[cayugabirds-l] K-M shorebird walk, meet MNWR VC 7am Saturday
I don't know what shorebirds will be there. I do know migration is happening. I don't know the leader. I do know it's a great opportunity to get out on the dikes at Knox-Marsellus and see cool birds. Meet at the Montezuma NWR visitor center at 7am, and presumably at the East Road overlook around 7:15. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] K-M shorebird walk, meet MNWR VC 7am Saturday
Thanks Dave! Two questions. Dave when you get the opportunity, could you address the issue with your posts on the listserve. They always show up as unintelligible computereeze and it's very frustrating because I'd really love to hear what you have to say. PLEASE don't take this as a put-down. You have LOTS to offer and I'd like to be able to see what you're saying Thanks for considering AND understanding. Secondly, is there anyone out there who could point me to a person who could come to speak to our northern Finger Lakes birding group (Eaton Birding Society)(meetings are in Geneva, N.Y.) about the effects of climate change on bird migration? Thanks Pete Saracino Ed.D. On 8/28/2015 4:51 AM, Dave Nutter wrote: I don't know what shorebirds will be there. I do know migration is happening. I don't know the leader. I do know it's a great opportunity to get out on the dikes at Knox-Marsellus and see cool birds. Meet at the Montezuma NWR visitor center at 7am, and presumably at the East Road overlook around 7:15. --Dave Nutter -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6125 / Virus Database: 4409/10526 - Release Date: 08/27/15 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] K-M shorebird walk, meet MNWR VC 7am Saturday
Dear folks: Perhaps there is a misunderstanding due to the word(s) I used in my previous email. When I go online to the American Birding Association site and choose the Birdingnews tab it populates a list of clubs around the country. From that list I choose the New York Cayuga entry and it populates, by date, posts that folks have made. Whenever I try to choose Dave's post it doesn't show any post one can read.all that it shows is a whole bunch of unintelligible technical-looking words (hence my use of the word computereeze. And I am not alone in this problem...a number of others have told me they are in the same predicament. I'm sure it is nothing Dave is doing on purpose...perhaps there is some glitch with his posts. I do not experience this problem with any other posts on the site other than Dave's. I hope that clarifies the issue for all, and apologize if I caused confusion among the ranks of my fellow birders. Pete Saracino -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Salt Point
Two highlights of Salt Point this morning were a Blue-Gray Gnatcatcher and a Wilson's Warbler. Sent from my iPad -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] OT: computereeze messages from me
To Pete, To the few (I hope) others who receive my CayugaBirds postings garbled, To anyone who knows someone in that situation and is willing to forward this info to them, and To anyone who understands and/or is willing to fix the problem: I have heard before that a few people in some situations only get garble from me via CayugaBirds-L. Others obviously are able to read the messages perfectly well, so these people do not understand the issue. Although I like to think of myself as a pretty good birder and writer, I am not a technical computer person. I know that what I type shows up on my keyboard with only the usual number of typos. When I send it, it gets communicated and transformed numerous times by my software, then by my internet service, then by Cornell's lyris system of listservs, then in Pete's case by the ABA's collection of CayugaBirds-L postings, then by whatever internet sevice you use, by whatever device you are receiving it on and the software it uses. All of these were designed by good but flawed people working for good but flawed companies who sort of care about you and me in a general way, but not specifically enough to have solved this problem yet. Or maybe they deliberately created the problem because it made something else more convenient, because it doesn't affect enough people who make enough noise yet. The system works for most people, and what I receive looks as good to me as when I sent it out. Yet something deep on my end of the chain is incompatible with something deep on your end if it doesn't work for you. It doesn't seem to be a Cornell problem necessarily. Rather it seems to be how somebody else is handling messages from Cornell and getting them to you. Is it possible that I could change something and make it better for you? Probably, since other people are able to send messages which don't arrive to you garbled. However, I have neither the expertise to diagnose the problem, nor the money to buy new stuff, nor the desire to change an email and record-keeping system that mostly works for me. Sorry. Of course you can wait hopefully until my system irrevocably crashes or is made incompatible with the rest of the world I care about. Then I will have to buy something new, which may or may not work better. Would Cornell be able to figure out and solve the problem? Doubtless they have experts, but their service mostly works for their actual subscribers (which seems not to directly include you), so they may not be interested, but one could ask. You could start with the CayugaBirds-L manager Chris Tessaglia-Hymes (cth4 at cornell dot edu) and see what he says or who he connects you with. For a head start I copied this email to him. Maybe the ABA folks should be asked what they are doing to my posts. It seems pretty irresponsible of them to garble or delete my messages while claiming they are providing a record. Perhaps you could try something other than the ABA's service. For instance, at the bottom of every CayugaBirds-L post there is a link to ARCHIVES. Choice #1 works for me, but of course that proves nothing because I never had a problem reading my posts. Anyway how about looking here: http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html I hope this direct email to you works, and I hope to see you tomorrow at Knox-Marsellus. --Dave Nutter On Aug 28, 2015, at 04:15 PM, Asher Hockett veery...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at the ABA posts taken from CayugaBirds. Dave Nutter's show header information and the content appears to be lacking. I doubt this has anything to do with his posting, but rather something which happens when ABA lifts the CB data. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Peter psara...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Dear folks: Perhaps there is a misunderstanding due to the word(s) I used in my previous email. When I go online to the American Birding Association site and choose the Birdingnews tab it populates a list of clubs around the country. From that list I choose the New York Cayuga entry and it populates, by date, posts that folks have made. Whenever I try to choose Dave's post it doesn't show any post one can read.all that it shows is a whole bunch of unintelligible technical-looking words (hence my use of the word computereeze. And I am not alone in this problem...a number of others have told me they are in the same predicament. I'm sure it is nothing Dave is doing on purpose...perhaps there is some glitch with his posts. I do not experience this problem with any other posts on the site other than Dave's. I hope that clarifies the issue for all, and apologize if I caused confusion among the ranks of my fellow birders. Pete Saracino -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES
