Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?
On 24 October 2011 10:31, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Should I take a look at something like Magento? - Or keep to Perl stuff like Catalyst? (note I am currently a good C++ coder, and can code C and Python) Look at Mango and Handel, both on cpan (and github iirc) - they are a good foundation to build on, and could do with somebody picking up the baton. Mango is a f/w that extends/buildson/forks Handel, and they're both Catalyst - they're aren't a drop in and go solution and I'm not even sure they're finished, but when I was spec'ing out a large e-commerce project for a freelance client they appeared from my reading through the author's blogs and the code itself to do the lions share of heavy lifting. A. -- Aaron J Trevena, BSc Hons http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk LAMP System Integration, Development and Consulting ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On Thursday, 03 November, 2011 at 02:31:56 GMT, Santiago Zarate wrote: If i'm not wrong, being basically a DateTime object you should be able to do whatever you like with it instead of having to do a search replace, consider using DBIx::Class::InflateColumn to have DBIx do the job for you every time you need to use that specific model... Indeed. Consider using a formatter: https://metacpan.org/module/DateTime#Formatters-And-Stringification -- . ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On 3 Nov 2011, at 02:05, Adam Jimerson wrote: but in my Catalyst app the date looks like this 2011-05-07T13:53:41. The T instead of the space is driving me crazy, I think it is coming from DateTime::Format:Pg As other people have noted, what's happening is that DateTime::Format:Pg is parsing the dates you get out of Postgres, and handing you a DateTime object back. You're then printing that with no formatting, as you're basically getting an ISO8601 timestamp out. Have a look at the docs for DateTime and the associated DateTime::Format::XX things :) Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
The problem I see with doing it this way: $formatted_date_string =
$c-model('DB::TableName')-find($row_index)-date_field-mdy('/'); is
that It looks like I would
have to do this every time I grab a date from the database. That is fine
but there are times in my app where I pull everything from the database to
display like so:
my $things = $c-stash-{mydata_rs}-search(
undef,
{
order_by = { -asc = 'uniq' },
},
);
where each item has a timestamp of when it was created and when it was last
modified, would I have to do another search to get the datetime formatted
or worse pull them one by one building a hash_ref or array?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote:
On 3 Nov 2011, at 02:05, Adam Jimerson wrote:
but in my Catalyst app the
date looks like this 2011-05-07T13:53:41. The T instead of the space
is driving me crazy, I think it is coming from DateTime::Format:Pg
As other people have noted, what's happening is that DateTime::Format:Pg
is parsing the dates you get out of Postgres, and handing you a DateTime
object back.
You're then printing that with no formatting, as you're basically getting
an ISO8601 timestamp out.
Have a look at the docs for DateTime and the associated
DateTime::Format::XX things :)
Cheers
t0m
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[Catalyst] Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Perl compare?
Good afternoon, I'm building a large e-commerce site, and it is very important that what I write can: - Handle large server loads - Deliver pages quickly - Make transactions quickly as well as have a small development time (i.e. pre-built modules for e-commerce are available, and are extendible). Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-frameworks? (i.e. Symfony, DJango, Rails, ASP.NET etc) Thanks for all information, Alec Taylor ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On 03/11/2011, at 9:40 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
The problem I see with doing it this way: $formatted_date_string =
$c-model('DB::TableName')-find($row_index)-date_field-mdy('/'); is
that It looks like I would
have to do this every time I grab a date from the database. That is fine
but there are times in my app where I pull everything from the database to
display like so:
my $things = $c-stash-{mydata_rs}-search(
undef,
{
order_by = { -asc = 'uniq' },
},
);
One option is to define a method in whatever Result class mydata_rs produces:
sub my_date_format {
my $self = shift;
return $self-date_field-mdy('/');
}
then in your template:
[% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); row.my_date_format ; END %]
or you can just call the datetime methods in the template:
[% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); row.my_date_field.ymd('/') ; END %]
where each item has a timestamp of when it was created and when it was last
modified, would I have to do another search to get the datetime formatted
or worse pull them one by one building a hash_ref or array?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote:
On 3 Nov 2011, at 02:05, Adam Jimerson wrote:
but in my Catalyst app the
date looks like this 2011-05-07T13:53:41. The T instead of the space
is driving me crazy, I think it is coming from DateTime::Format:Pg
As other people have noted, what's happening is that DateTime::Format:Pg
is parsing the dates you get out of Postgres, and handing you a DateTime
object back.
You're then printing that with no formatting, as you're basically getting
an ISO8601 timestamp out.
