Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

2014-12-12 Thread Mo Barger Rooster Hill Farm
Not sure where you are on S Danby but I strongly agree! We have property on
Dry Brook Rd and the raven population is very large around there. As well
as barred owls and in the summer, RS Hawks.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Asher Hockett veery...@gmail.com wrote:

 In my neighborhood on S Danby Rd, we have a fair number of Ravens. More
 often than not we hear them but do not see them, and the range of sounds
 they produce is truly staggering. This year I have heard at least 4
 vocalizations which were new to me.

 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu wrote:

 Speaking of ravens, few days ago while waiting for the bus along Snyder
 Hill Rd. two ravens flew by. I noticed them when one vocalized, making a
 sound my neighbor described as a Star Wars light saber sort of sound,
 before reverting to the normal raven croaking. Sorry I don’t have a better
 description, but I was wondering if that is one of their known
 vocalizations? I don’t remember ever hearing it before.

  Ray



 On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Clara MacCarald cmm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm looking for raven stories for an article in the Finger Lakes
 Community Newspapers. I had a nice conversation with Kevin McGowan about
 the local population, but I'd like to include some anecdotes from other
 birders. If you'd like to tell me about ravens, please contact me off list.

 Any help is appreciated. Even if you only ever see crows and hear ravens,
 that would be interesting. Or if you found Kevin's video, Caw vs. Croak,
 helpful.

 Thanks in advance,
 Clara MacCarald

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Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

2014-12-12 Thread Linda Orkin

 
 Clara, I also wondered how detailed you wanted Raven stories to be.  I often 
 take my dog walking in the woods up by the overlooks at Taughannock and 
 Ravens nest in that gorge. One of my delights is hearing them calling to each 
 other as they fly along the river.  One day one was stationary in a tree and 
 doing many different calls, all Raven sounding but with the variability of 
 crows with lots of vocalizations. Another time I was walking along the edge 
 and a Raven flew below me and I realized how huge they are.  According to 
 some numbers I have read they are close to a Red-tailed Hawk size.  And then 
 another day I was driving back down rt 89 and an crow was in furious pursuit 
 of a Raven (they will mob and chase them the same way they do hawks) and they 
 were both kind of flying diving straight at  me and the contrast in size and 
 power was so evident.  The Crow was about half the size and looked puny.  
 When you hear them in the sky you immediately seize on that as a magic 
 moment.  
 
 Nice talking to you this morning.
 
 Linda
 
 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Clara MacCarald cmm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm looking for raven stories for an article in the Finger Lakes Community 
 Newspapers. I had a nice conversation with Kevin McGowan about the local 
 population, but I'd like to include some anecdotes from other birders. If 
 you'd like to tell me about ravens, please contact me off list.
 
 Any help is appreciated. Even if you only ever see crows and hear ravens, 
 that would be interesting. Or if you found Kevin's video, Caw vs. Croak, 
 helpful.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Clara MacCarald
 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

2014-12-12 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
Ravens can be bigger than Red-tailed Hawks.  See 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YXdbztCICccQudIkBI868dMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink.

Best,

Kevin

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[mailto:bounce-118619359-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Orkin
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 8:19 AM
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Clara, I also wondered how detailed you wanted Raven stories to be.  I often 
take my dog walking in the woods up by the overlooks at Taughannock and Ravens 
nest in that gorge. One of my delights is hearing them calling to each other as 
they fly along the river.  One day one was stationary in a tree and doing many 
different calls, all Raven sounding but with the variability of crows with lots 
of vocalizations. Another time I was walking along the edge and a Raven flew 
below me and I realized how huge they are.  According to some numbers I have 
read they are close to a Red-tailed Hawk size.  And then another day I was 
driving back down rt 89 and an crow was in furious pursuit of a Raven (they 
will mob and chase them the same way they do hawks) and they were both kind of 
flying diving straight at  me and the contrast in size and power was so 
evident.  The Crow was about half the size and looked puny.  When you hear them 
in the sky you immediately seize on that as a magic moment.

Nice talking to you this morning.
Linda

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cmm...@gmail.commailto:cmm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

I'm looking for raven stories for an article in the Finger Lakes Community 
Newspapers. I had a nice conversation with Kevin McGowan about the local 
population, but I'd like to include some anecdotes from other birders. If you'd 
like to tell me about ravens, please contact me off list.

Any help is appreciated. Even if you only ever see crows and hear ravens, that 
would be interesting. Or if you found Kevin's video, Caw vs. Croak, helpful.

Thanks in advance,
Clara MacCarald

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

2014-12-12 Thread Rob Blye
Clara, 

I was a wildlife science major at Cornell from 1968-1972. I spent much time 
outside birding, hunting, fishing and taking courses all over the southern tier 
of upstate NY. I do not recall seeing a raven anywhere in the southern tier 
during my tenure at Cornell. I probably saw or heard ravens in the Adirondacks 
but do not affirmatively remember. 

