[cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds?

[Sandy Wold]

I was noticing an eerie silence in my garden since this original post but
did have a few Tufted Titmouses (Titmice?) show up that day at my feeder
along with a group of chickadees and jays.  I think it is cool that feeder
birds continue to scout and forage for the "good" stuff and then probably
also communicate with others about it.  Isn't the bounty due to the amazing
rains we had this past springbut I am noticing some growth spurts on my
fruit trees now after the recent rains, when they should be dropping leaves
by now.  Freaky.


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Dave Nutter]

Possibly there is less risk of predation when birds are dispersed in cover to 
feed v. concentrated at a predictable site at feeders designed to be open 
enough on at least one side for people to observe from inside a house.
- - Dave Nutter 

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:58 AM, AB Clark  wrote:
> 
> I think it is extremely reassuring that, when the wild foods are ample, the 
> feeder-aware birds still prefer to use them.  Superior nutrition and 
> nutritional diversity, I am sure.
> 
> Anne B Clark
> 147 Hile School Rd
> Freeville, NY 13068
> 607-222-0905
> anneb.cl...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Marc Devokaitis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment from 
>> Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest Biology 
>> at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else, but this came up.)
>> 
>> "Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones but I 
>> have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak acorns, sugar 
>> maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and seeds. Interestingly, 
>> I’ve seen this above average production across the Northeast."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in decreases this 
>> year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marc Devokaitis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden  wrote:
>>> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
>>> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
>>> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird 
>>> friendly habitat
>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated 
>>> Thanks
>>> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[khmo]

While I concur with the natural foods theory we are forgetting that at
this time of year many of "our" passerines have dispersed or moved
southward to some degree. Many of our fall and winter feeder birds are
those that have bred in Canada and come south for the winter. While
that's just beginning around here, the ADK has had a growing influx.
Over the course of 31 years of banding here we determined three groups
of Black-capped Chickadees, a small year around group, another that
breeds here and moves as far south and west as Kentucky/Tennessee for
the winter and a third that breeds in Quebec and Ontario and comes here
for the winter. A few other species do the same. I'm sure everyone has
noted the huge congregate flocks of Robins that will soon move SSW while
some will remain. There is so much food up north that I have little hope
for the projections of a finchy winter here although they are all in the
ADK in nice numbers. 

Lastly, a slightly irreverent explanation from the West Side is gaining
in popularity. See <http://www.gocomics.com/closetohome/2017/10/24> 

John 

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On 2017-10-25 19:08, t...@fltg.net wrote:

> Our (mostly red) oak trees had a huge mast year two years ago, but last year 
> and this year the acorns have been at more normal production levels. Red oaks 
> have a two year cycle for acorn production - the flowers from this year are 
> next year's acorns - so it could be that 2018 will be another big year for 
> acorns in our woods.
> 
> Cones & other nuts do seem abundant wherever we look, but I assumed it was 
> because this has been the first year in several that we didn't have an 
> ill-timed cold snap or drought during a crucial part of the growing season.  
> On our property we had almost no walnuts last year & I am certain that was 
> b/c of a bad cold snap just after pollination that seemed to kill most of the 
> tiny fruit, followed by an extended period without rain later in the growing 
> season.  There have been a couple of cold/warm/cold/warm periods in early 
> spring during the past five years and several kinds of fruit and nut trees 
> were affected. Perhaps the trees have energy on hand from those years when 
> they couldn't develop fruit, and can pour that energy into extra production 
> this year?  
> 
> While cold snaps & droughts also are connected to climate change, my guess is 
> that this year's abundance had more to do with these factors rather than with 
> warming - it wasn't all that warm in central NYS this summer [1], for one 
> thing!
> 
> Alicia
> 
> P.S.  Birders on the Maine bird list have similar complaints about the 
> disappearance of their feeder birds, with similar conclusions that it likely 
> is due to unusual amounts of food in the wild. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: Betsy Darlington <darlingtonb...@gmail.com> 
> To: "Marc Devokaitis" <mdevokai...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Barbara B. Eden" <b...@cornell.edu>, "CAYUGABIRDS-L" 
> <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:47:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds
> 
> I wonder if all these trees are putting out "stress cones/seeds," caused by 
> the accelerating warming.  Or do they just like being so warm? 
> Betsy 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Marc Devokaitis <mdevokai...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment from 
> Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest Biology 
> at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else, but this came up.) 
> 
> "Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones but I 
> have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak acorns, sugar 
> maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and seeds. Interestingly, 
> I've seen this above average production across the Northeast." 
> 
> Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in decreases this 
> year. 
> 
> Marc Devokaitis 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> 
> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird 
> friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated 
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[martin borko]