Have a look at the docs for DateTime and the associated
DateTime::Format::XX things :)
Cheers
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Re: [Catalyst] Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Perl compare?
Hi Alec, On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-frameworks? (i.e. Symfony, DJango, Rails, ASP.NET etc) I don't have any statistics, but I can tell you that Catalyst handles 50 million pageviews a month for us with just two web-/application-servers and there's still a lot of room (CPU-load peaks at around 2 on a quad-core). Your bottleneck will almost always be your database, most certainly not Catalyst. Comparing Catalyst to other frameworks in a Hello world-style benchmark (as has been done by some people in the past) really proves absolutely nothing because your app will probably spend 80% of its time waiting for the database. Catalyst has a lot of pre-built components/plugins that will help you with almost every aspect you'll have to deal with: https://metacpan.org/search?q=catalyst%3A%3Aplugin If you're looking for complete, ready-to-use applications (like Magento) I guess you need to start looking in the direction of PHP because neither Perl nor Python or Ruby offer that much variety there. But if what you want is a custom solution, I can whole-heartedly recommend Catalyst and its ecosystem! HTH, Toby ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/11/2011, at 9:40 PM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
The problem I see with doing it this way: $formatted_date_string =
$c-model('DB::TableName')-find($row_index)-date_field-mdy('/'); is
that It looks like I would
have to do this every time I grab a date from the database. That is fine
but there are times in my app where I pull everything from the database
to
display like so:
my $things = $c-stash-{mydata_rs}-search(
undef,
{
order_by = { -asc = 'uniq' },
},
);
One option is to define a method in whatever Result class mydata_rs
produces:
sub my_date_format {
my $self = shift;
return $self-date_field-mdy('/');
}
then in your template:
[% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); row.my_date_format ; END %]
or you can just call the datetime methods in the template:
[% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); row.my_date_field.ymd('/') ; END %]
So if I go the latter route and call it from the template I won't have to
use a sub like that to do the formatting correct? Also would it accept a
ymd hms format or do they have to be separate?
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Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On 3 Nov 2011, at 12:21, Adam Jimerson wrote: Also would it accept a ymd hms format or do they have to be separate? Please see the fine documentation for DateTime. Another option is to add a 'format_date' method to your view, and use the expose_methods config setting for View::TT.. In your TT code you'd then say [% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); format_date(row.my_date_field); END %] Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Perl compare?
On 3 November 2011 10:42, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I'm building a large e-commerce site, and it is very important that what I write can: - Handle large server loads - Deliver pages quickly - Make transactions quickly as well as have a small development time (i.e. pre-built modules for e-commerce are available, and are extendible). Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-frameworks? (i.e. Symfony, DJango, Rails, ASP.NET etc) No metrics are available as all major MVC frameworks use a fairly standard combination of Template rendering, ORM data layer, etc and solve the underlying inherent performance problems of using ORM in similar ways. The best example of that is to look at and understand http://use-the-index-luke.com/sql/join/nested-loops-join-n1-problem - essentially you need to avoid any framework with a data layer that doesn't have a solution to this problem, and know how to use it correctly when you pick one to avoid hitting it accidentally. There also aren't really any metrics for development time - the closest thing is the Plat_Forms competition (http://www.plat-forms.org/ their last report was from 2007 and so is a bit out of date, particularly about technical features available to frameworks such as WSDL support), which avoids such metrics as it's comparing apples and pears - however it is very informative and will be publishing this years report in 2-3 weeks - if you're doing a proper evaluation of frameworks this is essential reading about the state of the art in the widest used general purpose MVC frameworks in Europe (it doesn't include CMS/Blog platforms that have been extended to act as application servers like Django or Wordpress). There's also http://chrislaco.com/blog/mvc-marathon/ which although from 2008 is still pretty interesting. Hope that helps, A. -- Aaron J Trevena, BSc Hons http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk LAMP System Integration, Development and Consulting ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst::Plugin::AutoCRUD setup_components
