Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-08-01 Thread John Napiorkowski
--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst > To: "The elegant MVC web framework" > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 2:57 AM > * On Tue, Jul 29

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-08-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Tue, Jul 29 2008, John Beppu wrote: > Now that composition and embedding of web apps is becoming a reality, we have > to start anticipating needs like this. For example, the documentation for an > app that's built to be embedded could state that: Expectations suck. Use Ernst, tag your attri

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-31 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:02:08PM +0100, Ash Berlin wrote: > > On 30 Jul 2008, at 02:27, John Beppu wrote: > > > > > > >On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Daniel McBrearty > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >my 0.05 (possibly a bit OT) : > > > >Off-topic or not, I think these are interesting and va

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-30 Thread John Napiorkowski
--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bruce Keeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bruce Keeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst > To: "The elegant MVC web framework" > Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 3:38 PM > Daniel McBrearty wr

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-30 Thread Bruce Keeler
Daniel McBrearty wrote: The usual way to make things like this work is by having a standardised api. In the case of membership for a website, it might look something like: get_unique_user_id # of logged in user get_username_for_id( id ) Then if a forum has tables such as: thread -> references

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-30 Thread Daniel McBrearty
The usual way to make things like this work is by having a standardised api. In the case of membership for a website, it might look something like: get_unique_user_id # of logged in user get_username_for_id( id ) Then if a forum has tables such as: thread -> references username post -> ditto an

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-30 Thread John Napiorkowski
--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Ash Berlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ash Berlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst > To: "The elegant MVC web framework" > Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 7:02 AM > On 30 Jul 2008, at 02:27, Jo

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-30 Thread Ash Berlin
On 30 Jul 2008, at 02:27, John Beppu wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Daniel McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: my 0.05 (possibly a bit OT) : Off-topic or not, I think these are interesting and valid questions. I looked previously at a few ways of adding forums etc to the site u

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-30 Thread Matt S Trout
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:08:21PM +0100, Chisel Wright wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:21:10PM +0200, Daniel McBrearty wrote: > > 1. letting users keep existing member and login creds > > 2. being able to cross ref to other parts of the site eg. for a > > certain node, easily have a "discussio

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-29 Thread John Beppu
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Daniel McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > my 0.05 (possibly a bit OT) : Off-topic or not, I think these are interesting and valid questions. > I looked previously at a few ways of adding forums etc to the site > using 3rd party code, indeed there are many

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel McBrearty
I've been meaning to dig into the everything2 code (which powers perlmonks I think, amongst other things ..) and see how they do the cross ref stuff. They seem to have a pretty nice "node" abstraction which is the core of the problem, I think. the membership stuff relies on a common API, I guess.

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-29 Thread Chisel Wright
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:21:10PM +0200, Daniel McBrearty wrote: > 1. letting users keep existing member and login creds > 2. being able to cross ref to other parts of the site eg. for a > certain node, easily have a "discussion" link, and the reverse link > from the forum If you ever think of a

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel McBrearty
my 0.05 (possibly a bit OT) : I looked previously at a few ways of adding forums etc to the site using 3rd party code, indeed there are many possibilites (some perl, some not) The thing that was always a sticker for me was getting some kind of logical integration, ie: 1. letting users keep exist

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-29 Thread Matt S Trout
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 09:36:44PM -0700, John Beppu wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Matt S Trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:27:27AM -0700, John Beppu wrote: > > > > > > > Imagine if you could install a blog, a wiki, a forum, or a store just as > > > easil

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-28 Thread John Beppu
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Matt S Trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:27:27AM -0700, John Beppu wrote: > > > > Imagine if you could install a blog, a wiki, a forum, or a store just as > > easily. > > Yeah, we'll be doing that for arbitrary Catalyst components for 5.8

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-28 Thread Devin Austin
I'd like to express my interest in this project as well, kick ass! -Devin On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM, John Beppu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *Squatting::On::Catalyst* > > Squatting is a web microframework for Perl that's based on Camping from the > Ruby world. During the transition from R

Re: [Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-28 Thread Matt S Trout
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:27:27AM -0700, John Beppu wrote: > *Squatting::On::Catalyst* > > Squatting is a web microframework for Perl that's based on Camping from the > Ruby world. During the transition from Ruby to Perl, Squatting gained some > mutant powers which is why I'm writing to you toda

[Catalyst] Squatting::On::Catalyst

2008-07-28 Thread John Beppu
*Squatting::On::Catalyst* Squatting is a web microframework for Perl that's based on Camping from the Ruby world. During the transition from Ruby to Perl, Squatting gained some mutant powers which is why I'm writing to you today. One of Squatting's mutant powers is its ability to embed itself in