There is no question about it. It has been a banner year for fruit and cone 
production!!!
marty
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:08 PM, t...@fltg.net wrote:
> 
> Our (mostly red) oak trees had a huge mast year two years ago, but last year 
> and this year the acorns have been at more normal production levels. Red oaks 
> have a two year cycle for acorn production - the flowers from this year are 
> next year's acorns - so it could be that 2018 will be another big year for 
> acorns in our woods.
> 
> Cones & other nuts do seem abundant wherever we look, but I assumed it was 
> because this has been the first year in several that we didn't have an 
> ill-timed cold snap or drought during a crucial part of the growing season.  
> On our property we had almost no walnuts last year & I am certain that was 
> b/c of a bad cold snap just after pollination that seemed to kill most of the 
> tiny fruit, followed by an extended period without rain later in the growing 
> season.  There have been a couple of cold/warm/cold/warm periods in early 
> spring during the past five years and several kinds of fruit and nut trees 
> were affected. Perhaps the trees have energy on hand from those years when 
> they couldn't develop fruit, and can pour that energy into extra production 
> this year?  
> 
> While cold snaps & droughts also are connected to climate change, my guess is 
> that this year's abundance had more to do with these factors rather than with 
> warming - it wasn't all that warm in central NYS this summer 
> <http://www.syracuse.com/weather/index.ssf/2017/08/central_ny_summer_ends_up_slightly_cooler_than_normal.html>,
>  for one thing!
> 
> Alicia
> 
> P.S.  Birders on the Maine bird list have similar complaints about the 
> disappearance of their feeder birds, with similar conclusions that it likely 
> is due to unusual amounts of food in the wild. 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> Betsy Darlington <darlingtonb...@gmail.com>
> 
> To:
> "Marc Devokaitis" <mdevokai...@gmail.com>
> Cc:
> "Barbara B. Eden" <b...@cornell.edu>, "CAYUGABIRDS-L" 
> <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> Sent:
> Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:47:44 -0400
> Subject:
> Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds
> 
> 
> I wonder if all these trees are putting out "stress cones/seeds," caused by 
> the accelerating warming.  Or do they just like being so warm?
> Betsy
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Marc Devokaitis <mdevokai...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:mdevokai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment from 
> Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest Biology 
> at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else, but this came up.)
> 
> "Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones but I 
> have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak acorns, sugar 
> maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and seeds. Interestingly, 
> I’ve seen this above average production across the Northeast."
> 
> 
> 
> Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in decreases this 
> year.
> 
> 
> 
> Marc Devokaitis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu 
> <mailto:b...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird 
> friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated 
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[tess]

Our (mostly red) oak trees had a huge mast year two years ago, but
last year and this year the acorns have been at more normal
production levels. Red oaks have a two year cycle for acorn
production - the flowers from this year are next year's acorns - so
it could be that 2018 will be another big year for acorns in our
woods.

Cones & other nuts do seem abundant wherever we look, but I assumed
it was because this has been the first year in several that we didn't
have an ill-timed cold snap or drought during a crucial part of the
growing season.  On our property we had almost no walnuts last year
& I am certain that was b/c of a bad cold snap just after pollination
that seemed to kill most of the tiny fruit, followed by an extended
period without rain later in the growing season.  There have been a
couple of cold/warm/cold/warm periods in early spring during the past
five years and several kinds of fruit and nut trees were affected.
Perhaps the trees have energy on hand from those years when they
couldn't develop fruit, and can pour that energy into extra
production this year?  

While cold snaps background:rgb(228,228,228);">From: Betsy Darlington

To:"Marc Devokaitis" 
Cc:"Barbara B. Eden" , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" 
Sent:Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:47:44 -0400
Subject:Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

I wonder if all these trees are putting out "stress cones/seeds,"
caused by the accelerating warming.  Or do they just like being so
warm?Betsy

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Marc Devokaitis  wrote:
Hi All,
Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment
from Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and
Forest Biology at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else,
but this came up.)

"Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones
but I have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak
acorns, sugar maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and
seeds. Interestingly, I’ve seen this above average production
across the Northeast."

Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in
decreases this year.