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Jason Galea li...@eightdegrees.com.auwrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote: On 1 Nov 2011, at 10:48, Jason Galea wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote: On 1 Nov 2011, at 03:24, Jason Galea wrote: any suggestions? Can you show us the code that doesn't work when it's in your app? Hi t0m, thanks, I'll try to keep it relevant. If you don't see anything and you'e still keen there's more but I think these are the relevant parts.. Yeah, gotcha. I'm not sure offhand why this doesn't work, but I can have a poke into how AutoCRUD extends things and see if I can reproduce and/or recommend a way for AutoCRUD to do it better.. Hi t0m, I'll try and do some further testing on this tomorrow but at first glance it appears I've managed to turn the AutoCRUD plugin into a role which works with the rest of my app.. (file attached). cheers, J AutoCRUD.pm Description: Perl program ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote: Another option is to *add a 'format_date' method to your view*, and use the *expose_methods *config setting for View::TT.. In your TT code you'd then say [% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); format_date(row.my_date_field)**; END %] /lurkInteresting... Aha, that's what * http://search.cpan.org/~mstrout/Catalyst-View-TT-0.37/lib/Catalyst/View/TT.pm#expose_methods * is talking about. Hadn't noticed that before. Neat! -- The very nucleus of Character: to do what you know you should do, when you don't want to do it. Stephen Covey ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On 3 Nov 2011, at 15:38, will trillich wrote: Aha, that's what http://search.cpan.org/~mstrout/Catalyst-View-TT-0.37/lib/Catalyst/View/TT.pm#expose_methods is talking about. Hadn't noticed that before. Not noticed it before (fair enough), or not clear enough in the documentation? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:38 AM, will trillich will.trill...@serensoft.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.netwrote: Another option is to *add a 'format_date' method to your view*, and use the *expose_methods *config setting for View::TT.. In your TT code you'd then say [% WHILE (row = mydata_rs.next); format_date(row.my_date_field)**; END %] /lurkInteresting... Aha, that's what * http://search.cpan.org/~mstrout/Catalyst-View-TT-0.37/lib/Catalyst/View/TT.pm#expose_methods * is talking about. Hadn't noticed that before. Neat! Agreed thanks for pointing that out, I might try that out once I get a chance to play around with my app again ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
Catalyst sure is wide and deep. One can get a reasonably advanced app running in Catalyst without knowing broad stretches of what goes on, or *can* go on, under the hood. There's so much possible, and so many handy methods and plugins that you're gonna A) overlook things on the mad dash to the goal or B) not understand the value of things until much later (like abstracting code to a library, it often takes a few iterations before the utility becomes obvious). This case was a combination of both. I often struggle to find the answer to a has someone else solved this already question, and wind up rolling my own solution... only to run in to someone else's cleverer, cleaner approaches later (often by accident). In order to have 'perfect documentation' it must meet two criteria: A) explain the utility and usage (benefits and how-to) *in a way that I can grok* and B) show up on my radar *in my searches*. Both of these depend a helluva lot on my own activity and context, making compliance impossible. :) Sometimes scar tissue is the only (best?) way to really learn. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote: On 3 Nov 2011, at 15:38, will trillich wrote: Aha, that's what http://search.cpan.org/~**mstrout/Catalyst-View-TT-0.37/ **lib/Catalyst/View/TT.pm#**expose_methodshttp://search.cpan.org/~mstrout/Catalyst-View-TT-0.37/lib/Catalyst/View/TT.pm#expose_methodsis talking about. Hadn't noticed that before. Not noticed it before (fair enough), or not clear enough in the documentation? Cheers t0m __**_ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/catalysthttp://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/** catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- The very nucleus of Character: to do what you know you should do, when you don't want to do it. Stephen Covey ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On 3 Nov 2011, at 19:03, will trillich wrote: In order to have 'perfect documentation' it must meet two criteria: A) explain the utility and usage (benefits and how-to) in a way that I can grok and B) show up on my radar in my searches. Both of these depend a helluva lot on my own activity and context, making compliance impossible. :) Sometimes scar tissue is the only (best?) way to really learn. Sure, I totally agree. I'm also entirely certain that the documentation as it stands fails at meeting (or at least is way before the standard it could be) in your criteria for (A), and therefore will fail to meet a good many other people's version of the same criteria. As someone who has 'just got it', you are absolutely the best placed person to modify the documentation to add to the benefits (and maybe provide an example) as to make it more clear to people, so that the documentation _will_ fulfill that criteria for a broader range of people who happen to read it in future. Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Perl compare?
