file, which can set constants and other relevant TT stuff. CatRose has 
an example of how I do it:



http://search.cpan.org/src/KARMAN/Catalyst-Controller-Rose-0.01/examples/CatRose/lib/CatRose/View/TT.pm 



cheers.

pek


Hi Peter,

The config is called in the View package (fori::View::Menu) I was hoping 
to set TT2 values /per package/ via the config as created by the TT2 
helper. It looks like (after DEBUG = 'all') that TT2 only references 
the stash when it resolves variables.


I think that I'll look for other ways to solve this problem.

Cheers,
jec

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Re: [Catalyst] little syntax

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Karman



Will Smith scribbled on 4/12/07 11:43 AM:

I have the following piece of code:
 
 # in controller

 ...
 while ( my $row = $file-read ) {
 push @record, {
 id = $row-{id},
 name = $row-{name},
 };
 }
 $c-stash-{recs} = @records;
 .
 
 What is the syntax on the tt2 to access the id and name?

 Or please point me to somewhere that I could do some reading on the question.
 


you want:

 $c-stash-{recs} = [EMAIL PROTECTED];

and then in tt:

 [% FOR rec IN recs;

 rec.id;
 rec.name;

  END %]


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[Catalyst] Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread Brian Kirkbride

Hello all,

I have a CMS-like application using Catalyst for which about 40-50% of requests 
contain large file uploads.  I'm using a pretty standard two-tiered setup to 
avoid tying up heavy mod_perl procs for slow client downloads.


Now I'd like to avoid tying up the heavy procs for slow uploads.  Many suggest 
to run upload handlers as CGI rather than mod_perl because the 1s startup time 
is negligent compared to the time required to upload.  I have tried this and it 
works, but it still creates a 60+ MB process to sit around for 2 minutes while a 
dial up user uploads a huge image.


I'm thinking of splitting file upload handling out to a simple CGI app (no 
Catalyst code) that serializes the request, including uploaded files, to a tmp 
directory.  It would then redirect to a Catalyst-handled URL matching the 
serialized request.  Then I can validate the submission in Catalyst and display 
success or error using my views, etc.


Is there something like this in existence already?  I searched Google and CPAN 
but didn't find anything promising.  I'd appreciate any tips or suggestions.  If 
I do implement it from scratch, would there be any interest in the CGI and a 
Catalyst base controller being released on CPAN?


Best,
Brian Kirkbride

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Re: [Catalyst] Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Karman



Brian Kirkbride scribbled on 4/12/07 12:16 PM:

Is there something like this in existence already?  I searched Google 
and CPAN but didn't find anything promising.  I'd appreciate any tips or 
suggestions.  If I do implement it from scratch, would there be any 
interest in the CGI and a Catalyst base controller being released on CPAN?




I'd be interested in collaborating on something if you end up rolling your own. 
We were looking at this recently:


 http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/wiki/Docs%3AModUploadProgress

and doing something similar to what you're describing.

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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Jason Kohles

On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Chimene wrote:



The config is called in the View package (fori::View::Menu) I was  
hoping to set TT2 values /per package/ via the config as created by  
the TT2 helper. It looks like (after DEBUG = 'all') that TT2 only  
references the stash when it resolves variables.


What is the problem you are trying to solve?  Changing the template  
processor configuration from within a template that it is currently  
processing doesn't seem wise to me.



That being said, the reason that only the stash variables are  
accessible is because they are all that are provided to TT by default...


package MyApp::View::TT;

sub template_vars {
my ( $self, $c ) = @_;

my %vars = $self-SUPER::template_vars( $c );

$vars{ 'ttconfig' } = $self-config;

return %vars;
}

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Re: [Catalyst] little syntax

2007-04-12 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:43:07AM -0700, Will Smith wrote:
 I have the following piece of code:
  
  # in controller
  ...
  while ( my $row = $file-read ) {

Template Toolkit also has WHILE so you could just pass in $file

Extensive use of $c-log-_dump or [% USE Dumper %] or other
variations can save a lot of time when dealing with the templates.


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[Catalyst] Re: Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Brian,

* Brian Kirkbride [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-12 19:25]:
 I have a CMS-like application using Catalyst for which about
 40-50% of requests contain large file uploads. I'm using a
 pretty standard two-tiered setup to avoid tying up heavy
 mod_perl procs for slow client downloads.
 
 […]
 
 I'm thinking of splitting file upload handling out to a
 simple CGI app (no Catalyst code) that serializes the request,
 including uploaded files, to a tmp directory. It would then
 redirect to a Catalyst-handled URL matching the serialized
 request.

My suggestion is to do something much more transparent.