I spent my career working as a fish and wildlife biologist consulting to the 
utility industry, for the most part. As an aside, the company I worked for 
initially, Ichthyological Associates, Inc. (and ultimately retired from a 
successor to IA), was started by Dr. Edward C. Raney, who mostly hired his 
students to staff projects around the eastern US. 

Many, many years later, in the fall of 2004, I was on a project at a proposed 
wind power site near Hornby NY, about half way between Corning and Watkins 
Glen. We had been hired to monitor raptor, songbird and waterfowl migration as 
part of the permitting and impact assessment process for a utility scale wind 
energy project. I spent many days looking at a mostly empty field where the 
monitoring site was located. I recall that I did not see a single migrating 
raptor during many days of observation. 

However I did observe resident red-tailed hawks, northern harriers and common 
ravens on a daily basis. One day I was watching an adult harrier coursing over 
the fields hunting. I was enjoying the harrier show when a single raven showed 
up and took up an aerial position behind and slightly higher than the harrier. 
The raven mimicked every move that the harrier made until the harrier turned 
over in the air and struck at the raven with its talons. The raven hopped up in 
the air, dropped back a few feet as the harrier righted itself and continued 
flying low over the field. As soon as the harrier resumed hunting, the raven 
resumed its mimicking flight until again the harrier struck at the raven. This 
process continued for about 20 min. I could usually see the birds naked eye but 
I also had binoculars and a scope. I watched in amazement as the aerial show 
went on for about 20 minutes. Finally the raven moved off and the harrier flew 
to another field. 

I speculated then, and now, as to why the raven mimicked the harrier. Was it 
planning to steal a mouse from the harrier? Was it simply demonstrating its 
flying prowess to the harrier and itself? Was it playing? I like to believe 
that the behavior was play with the potential benefit of a stolen meal. 

One thing for certain is that the raven was every bit as light in the air and 
accomplished a flyer as was the harrier. And we all know that harriers appear 
magical in the way that they soar, flutter, kite and drop to the ground on 
wings a buoyant as a helium-filled balloon. 

Rob Blye 


Robert W. Blye 
300 Sanatoga Road 
Pottstown, PA 19465-7985 
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From: Asher Hockett veery...@gmail.com 
To: Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu 
Cc: cayugabirds-l Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:35:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry 

In my neighborhood on S Danby Rd, we have a fair number of Ravens. More often 
than not we hear them but do not see them, and the range of sounds they produce 
is truly staggering. This year I have heard at least 4 vocalizations which were 
new to me. 

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Ray Zimmerman  r...@cornell.edu  wrote: 



Speaking of ravens, few days ago while waiting for the bus along Snyder Hill 
Rd. two ravens flew by. I noticed them when one vocalized, making a sound my 
neighbor described as a Star Wars light saber sort of sound, before reverting 
to the normal raven croaking. Sorry I don’t have a better description, but I 
was wondering if that is one of their known vocalizations? I don’t remember 
ever hearing it before. 

Ray 




blockquote

On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Clara MacCarald  cmm...@gmail.com  wrote: 

Hi all, 

I'm looking for raven stories for an article in the Finger Lakes Community 
Newspapers. I had a nice conversation with Kevin McGowan about the local 
population, but I'd like to include some anecdotes from other birders. If you'd 
like to tell me about ravens, please contact me off list. 

Any help is appreciated. Even if you only ever see crows and hear ravens, that 
would be interesting. Or if you found Kevin's video, Caw vs. Croak, helpful. 

Thanks in advance, 
Clara MacCarald 

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[cayugabirds-l] Thank you for raven help

2014-12-12 Thread Clara MacCarald
Thank you to everyone who wrote to me about their experiences with ravens.
I have submitted the article and it should come out in the Finger Lakes
Community Newspapers next week. It may be on ithaca.com as early as next
Saturday, although sometimes it takes longer for the articles to be posted
online.

Thanks again!
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[cayugabirds-l] It's sparrow Friday!

2014-12-12 Thread Mo Barger Rooster Hill Farm
Today's visitors include a few American Tree Sparrows and a pair of White
Throated Sparrows. They are not usual visitors for me here in the hills of
Candor.

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

2014-12-12 Thread Donna Scott
Kevin,

thanks for the photos comparing size of Raven with Red Tailed Hawk.  The photos 
in that same album of the LeConte’s Sparrow are wonderful! What a beautiful 
bird; the feathers on the back are striking.

Donna Scott

 

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[mailto:bounce-118619611-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin J. 
McGowan
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:17 AM
To: Linda Orkin; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

 

Ravens can be bigger than Red-tailed Hawks.  See 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YXdbztCICccQudIkBI868dMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink.