On 03/11/2011, at 10:00 PM, Tobias Kremer wrote: Hi Alec, On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-frameworks? (i.e. Symfony, DJango, Rails, ASP.NET etc) There's one catalyst site in the adult industry sector which has an alexia rank of 81. To the best of my knowledge they don't have to use excessive hardware, or use baroque framework customisations to serve pages effectively. The BBC iplayer is another very high traffic site that achieves similar scale (it might even have more traffic than the adult site). On the other end, I have a single user data analysis app that is quite fast and responsive, even though its data model does some potentially inefficient stuff with the file system, but this hasn't been an issue for me to date. You'll note there again that it's the model that's the bottleneck not the framework. And in terms of development process, right now my team are having to do some fairly heavy repurposing parts of an existing app without breaking backwards compatibility with other bits, under fairly tight deadlines. While this type of work is never going to be especially easy (in terms of accumulating cruft and introducing architectural complexity), a tool like catalyst really helps achieve the deliverables and keep the customer happy. I don't have any statistics, but I can tell you that Catalyst handles 50 million pageviews a month for us with just two web-/application-servers and there's still a lot of room (CPU-load peaks at around 2 on a quad-core). Your bottleneck will almost always be your database, most certainly not Catalyst. Comparing Catalyst to other frameworks in a Hello world-style benchmark (as has been done by some people in the past) really proves absolutely nothing because your app will probably spend 80% of its time waiting for the database. Catalyst has a lot of pre-built components/plugins that will help you with almost every aspect you'll have to deal with: https://metacpan.org/search?q=catalyst%3A%3Aplugin These days you should be looking in the Catalyst::Controller, and Catalyst::TraitFor namespaces for extensions, except for the few that really need to mess with the request cycle. Which are still plugins.There's also a whole bunch of Catalyst::Models on CPAN too, as well as the Catalyst::Model::Adaptor family of modules for gluing other arbitrary things into catalyst. If you're looking for complete, ready-to-use applications (like Magento) I guess you need to start looking in the direction of PHP because neither Perl nor Python or Ruby offer that much variety there. But if what you want is a custom solution, I can whole-heartedly recommend Catalyst and its ecosystem! Yes, PHP owns the ready to roll one-size-fits-all-for-one-click-deployment-on-shared-hosting space. I don't see that changing any time soon. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
Pushy, pushy. :) I'll see what I can come up with. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote: On 3 Nov 2011, at 19:03, will trillich wrote: In order to have 'perfect documentation' it must meet two criteria: A) explain the utility and usage (benefits and how-to) in a way that I can grok and B) show up on my radar in my searches. Both of these depend a helluva lot on my own activity and context, making compliance impossible. :) Sometimes scar tissue is the only (best?) way to really learn. Sure, I totally agree. I'm also entirely certain that the documentation as it stands fails at meeting (or at least is way before the standard it could be) in your criteria for (A), and therefore will fail to meet a good many other people's version of the same criteria. As someone who has 'just got it', you are absolutely the best placed person to modify the documentation to add to the benefits (and maybe provide an example) as to make it more clear to people, so that the documentation _will_ fulfill that criteria for a broader range of people who happen to read it in future. Cheers t0m __**_ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/catalysthttp://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/** catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- The very nucleus of Character: to do what you know you should do, when you don't want to do it. Stephen Covey ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Annoyance with Static::Simple and Log4Perl on Catalyst 5.9
I came across this bug after a recent upgrade to Catalyst 5.9. Static content
served by Static::Simple is logged in apps which use Log4Perl for logging.
There was a suggestion that using $c-log-_flush would prevent this (which
leaves the question of how to detect a development environment to automate this
in development).
To confirm this I wrote a minimal test case, but I'm not sure where to take it
from here. Any ideas?
The minimal test case is below:
package StaticTest::Controller::Root;
use Moose;
use namespace::autoclean;
BEGIN { extends 'Catalyst::Controller' }
__PACKAGE__-config(namespace = '');
sub default :Path {
my ( $self, $c ) = @_;
$c-response-body( $c-welcome_message );
}
sub end : ActionClass('RenderView') {
my ($self, $c) = @_;
$c-log-_flush; # doesn't suppress static logging
}
__PACKAGE__-meta-make_immutable;
1;
package StaticTest;
use Moose;
use namespace::autoclean;
use Log::Log4perl::Catalyst;
use Catalyst::Runtime 5.80;
use Catalyst qw/
-Debug
ConfigLoader
Static::Simple
/;
extends 'Catalyst';
our $VERSION = '0.01';
# doesn't suppress logging of static content
after 'finalize' = sub {
my ($self) = @_;
$self-log-_flush;
};
__PACKAGE__-log(Log::Log4perl::Catalyst-new());
__PACKAGE__-config(
name = 'StaticTest',
disable_component_resolution_regex_fallback = 1,
);
__PACKAGE__-setup();
1;
Kieren Diment
PhD Candidate
Health Informatics Research Lab,
Faculty of Informatics,
University of Wollongong
Tel: +61 4221 3952
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Re: [Catalyst] Dealing with timestamps from Postgres
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 15:20 -0500, will trillich wrote: The very nucleus of Character: to do what you know you should do, when you don't want to do it. Stephen Covey Good .sig quote for a thread about documentation :) ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