Use a CGI script on the front-end webserver to accept uploads.
When the upload completes, the CGI script then in turn makes a
HTTP request to the application webserver server to upload the
file, and returns the app’s response to the client.

That way, the actual application itself does not need to change
at all. There is no serialisation mechanism, no extra code in the
application to handle such a special upload mechanism, no need
for configuration of filesystem paths or other shared resources,
nothing. The handling is isolated on the front-end webserver.

This way, a programming consideration becomes a mere deployment
consideration.

HTTP is great like that.

 Is there something like this in existence already? I searched
 Google and CPAN but didn't find anything promising. I'd
 appreciate any tips or suggestions. If I do implement it from
 scratch, would there be any interest in the CGI and a Catalyst
 base controller being released on CPAN?

Sometimes, there is no code to do something because no code is
needed to do it. :-)

Regards,
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[Catalyst] Re: internal redirect

2007-04-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Adeola,

* Adeola Awoyemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-11 16:40]:
 In my application I'm generating images on the fly and want to
 redirect to the image if creation succeeds.
 
 I tried using $c-response-redirect( $new_filepath ) but
 that  issues a 302 Temporarily Moved status. But what I
 actually want is  a way to do the redirect outside of the
 response chain.

how to do this has been answered, but I want to point out that
you may not actually want to do it.

If the request is not for the canonical address of the image,
then you should use an external redirect. Otherwise, the URL that
the browser sees is not that of the image, but that of eg. a form
action address, and people will bookmark (or paste in a forum, or
whatever) the wrong link.

This is particularly important if you are generating an image in
response to a POST request. If you don’t respond with an external
redirect to a POST, then users hitting the Back button might
re-submit the form.

You should use the internal redirect only if the browser is
already sending a request for the canonical address for the
image and it should always use this URL to request the image
you are generating. This might be the case if the image you are
generating is a thumbnail, f.ex.

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Re: [Catalyst] Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread Perrin Harkins

On 4/12/07, Brian Kirkbride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Now I'd like to avoid tying up the heavy procs for slow uploads.  Many suggest
to run upload handlers as CGI rather than mod_perl because the 1s startup time
is negligent compared to the time required to upload.  I have tried this and it
works, but it still creates a 60+ MB process to sit around for 2 minutes while a
dial up user uploads a huge image.


Yeah, I was reading that and thinking that you'll probably use more
memory for CGI, since you still have to run perl but you don't get any
copy-on-write benefit.  It could be offset by loading as few modules
as possible into the CGI, but that seems kind of ugly.

A better solution would be a proxy that buffers uploads.  I thought
mod_proxy would do this for you.  Are you certain that it doesn't?  If
so, take a look at the other proxy options out there.

- Perrin

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Re: [Catalyst] new C::P::A::LDAP for new-style C::P::A

2007-04-12 Thread Jay K

Mentioned on irc, but you can drop the Credential portion of this
altogether.

All you need to do is use the standard Password credential and set
the password_type config option to be 'self_check', and it will do
what you want, actually almost _exactly_ what your code does in
fact.  The check_password() method is called against the user object,
though, not the store.

Beyond that, I have not worked with LDAP in a very long time  so
the other bits someone else will have to comment on.

Jay



On Apr 12, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Evan Carroll wrote:


I've create a new version of C::P::A::LDAP to work with the new
C::P::A
api more info at a:
http://search.cpan.org/~jayk/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication/lib/
Catalyst/Plugin/Authentication.pm

The new version has run-time configuration of dns and rules, this
allows namespaces that can be configured at login. This functionality
is required by portal like sites that need namespaces for each
client/company. It also has full store functionality so it won't hit
the directory on each successive call to $c-user.

so you can do something like base_dn: dc=%s,dc=%s,ou=clients;o=Company
and resolve that on a call to -authenticate(
{basedn_values = [ 'foo', 'com'], id = 'username', pw = 'password' }
);

As a last note this version also keeps a config object from login
which
mirrors the C::P::A::LDAP config on compile time, but reflects the
modifications made on the call to -authenticate(), this can be
accessed
with $c-user-config and utilized from within a module. Examples of
applications in pod.

I don't have any tests created largely because I don't see any
useful ones that are easily created, but there is documentation in
the .tar.gz as
pody.pod.

You can find a copy at http://64.200.109.9/LDAP.tar.gz comments
welcome.


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Re: [Catalyst] Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread Brian Kirkbride

Perrin Harkins wrote:

On 4/12/07, Brian Kirkbride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I'd like to avoid tying up the heavy procs for slow uploads.  Many 
suggest
to run upload handlers as CGI rather than mod_perl because the 1s 
startup time
is negligent compared to the time required to upload.  I have tried 
this and it
works, but it still creates a 60+ MB process to sit around for 2 
minutes while a

dial up user uploads a huge image.