Marc Devokaitis

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden  wrote:
  For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have
dropped in population This is the first time this has happened and
even those pesky squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my
backyard is a bird friendly habitat
 Any thoughts would be appreciated 
 Thanks
 Barbara Eden

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Betsy Darlington]

I wonder if all these trees are putting out "stress cones/seeds," caused by
the accelerating warming.  Or do they just like being so warm?
Betsy

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Marc Devokaitis 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment from
> Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest
> Biology at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else, but this came
> up.)
>
> "Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones but
> I have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak acorns,
> sugar maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and seeds.
> Interestingly, I’ve seen this above average production across the
> Northeast."
>
>
> Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in decreases
> this year.
>
>
> Marc Devokaitis
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden 
> wrote:
>
>> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped
>> in population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky
>> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird
>> friendly habitat
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated
>> Thanks
>> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[AB Clark]

I think it is extremely reassuring that, when the wild foods are ample, the 
feeder-aware birds still prefer to use them.  Superior nutrition and 
nutritional diversity, I am sure.

Anne B Clark
147 Hile School Rd
Freeville, NY 13068
607-222-0905
anneb.cl...@gmail.com





> On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Marc Devokaitis  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment from 
> Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest Biology 
> at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else, but this came up.)
> 
> "Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones but I 
> have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak acorns, sugar 
> maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and seeds. Interestingly, 
> I’ve seen this above average production across the Northeast."
> 
> 
> 
> Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in decreases this 
> year.
> 
> 
> 
> Marc Devokaitis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden  > wrote:
> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird 
> friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated 
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Marc Devokaitis]

Hi All,

Re-opening this thread--I thought I'd share with the list a comment from
Donald Leopold, Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest Biology
 at SUNY-ESF (I was asking him about something else, but this came up.)

"Not only are conifers producing an extraordinary abundance of cones but I
have never seen such an abundance of walnuts, hickories, oak acorns, sugar
maple and white ash samaras, and other tree fruits and seeds.
Interestingly, I’ve seen this above average production across the
Northeast."


Hopefully this goes a long way to explaining the increase in decreases this
year.


Marc Devokaitis




On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Barbara B. Eden  wrote:

> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird
> friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Linda Madeo]

Not sure if this is related to available food, but about a week ago we had
a flock of red-winged blackbirds hanging out in the tops of our trees in
the back yard (not a huge flock, but maybe 20-30). I don't remember ever
seeing them at this time of year, but they were definitely RWBBs.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Lee Ann van Leer  wrote:

> This is the standard response *Project Feeder Watch* has been giving out.
> They are flooded with this very question at this time of year.
>
>
>
> < decline in bird populations. Although it's impossible for us to know the
> cause of each specific increase and decline, there are several common
> causes for bird population fluctuations.
>
>
>
> · The most common cause for a dramatic drop in all bird species at a
> feeder is the arrival of a predators, such as a hawk or a cat.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> · Habitat changes frequently affect bird numbers. If there has been any
> change in your neighborhood--such as trees being cut down, new houses being
> built, or different crops being planted on nearby fields--that could be the
> reason you are seeing more or less birds.
>
>
>
> · Natural food supplies--such as pine cones, berries, seeds, and
> insects--fluctuate from year to year, causing birds to shift ranges to take
> advantage of food surpluses or to compensate for food shortages.
>
>
>
> · Weather fluctuations often cause birds to shift ranges, especially in
> winter.
>
> I can't speak to what is happening in your area, but I know here in
> upstate New York, we had a very rainy summer, and the fruiting trees and
> shrubs are bursting with food this fall. If that is the case in your area
> as well, the birds are probably finding plenty of foods that they prefer
> over what they can find at feeders.
>
>
>
> Migration also varies a bit from year to year, and there may be a gap this
> year between the departure of birds that summer in your area but winter
> elsewhere and the arrival of birds that only come to your area in winter.
> Short-term fluctuations are normal and nothing to be concerned about. Once
> the weather turns cold and the natural food supplies are consumed, I am
> sure birds will be back at your feeders.>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Lee Ann van Leer
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RE:[cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Lee Ann van Leer]

This is the standard response Project Feeder Watch has been giving out. They 
are flooded with this very question at this time of year.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Anne Marie Whelan]

Plenty of birds still coming to my feeder (black-oil sunflower seeds) in
West End, Ithaca:  sparrows, chickadees, cardinals, finches, and a junco
and maybe a catbird today.  Recently blue jays, nuthatches.  Also the usual
squirrels are busy.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Melanie Uhlir <mela...@mwmu.com> wrote:

