Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Anne Clark
Maybe this is relevant: another effect that strengthens the anti-predation function of a herd is the "confusion effect" of many similar animals milling quickly about so the predator cannot fasten on any one. This is easy to demonstrate with a computer simulation and one reason that strong sex

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Geo Kloppel
Hi Wesley, you wrote: > I'd actually expect the opposite: something that's called a "selfish herd" > effect, where the larger the group, the less likely that you'll be depredated > because by chance alone you're far less likely to be killed by the small > number of predators in the area if you'

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread david nicosia
I agree. I had 150 or so last Wednesday at my feeders. Now I have  none! Feeders are full! From: Christopher Wood To: Geo Kloppel Cc: cayugabirds-l Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute I also

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Bill Evans
In the last week of Dec and on the CBC count day, I carried out a number of stationary counts from a parking lot at IC to see what was moving in the mornings. There was regular southbound passage of redpoll flocks, at least in the first two hours of daylight. For example, on Jan 1 I had three

RE: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Wesley M Hochachka
Christopher Wood Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 10:17 AM To: geoklop...@gmail.com Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute I also think that many of these redpolls are still actively moving. These birds may have come in, fed briefly and then taken off for some plac

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Geo Kloppel
Chris Wood wrote: > I also think that many of these redpolls are still actively moving. No doubt. After having 75-100 at my feeders for a number of days running, yesterday I suddenly had 200. And today I'm back to the smaller numbers. Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding

RE: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Marie P Read
7014?mt=11 From: bounce-72567911-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72567911-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Christopher Wood [chris.w...@cornell.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 10:16 AM To: geoklop...@gmail.com Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Wood
I also think that many of these redpolls are still actively moving. These birds may have come in, fed briefly and then taken off for some place a hundred miles away. While we often think of migration being in May and September, there probably isn't a single month of the year where at least some ind

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Eben McLane
This is from the BNA article on Carolina Chickadees, supporting Geo's observation: Winter flocks move horizontally at an average rate of 6 m/min, with a daily pattern of rapid movement in early morning (07:00–10:00: 8 m/min) and in late afternoon until roosting (15:00–19:00: 7 m/min), with slowe

Re: [cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Geo Kloppel
Hi Laura, When gathered in large flocks they actually strike me as being _more_ skittish; perhaps it's a compounding effect. Makes sense in a way. There may be no predator around at the moment, but they know that by concentrating at a rich food source in a landscape of scarcity they create a m

[cayugabirds-l] 100+ Redpolls-for a minute

2013-01-09 Thread Laura Stenzler
Hi, This morning there was a flock of at least 100 Redpolls in the trees near our feeders. A few were at the feeders, but after sticking around for a few minutes they alldisappeared. Here's a question - why would they leave a rich food source? Our feeders are full, there are 7 to choose from,