Yeah, I was reading that and thinking that you'll probably use more
memory for CGI, since you still have to run perl but you don't get any
copy-on-write benefit.  It could be offset by loading as few modules
as possible into the CGI, but that seems kind of ugly.

A better solution would be a proxy that buffers uploads.  I thought
mod_proxy would do this for you.  Are you certain that it doesn't?  If
so, take a look at the other proxy options out there.

- Perrin


Perrin,

It doesn't look like mod_proxy, which I am currently using, supports this.  It 
looks like Perlbal does however.  Any other suggestions?  I'd like to avoid 
Squid as it would be overkill for this application.


Thanks!

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Re: [Catalyst] Re: Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread Brian Kirkbride

A. Pagaltzis wrote:

Hi Brian,

* Brian Kirkbride [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-12 19:25]:

I have a CMS-like application using Catalyst for which about
40-50% of requests contain large file uploads. I'm using a
pretty standard two-tiered setup to avoid tying up heavy
mod_perl procs for slow client downloads.

[…]

I'm thinking of splitting file upload handling out to a
simple CGI app (no Catalyst code) that serializes the request,
including uploaded files, to a tmp directory. It would then
redirect to a Catalyst-handled URL matching the serialized
request.


My suggestion is to do something much more transparent.

Use a CGI script on the front-end webserver to accept uploads.
When the upload completes, the CGI script then in turn makes a
HTTP request to the application webserver server to upload the
file, and returns the app’s response to the client.

That way, the actual application itself does not need to change
at all. There is no serialisation mechanism, no extra code in the
application to handle such a special upload mechanism, no need
for configuration of filesystem paths or other shared resources,
nothing. The handling is isolated on the front-end webserver.

This way, a programming consideration becomes a mere deployment
consideration.

HTTP is great like that.


Is there something like this in existence already? I searched
Google and CPAN but didn't find anything promising. I'd
appreciate any tips or suggestions. If I do implement it from
scratch, would there be any interest in the CGI and a Catalyst
base controller being released on CPAN?


Sometimes, there is no code to do something because no code is
needed to do it. :-)



Wonderful, thank you for the insight Aristotle.  I will try Perrin's suggestion 
of using an upload-buffering proxy first, falling back on a simple CGI proxy 
like this if need be.


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Re: [Catalyst] Handling slow uploads externally

2007-04-12 Thread Perrin Harkins

On 4/12/07, Brian Kirkbride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It doesn't look like mod_proxy, which I am currently using, supports this.  It
looks like Perlbal does however.  Any other suggestions?


Since I always use mod_proxy, I can't vouch for any others.  I've seen
people mention nginx, pound, and pen.

It might also be worth asking about this on the mod_proxy list, or
checking the archives.

- Perrin

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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Jeff Chimene

Jason Kohles wrote:

On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Chimene wrote:



The config is called in the View package (fori::View::Menu) I was 
hoping to set TT2 values /per package/ via the config as created by 
the TT2 helper. It looks like (after DEBUG = 'all') that TT2 only 
references the stash when it resolves variables.


What is the problem you are trying to solve?  Changing the template 
processor configuration from within a template that it is currently 
processing doesn't seem wise to me.



That being said, the reason that only the stash variables are 
accessible is because they are all that are provided to TT by default...


package MyApp::View::TT;

sub template_vars {
my ( $self, $c ) = @_;

my %vars = $self-SUPER::template_vars( $c );

$vars{ 'ttconfig' } = $self-config;

return %vars;
}


Hi Jason,

Thanks for the reply. The problem I'm trying to solve is referencing 
(reading) config settings from a template. I'd like to tell one or more 
templates that sometimes they will use frames  sometimes not 
(debugging). I blithely assumed this would be an appropriate use of 
configuration variables. I was wrong. I'll use the stash for now.


Cheers,
jec

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Re: [Catalyst] HOWTO reference config settings from template

2007-04-12 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 04:18:06PM -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
 Thanks for the reply. The problem I'm trying to solve is referencing 
 (reading) config settings from a template. I'd like to tell one or more 
 templates that sometimes they will use frames  sometimes not 
 (debugging). I blithely assumed this would be an appropriate use of 
 configuration variables. I was wrong. I'll use the stash for now.

What's View is generating your templates?

you can't do [% c.config.foo %] ?

How about:

[% USE Dumper;  Dumper.dump( c.config ) | stderr %]

Maybe your View isn't stuffing $c into the stash, or is using a
different name (see C::View::TT).

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