Re: [Catalyst] Re: Advent 2012 -- Catalyst in Nine Steps -- Kudos toOctavian
Pretty solid list, mind if I use it to blog? regarding the thing about Catalyst and its half in and half out regarding Moose, yeah I think this is definitely a problem. Luckily I think a lot of the more important bits that are not moose could be moved to Plack middleware (authentication and authorization stuff for example). John - Original Message - > From: Octavian Rasnita > To: John Napiorkowski ; The elegant MVC web framework > > Cc: > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Re: Advent 2012 -- Catalyst in Nine Steps -- Kudos > toOctavian > > From: "John Napiorkowski" > > - Original Message - >> From: Octavian Rasnita >> To: John Napiorkowski ; The elegant MVC web > framework >> Cc: >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Re: Advent 2012 -- Catalyst in Nine Steps -- Kudos > toOctavian >> >> From: "John Napiorkowski" >> >> >> Hi John and thank you again. >> >>> I'd really like to see a project to gather up, modernize and peer >> review all the best / informative Advent articles of years past, and we > could >> gather >>> it together as an open source project on github (similarly to the way > the >> Modern Perl book is done). Crafting an ebook would be >>> straightforward, even if we didn't have a publisher. We could > version >> it and update it from time to time as well. >>> We could even put it on some various ebook sites and charge a small > fee, to >> try and raise some money for the project. >> >> >> I mean, if we are talking about existing articles only, I think that even a >> beginner can read catalystframework.org and Catalyst advent articles from >> previous years. >> > >> I guess my thinking is some of the older articles that are good are also > pre Moose and pre PSGI. I figured modernizing them and having >> people review it for modern practices would make them more valuable. > > Yes, this is true. "modernizing" is the key word as you said in your > original message, but I skipped it. > Maybe it can be a good idea to present the modernized article, and also add a > link in it to the old article, to make more obvious what is changing, and > what's the benefit (because it wouldn't be helpful to just tell that now > we should use "use Moose; extends '...';" instead of just > "use parent '...'". > > But... maybe it could be also helpful to modernize Catalyst modules on CPAN, > because some of them use Moose, and some of them don't and some helpers > generate models that use Moose and others generate models that don't use it, > and this may be a little confusing for newbies. > > >> And yes, I think you are right about the reasons of not too much > contribution in >> the last period... >> >> Maybe it would require a smaller effort to just create a page with links to > the >> recommended articles, and I think the recommended articles for a beginner > should >> be those who allow him to create a web site with little effort, not the > best >> posible which may be hard to understand by a beginner. > >> No doubt, we could easily do that! > > > > OK, I visited Catalyst Advent, and I made a list of articles which I think > that > may be helpful. Some of them need to be modernized. Here below is the list. > It > is a kind of vote for them. The other list members can also give their vote > pro > or against and also express their opinions or propose other articles. It > could > be helpful if somebody can make a list of articles from main Catalyst web > site > that might be also included (eventually modernized). > I don't know how many of the Catalyst developers would have the time to do > that modernization though... > > (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 11 - Caching > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/11 > > (2007) Making your Catalyst App Cache-friendly > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/11 > > (2010) Painless Memcached Configuration With Catalyst & DBIx::Class > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/3 > > (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 15 - Sessions > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/15 > > (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 16 - Adding RSS feeds > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/16 > > If there are better ways to add an RSS feed, it should be modernized. > > (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 18 - Catalyst::View::TT > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/18 > > (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 19 - Testing > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/19 > > (2006) Day 7 - Testing with an External Web Server > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/7 > > (2006) Day 17 - Testing Catalyst Controllers > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/17 > > Eventually create a single big article or a serie of articles regarding > testing. > > (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 22 - Action Types > http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/22 > > (2005) Catalyst Advent
Re: [Catalyst] Windows Deployment