Re: [cayugabirds-l] K-M shorebird walk, meet MNWR VC 7am Saturday
The other two archive links in the list's email signature... ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html ... both seem to show Dave's emails fine, which suggests it's an ABA issue, so I'd ask them to resolve it. Meanwhile, you can use one of the other two links. PS. link #3 above is now stale and should be updated :-D. Suan -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] K-M shorebird walk, meet MNWR VC 7am Saturday
I looked at the ABA posts taken from CayugaBirds. Dave Nutter's show header information and the content appears to be lacking. I doubt this has anything to do with his posting, but rather something which happens when ABA lifts the CB data. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Peter psara...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Dear folks: Perhaps there is a misunderstanding due to the word(s) I used in my previous email. When I go online to the American Birding Association site and choose the Birdingnews tab it populates a list of clubs around the country. From that list I choose the New York Cayuga entry and it populates, by date, posts that folks have made. Whenever I try to choose Dave's post it doesn't show any post one can read.all that it shows is a whole bunch of unintelligible technical-looking words (hence my use of the word computereeze. And I am not alone in this problem...a number of others have told me they are in the same predicament. I'm sure it is nothing Dave is doing on purpose...perhaps there is some glitch with his posts. I do not experience this problem with any other posts on the site other than Dave's. I hope that clarifies the issue for all, and apologize if I caused confusion among the ranks of my fellow birders. Pete Saracino -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- asher -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] OT: computereeze messages from me
Thanks for the reply Dave. Very much appreciated. As I said in my post, I know no one is doing anything on purpose. And to further aggravate the situation, when someone who IS able to read your posts places a reply to them, I can THEN read your initial post in the other person's reply???!!!??? Go figure (smile) Anyway, as I also said, a number of others have voiced the same issue but, from the sounds of it, it seems to difficult a task to even troubleshoot the cause of the issue so I am content to leave it as it is. Again thanks for your response and I look forward to birding with you in the days, months and years to come. You are a very valuable asset to we birders of the Finger Lakes Regions, and I appreciate your presence in our midst. Be well Dave. Pete On 8/28/2015 7:27 PM, Dave Nutter wrote: To Pete, To the few (I hope) others who receive my CayugaBirds postings garbled, To anyone who knows someone in that situation and is willing to forward this info to them, and To anyone who understands and/or is willing to fix the problem: I have heard before that a few people in some situations only get garble from me via CayugaBirds-L. Others obviously are able to read the messages perfectly well, so these people do not understand the issue. Although I like to think of myself as a pretty good birder and writer, I am not a technical computer person. I know that what I type shows up on my keyboard with only the usual number of typos. When I send it, it gets communicated and transformed numerous times by my software, then by my internet service, then by Cornell's lyris system of listservs, then in Pete's case by the ABA's collection of CayugaBirds-L postings, then by whatever internet sevice you use, by whatever device you are receiving it on and the software it uses. All of these were designed by good but flawed people working for good but flawed companies who sort of care about you and me in a general way, but not specifically enough to have solved this problem yet. Or maybe they deliberately created the problem because it made something else more convenient, because it doesn't affect enough people who make enough noise yet. The system works for most people, and what I receive looks as good to me as when I sent it out. Yet something deep on my end of the chain is incompatible with something deep on your end if it doesn't work for you. It doesn't seem to be a Cornell problem necessarily. Rather it seems to be how somebody else is handling messages from Cornell and getting them to you. Is it possible that I could change something and make it better for you? Probably, since other people are able to send messages which don't arrive to you garbled. However, I have neither the expertise to diagnose the problem, nor the money to buy new stuff, nor the desire to change an email and record-keeping system that mostly works for me. Sorry. Of course you can wait hopefully until my system irrevocably crashes or is made incompatible with the rest of the world I care about. Then I will have to buy something new, which may or may not work better. Would Cornell be able to figure out and solve the problem? Doubtless they have experts, but their service mostly works for their actual subscribers (which seems not to directly include you), so they may not be interested, but one could ask. You could start with the CayugaBirds-L manager Chris Tessaglia-Hymes (cth4 at cornell dot edu) and see what he says or who he connects you with. For a head start I copied this email to him. Maybe the ABA folks should be asked what they are doing to my posts. It seems pretty irresponsible of them to garble or delete my messages while claiming they are providing a record. Perhaps you could try something other than the ABA's service. For instance, at the bottom of every CayugaBirds-L post there is a link to ARCHIVES. Choice #1 works for me, but of course that proves nothing because I never had a problem reading my posts. Anyway how about looking here: http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html I hope this direct email to you works, and I hope to see you tomorrow at Knox-Marsellus. --Dave Nutter On Aug 28, 2015, at 04:15 PM, Asher Hockett veery...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at the ABA posts taken from CayugaBirds. Dave Nutter's show header information and the content appears to be lacking. I doubt this has anything to do with his posting, but rather something which happens when ABA lifts the CB data. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Peter psara...@rochester.rr.com mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Dear folks: Perhaps there is a misunderstanding due to the word(s) I used in my previous email. When I go online to the American Birding Association site and choose the Birdingnews tab it populates a list of clubs around the country. From that list I