Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?

2011-11-03 Thread Aaron Trevena
On 24 October 2011 10:31, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Should I take a look at something like Magento? - Or keep to Perl
 stuff like Catalyst?

 (note I am currently a good C++ coder, and can code C and Python)

Look at Mango and Handel, both on cpan (and github iirc) - they are a
good foundation to build on, and could do with somebody picking up the
baton.

Mango is a f/w that extends/buildson/forks Handel, and they're both
Catalyst - they're aren't a drop in and go solution and I'm not even
sure they're finished, but when I was spec'ing out a large e-commerce
project for a freelance client they appeared from my reading through
the author's blogs and the code itself to do the lions share of heavy
lifting.

A.

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Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?

2011-10-24 Thread Zbigniew Łukasiak
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good afternoon,

 I'm looking at all the notable CMSs and web-frameworks across any
 language (C++, Ruby, Python, Perl, .NET, PHP), for an e-commerce
 solution which suits my project.

 Basically I'm creating an e-commerce store of e-commerce stores. So
 for all e-commerce stores integrated with this system, there is a
 shared user database and shopping cart integrated with PayPal (but
 preferably multiple payment gateways).


This is the kind of setup that I had in mind when I started the
experiments in subclassing applications.  I wrote my own framework for
this - but the idea is general - you have some base code with base
templates and base static files - and then for each individual site
you subclass it and gradually change whatever is needed.  It quickly
gets rather complicated - but I am convinced that it can work.

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Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?

2011-10-24 Thread Alec Taylor
Mmm... I'm sure it's possible in any language (albeit
difficult+complicated)... the question is, how can I cut down devel
time?

(happy to use any language with any open-source web-development
framework or CMS)

Should I take a look at something like Magento? - Or keep to Perl
stuff like Catalyst?

(note I am currently a good C++ coder, and can code C and Python)

2011/10/24 Zbigniew Łukasiak zzb...@gmail.com:
 On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good afternoon,

 I'm looking at all the notable CMSs and web-frameworks across any
 language (C++, Ruby, Python, Perl, .NET, PHP), for an e-commerce
 solution which suits my project.

 Basically I'm creating an e-commerce store of e-commerce stores. So
 for all e-commerce stores integrated with this system, there is a
 shared user database and shopping cart integrated with PayPal (but
 preferably multiple payment gateways).


 This is the kind of setup that I had in mind when I started the
 experiments in subclassing applications.  I wrote my own framework for
 this - but the idea is general - you have some base code with base
 templates and base static files - and then for each individual site
 you subclass it and gradually change whatever is needed.  It quickly
 gets rather complicated - but I am convinced that it can work.

 --
 Zbigniew Lukasiak
 http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
 http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?

2011-10-23 Thread Kieren Diment




On 23/10/2011, at 21:54, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good afternoon,
 
 I'm looking at all the notable CMSs and web-frameworks across any
 language (C++, Ruby, Python, Perl, .NET, PHP), for an e-commerce
 solution which suits my project.
 
 Basically I'm creating an e-commerce store of e-commerce stores. So
 for all e-commerce stores integrated with this system, there is a
 shared user database and shopping cart integrated with PayPal (but
 preferably multiple payment gateways).

Your explanation lacks clarity.  However catalyst is extraordinarily useful for 
systems integration, and has been used extensively for such in business, 
education, media and government sectors. 

 
 Would Catalyst be a good choice for developing this project?
 
 i.e. are there many predone components for this kind of thing which
 can be utilised to speedup development time?

If you want something like oscommerce or zencart then no. If you want libraries 
which you glue together by hand for your own specialist purposes, then yes. 

 
 Also, is Catalyst scalable enough for a system of this sort, or should
 I pick a competitor?

Catalyst is designed to scale. Your bottleneck here will not be catalyst, or 
hardware. It will be your access to good programmers. 

 
 Thanks for all suggestions,
 
 Alec Taylor
 
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Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?

2011-10-23 Thread Matthias Dietrich
Hi,

I'd second the answer from Kieren except:

Am 23.10.2011 um 13:23 schrieb Kieren Diment:

 Catalyst is designed to scale. Your bottleneck here will not be catalyst, or 
 hardware. It will be your access to good programmers.

I'd like to clarify that: access to good programmers that are available.

There are many programmers knowing Catalyst out there but all known to me are 
either bound to projects or employed at a company (this is a general issue with 
Perl programmers).  However, I found that good programmers can easily learn how 
to write good applications with Perl and Catalyst, thanks to many tutorials, 
documentation, mailing lists and irc channels.  There are plenty of people to 
help out!

Matthias

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