From: Tadhg Hi All, I’m trying to deploy a simple Catalyst application for internal users, so I don’t need anything fancy load balancing or proxy servers etc. My environment, Server: Windows 2003 server 32 bit Dev Client: Windows 7 64 bit Perl: 5.14.12 32 bit Catalyst: 5.90018 I’ve had a look at the deployment page on the Catalyst Wiki, which gives a good indication of what sould work (though I think some of it may be out of date). Each option I try leads to a roadblock, so I start down a new path with the same result. My no doubt misguided impressions are, Nginx/Lighttpd have limited win support, Acache is difficult and so not recommended and IIS needs Apache and FastCGI and is therefore doubly complex. What I’d like is somebody to tell me what they have working on windows, or even better what the best/least painful solution is? If appropriate I’ll then update/extend the wiki. Thanks, Tadhg Apache with mod_perl works fine. (Installing mod_perl using ppm) Apache configuration is very simple to make a Catalyst app work with it. Octavian ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
RE: [Catalyst] Windows Deployment
Hi Tadhg, I can assure you the wiki IIS / Catalyst page is not out of date as I personally updated it just before Christmas! Were you definitely looking at the following URL? http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/deployment/iis7_fastcgi Please check that URL and let me know what part you are personally experiencing problems with and I will do my best to assist you. I have a fully functioning Catalyst 5.9 set up under ActiveState's Active Perl 5.18 on a Windows Server 2008 R2 using IIS7. I have also installed on a Windows 7 machine for local devel no problems (well ok there were, but I got it sorted!) Regards, Craig. From: Tadhg [mailto:tadhg.da...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 January 2013 12:18 To: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Subject: [Catalyst] Windows Deployment Hi All, I'm trying to deploy a simple Catalyst application for internal users, so I don't need anything fancy load balancing or proxy servers etc. My environment, Server: Windows 2003 server 32 bit Dev Client: Windows 7 64 bit Perl: 5.14.12 32 bit Catalyst: 5.90018 I've had a look at the deployment page on the Catalyst Wiki, which gives a good indication of what sould work (though I think some of it may be out of date). Each option I try leads to a roadblock, so I start down a new path with the same result. My no doubt misguided impressions are, Nginx/Lighttpd have limited win support, Acache is difficult and so not recommended and IIS needs Apache and FastCGI and is therefore doubly complex. What I'd like is somebody to tell me what they have working on windows, or even better what the best/least painful solution is? If appropriate I'll then update/extend the wiki. Thanks, Tadhg Win-Noob This Email and any attachments contain confidential information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. If this Email has been misdirected, please notify the author as soon as possible. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on any of the information contained, and all copies must be deleted immediately. Whilst we take reasonable steps to try to identify any software viruses, any attachments to this e-mail may nevertheless contain viruses, which our anti-virus software has failed to identify. You should therefore carry out your own anti-virus checks before opening any documents. HomeLoan Partnership will not accept any liability for damage caused by computer viruses emanating from any attachment or other document supplied with this e-mail. HomeLoan Partnership reserves the right to monitor and archive all e-mail communications through its network. No representative or employee of HomeLoan Partnership has the authority to enter into any contract on behalf of HomeLoan Partnership by email. HomeLoan Partnership is a trading name of H L Partnership Limited, registered in England and Wales with Registration Number 5011722. Registered office: 26-34 Old Street, London, EC1V 9QQ. H L Partnership Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Windows Deployment
Hi All, I’m trying to deploy a simple Catalyst application for internal users, so I don’t need anything fancy load balancing or proxy servers etc. My environment, Server: Windows 2003 server 32 bit Dev Client: Windows 7 64 bit Perl: 5.14.12 32 bit Catalyst: 5.90018 I’ve had a look at the deployment page on the Catalyst Wiki, which gives a good indication of what sould work (though I think some of it may be out of date). Each option I try leads to a roadblock, so I start down a new path with the same result. My no doubt misguided impressions are, Nginx/Lighttpd have limited win support, Acache is difficult and so not recommended and IIS needs Apache and FastCGI and is therefore doubly complex. What I’d like is somebody to tell me what they have working on windows, or even better what the best/least painful solution is? If appropriate I’ll then update/extend the wiki. Thanks, Tadhg Win-Noob ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
