Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?
On 24 October 2011 10:31, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Should I take a look at something like Magento? - Or keep to Perl stuff like Catalyst? (note I am currently a good C++ coder, and can code C and Python) Look at Mango and Handel, both on cpan (and github iirc) - they are a good foundation to build on, and could do with somebody picking up the baton. Mango is a f/w that extends/buildson/forks Handel, and they're both Catalyst - they're aren't a drop in and go solution and I'm not even sure they're finished, but when I was spec'ing out a large e-commerce project for a freelance client they appeared from my reading through the author's blogs and the code itself to do the lions share of heavy lifting. A. -- Aaron J Trevena, BSc Hons http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk LAMP System Integration, Development and Consulting ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I'm looking at all the notable CMSs and web-frameworks across any language (C++, Ruby, Python, Perl, .NET, PHP), for an e-commerce solution which suits my project. Basically I'm creating an e-commerce store of e-commerce stores. So for all e-commerce stores integrated with this system, there is a shared user database and shopping cart integrated with PayPal (but preferably multiple payment gateways). This is the kind of setup that I had in mind when I started the experiments in subclassing applications. I wrote my own framework for this - but the idea is general - you have some base code with base templates and base static files - and then for each individual site you subclass it and gradually change whatever is needed. It quickly gets rather complicated - but I am convinced that it can work. -- Zbigniew Lukasiak http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/ http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?
Mmm... I'm sure it's possible in any language (albeit difficult+complicated)... the question is, how can I cut down devel time? (happy to use any language with any open-source web-development framework or CMS) Should I take a look at something like Magento? - Or keep to Perl stuff like Catalyst? (note I am currently a good C++ coder, and can code C and Python) 2011/10/24 Zbigniew Łukasiak zzb...@gmail.com: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I'm looking at all the notable CMSs and web-frameworks across any language (C++, Ruby, Python, Perl, .NET, PHP), for an e-commerce solution which suits my project. Basically I'm creating an e-commerce store of e-commerce stores. So for all e-commerce stores integrated with this system, there is a shared user database and shopping cart integrated with PayPal (but preferably multiple payment gateways). This is the kind of setup that I had in mind when I started the experiments in subclassing applications. I wrote my own framework for this - but the idea is general - you have some base code with base templates and base static files - and then for each individual site you subclass it and gradually change whatever is needed. It quickly gets rather complicated - but I am convinced that it can work. -- Zbigniew Lukasiak http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/ http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?
On 23/10/2011, at 21:54, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I'm looking at all the notable CMSs and web-frameworks across any language (C++, Ruby, Python, Perl, .NET, PHP), for an e-commerce solution which suits my project. Basically I'm creating an e-commerce store of e-commerce stores. So for all e-commerce stores integrated with this system, there is a shared user database and shopping cart integrated with PayPal (but preferably multiple payment gateways). Your explanation lacks clarity. However catalyst is extraordinarily useful for systems integration, and has been used extensively for such in business, education, media and government sectors. Would Catalyst be a good choice for developing this project? i.e. are there many predone components for this kind of thing which can be utilised to speedup development time? If you want something like oscommerce or zencart then no. If you want libraries which you glue together by hand for your own specialist purposes, then yes. Also, is Catalyst scalable enough for a system of this sort, or should I pick a competitor? Catalyst is designed to scale. Your bottleneck here will not be catalyst, or hardware. It will be your access to good programmers. Thanks for all suggestions, Alec Taylor ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst for large-scale e-commerce: A good or bad choice?
Hi, I'd second the answer from Kieren except: Am 23.10.2011 um 13:23 schrieb Kieren Diment: Catalyst is designed to scale. Your bottleneck here will not be catalyst, or hardware. It will be your access to good programmers. I'd like to clarify that: access to good programmers that are available. There are many programmers knowing Catalyst out there but all known to me are either bound to projects or employed at a company (this is a general issue with Perl programmers). However, I found that good programmers can easily learn how to write good applications with Perl and Catalyst, thanks to many tutorials, documentation, mailing lists and irc channels. There are plenty of people to help out! Matthias -- rainboxx Software Engineering Matthias Dietrich rainboxx Matthias Dietrich | Phone: +49 7141 / 2 39 14 71 Königsallee 43 | Fax : +49 3222 / 1 47 63 00 71638 Ludwigsburg| Mobil: +49 151 / 50 60 78 64 | WWW : http://www.rainboxx.de CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/~mdietrich/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Matthias_Dietrich18 GULP: http://www.gulp.de/profil/rainboxx.html ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/