 

Best,

 

Kevin

 

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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 8:19 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Raven inquiry

 

 

 

Clara, I also wondered how detailed you wanted Raven stories to be.  I often 
take my dog walking in the woods up by the overlooks at Taughannock and Ravens 
nest in that gorge. One of my delights is hearing them calling to each other as 
they fly along the river.  One day one was stationary in a tree and doing many 
different calls, all Raven sounding but with the variability of crows with lots 
of vocalizations. Another time I was walking along the edge and a Raven flew 
below me and I realized how huge they are.  According to some numbers I have 
read they are close to a Red-tailed Hawk size.  And then another day I was 
driving back down rt 89 and an crow was in furious pursuit of a Raven (they 
will mob and chase them the same way they do hawks) and they were both kind of 
flying diving straight at  me and the contrast in size and power was so 
evident.  The Crow was about half the size and looked puny.  When you hear them 
in the sky you immediately seize on that as a magic moment.  

Nice talking to you this morning.

Linda

 

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mailto:cmm...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking for raven stories for an article in the Finger Lakes Community 
Newspapers. I had a nice conversation with Kevin McGowan about the local 
population, but I'd like to include some anecdotes from other birders. If you'd 
like to tell me about ravens, please contact me off list.

Any help is appreciated. Even if you only ever see crows and hear ravens, that 
would be interesting. Or if you found Kevin's video, Caw vs. Croak, helpful.

Thanks in advance,
Clara MacCarald

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[cayugabirds-l] Northern Gannet - Sodus Point

2014-12-12 Thread Joseph M Wing
This afternoon around 1:45 I briefly saw a non-adult Northern Gannet at Sodus 
Point. The bird showed its wings, tail, and head proportions well. Was flying
to the west, crossed the channel a bit out into the lake. I lost sight of it as
it dropped below the horizon. I went to the old light house for some better 
views
of the lake, did not see the bird from that location.

I managed to get several poor images that show some field marks that separates 
it from some similar species:


www.flickr.com/photos/66738724@N04/15384799294/




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[cayugabirds-l] Short-eared Owls and other raptors at Lake Rd. 12/12

2014-12-12 Thread John Confer
Bob and Joan Horn, Karen and John Confer


Indian Farm Rd: 1 Red-tailed Hawk, junco, tree Spa, and Horned Larks


Poplar Ridge Rd; accipiter and probable N. Harrier


Lake Rd/Long Point Winery: from ~~3:00-3:45 and primarily west or toward 
lake from winery, 1 male Am. Kestrel, 1 light phase Rough-legged Hawk attacking 
a Red-tailed Hawk, 1 imm. N. Harrier (seemed very large and probably female), 
(and wait for it) 2 Short-eared Owls around road from ~3:15 to 3:45.


For John, this was the sixth visit to the Long Point Winery area in the 
last two years and the first time seeing SEOWs.  Bob and Joan have seen four at 
a time and we compromised between my jinx and their good luck and got great 
views of 2.


Goo raptoring

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[cayugabirds-l] geese on the move

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Mcaneny
Lots of Canadas and Snows headed south in mid afternoon today. Big vees.
Fairly high up. Crossing rte 89 in vic. of Boy Scout camp, north of
Taughannock S.P.

Yesterday, about 2pm, a Cooper's hawk flew west over rte 13 and across
Wegman's pking lot.

Bill McAneny, TBurg


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] geese on the move

2014-12-12 Thread Nancy Cusumano
A good sized flock of snow and canada geese at the corner of Perry City and
Dubois Rd at 4pm. Both pahses of snow geese there and close to the road.
A Harrier flew over my car on Perry City rd just west of Rt 96.



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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Bill Mcaneny bmcane...@fltg.net wrote:

Lots of Canadas and Snows headed south in mid afternoon today. Big
 vees.  Fairly high up. Crossing rte 89 in vic. of Boy Scout camp, north of
 Taughannock S.P.

 Yesterday, about 2pm, a Cooper’s hawk flew west over rte 13 and across
 Wegman’s pking lot.

 Bill McAneny, TBurg
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[cayugabirds-l] Short eared owls

2014-12-12 Thread Marty Schlabach
Mary Jean and I had two Short eared owls near the intersection of Rock River Rd 
and Wycoff Rd in Ovid, about 4:45pm today.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Short eared owls

2014-12-12 Thread Tom
I saw one in the wing at about 1530 today, over fields just south of Aurora off 
NYS Rte 90.  I and others have seen SEOs there many times in the past over the 
years.

Has anyone seen them recently near the Evergreen Cemetery W of NYS 34B on the 
Levana Road in
Scipio?

Tom V
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 On Dec 12, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Marty Schlabach m...@cornell.edu wrote:
 
 Mary Jean and I had two Short eared owls near the intersection of Rock River 
 Rd and Wycoff Rd in Ovid, about 4:45pm today.
  
 Marty
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