> Interesting to see that this is happening on a widespread basis. I had
> been going through mealworms, suet, and thistle seed in my feeders like
> crazy and then all of a sudden -- no birds. I figured it probably had to do
> with the abundance of wild food available. I'm glad that seems to be the
> consensus.
>
> Melanie
>
>
> On 10/18/2017 1:39 PM, Glenn Wilson wrote:
>
> Same thing in Union Center near Endicott.
>
> I was scared it may have been due to West Niles Virus. We have, however a
> good assortment of Chickadees, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Downey Hairy
> Red-bellied and Pileated as well as a resident Golden-crowned Kinglet all
> in the trees berry bushes and shorter plants with seeds.
>
> Thanks Kevin for reassuring us they will come back to the feeders!
>
> Glenn Wilson
> Endicott, NY
> www.WilsonsWarbler.com
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> This seems to be a widespread phenomenon. There is just so much food in
> the woods right now, with huge crops of seeds and fruits that the birds
> don’t need our feeders. They’ll be back.
>
>
>
> Kevin McGowan
>
>
>
> *From:* bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu [
> mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu
> <bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu>] *On Behalf Of *debby
> mcnaughton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:08 PM
> *To:* Catherine Cooke <ccooke...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu>; Donna Lee Scott <
> d...@cornell.edu>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds
>
>
>
> I live in Canandaigua and the same thong here, very few birds compared to
> last year. The sunflower seeds have been hardly touched by the few
> chickadees, nuthatch and some gold finches.
>
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2017 1:05 PM, "Catherine Cooke" <ccooke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods.
>
> I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few
> visitors.  Usually, it is empty in a few days.
>
> But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but not as
> frequently.
>
> I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.
>
>
>
> Cathy Cooke
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
>
> Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10.
>
> I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall
> harvest in plants/trees nearby.
>
>
>
> However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street.
> Mostly Blue Jays I think.
>
> Many come to my seeds on ground.
>
>
> Donna Scott
>
> Lansing
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Melanie Uhlir]

Interesting to see that this is happening on a widespread basis. I had 
been going through mealworms, suet, and thistle seed in my feeders like 
crazy and then all of a sudden -- no birds. I figured it probably had to 
do with the abundance of wild food available. I'm glad that seems to be 
the consensus.

Melanie

On 10/18/2017 1:39 PM, Glenn Wilson wrote:
> Same thing in Union Center near Endicott.
>
> I was scared it may have been due to West Niles Virus. We have, 
> however a good assortment of Chickadees, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Downey 
> Hairy Red-bellied and Pileated as well as a resident Golden-crowned 
> Kinglet all in the trees berry bushes and shorter plants with seeds.
>
> Thanks Kevin for reassuring us they will come back to the feeders!
>
> Glenn Wilson
> Endicott, NY
> www.WilsonsWarbler.com <http://www.WilsonsWarbler.com>
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu 
> <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
>
> This seems to be a widespread phenomenon. There is just so much food 
> in the woods right now, with huge crops of seeds and fruits that the 
> birds don’t need our feeders. They’ll be back.
>
> Kevin McGowan
>
> *From:*bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
> <mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu> 
> [mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of 
> *debby mcnaughton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:08 PM
> *To:* Catherine Cooke <ccooke...@gmail.com <mailto:ccooke...@gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu <mailto:b...@cornell.edu>>; 
> Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu <mailto:d...@cornell.edu>>; 
> CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu 
> <mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds
>
> I live in Canandaigua and the same thong here, very few birds compared 
> to last year. The sunflower seeds have been hardly touched by the few 
> chickadees, nuthatch and some gold finches.
>
> On Oct 18, 2017 1:05 PM, "Catherine Cooke" <ccooke...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ccooke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods.
>
> I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few
> visitors.  Usually, it is empty in a few days.
>
> But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but
> not as frequently.
>
> I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.
>
> Cathy Cooke
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott
> <d...@cornell.edu <mailto:d...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
>
> Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
>
> Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I
> usually have 10.
>
> I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds &
> nuts from fall harvest in plants/trees nearby.
>
> However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across
> street. Mostly Blue Jays I think.
>
> Many come to my seeds on ground.
>
>
> Donna Scott
>
> Lansing
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden
> <b...@cornell.edu <mailto:b...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
>
> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed
> have dropped in population This is the first time this has
> happened and even those pesky squirrels have left I live
> in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Glenn Wilson]

Same thing in Union Center near Endicott. 

I was scared it may have been due to West Niles Virus. We have, however a good 
assortment of Chickadees, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Downey Hairy Red-bellied and 
Pileated as well as a resident Golden-crowned Kinglet all in the trees berry 
bushes and shorter plants with seeds. 

Thanks Kevin for reassuring us they will come back to the feeders!

Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
www.WilsonsWarbler.com

On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu> wrote:

This seems to be a widespread phenomenon. There is just so much food in the 
woods right now, with huge crops of seeds and fruits that the birds don’t need 
our feeders. They’ll be back.
 
Kevin McGowan
 
From: bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of debby mcnaughton
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:08 PM
To: Catherine Cooke <ccooke...@gmail.com>
Cc: Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu>; Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu>; 
CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds
 
I live in Canandaigua and the same thong here, very few birds compared to last 
year. The sunflower seeds have been hardly touched by the few chickadees, 
nuthatch and some gold finches.
 
On Oct 18, 2017 1:05 PM, "Catherine Cooke" <ccooke...@gmail.com> wrote:
I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods. 
I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few visitors.  
Usually, it is empty in a few days.
But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but not as 
frequently.
I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.
 
Cathy Cooke
 
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu> wrote:
Same here on Lansing Station Rd. 
Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10. 
I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall 
harvest in plants/trees nearby. 
 
However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street. Mostly 
Blue Jays I think. 
Many come to my seeds on ground. 

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu> wrote:

For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird friendly 
habitat
Any thoughts would be appreciated 
Thanks
Barbara Eden

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Cedar trees around here are packed with ripening little blue fruits. Oddly, my 
Red Oaks don't have many acorns (didn't last year either), but hickory nuts 
(Shagbark & Pig Nut), & Black Walnuts are all over the ground.
I am waiting for Cedar Waxwings to come eat Cedar fruits!

Donna Scott
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Kevin J. McGowan 
<k...@cornell.edu<mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

This seems to be a widespread phenomenon. There is just so much food in the 
woods right now, with huge crops of seeds and fruits that the birds don’t need 
our feeders. They’ll be back.

Kevin McGowan

From: 
bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu>
 [mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of debby 
mcnaughton
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:08 PM
To: Catherine Cooke <ccooke...@gmail.com<mailto:ccooke...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Barbara B. Eden <b...@cornell.edu<mailto:b...@cornell.edu>>; Donna Lee 
Scott <d...@cornell.edu<mailto:d...@cornell.edu>>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

I live in Canandaigua and the same thong here, very few birds compared to last 
year. The sunflower seeds have been hardly touched by the few chickadees, 
nuthatch and some gold finches.

On Oct 18, 2017 1:05 PM, "Catherine Cooke" 
<ccooke...@gmail.com<mailto:ccooke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods.
I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few visitors.  
Usually, it is empty in a few days.
But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but not as 
frequently.
I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.

Cathy Cooke

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott 
<d...@cornell.edu<mailto:d...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10.
I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall 
harvest in plants/trees nearby.

However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street. Mostly 
Blue Jays I think.
Many come to my seeds on ground.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden 
<b...@cornell.edu<mailto:b...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird friendly 
habitat
Any thoughts would be appreciated
Thanks
Barbara Eden

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Theresa Joseph]

Hi,

Same here in Danby.  I was filling the feeders every day in August. For the
past month and half, every 5 days!
Maybe there's more wild food this year.
Theresa

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:10 PM Elaina M. McCartney <
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> I have noticed a dramatic drop in the squirrel population and feeder birds
> SW shore Cayuga Lake in the past two months. I like to photograph squirrels
> so I noticed. Saw one lactating female about two weeks ago, and that's it.
> Up until a couple months ago I also had flying squirrels visiting every
> night, now nothing. There's a bonanza acorn crop, so maybe the squirrels
> don't need to raid my place this year. Tube feeder stays full days longer
> than it used to. Blue Jays used to show up whenever I tossed out some seeds
> on my deck. Now the seeds sit there uneaten. I do have woodpeckers and
> Mourning Doves around the yard, and a few chipmunks.
>
> Elaina
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden  wrote:
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> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird
> friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Kevin J. McGowan]

This seems to be a widespread phenomenon. There is just so much food in the 
woods right now, with huge crops of seeds and fruits that the birds don’t need 
our feeders. They’ll be back.

Kevin McGowan

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[mailto:bounce-121960930-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of debby mcnaughton
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

I live in Canandaigua and the same thong here, very few birds compared to last 
year. The sunflower seeds have been hardly touched by the few chickadees, 
nuthatch and some gold finches.

On Oct 18, 2017 1:05 PM, "Catherine Cooke" 
<ccooke...@gmail.com<mailto:ccooke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods.
I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few visitors.  
Usually, it is empty in a few days.
But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but not as 
frequently.
I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.

Cathy Cooke

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott 
<d...@cornell.edu<mailto:d...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10.
I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall 
harvest in plants/trees nearby.

However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street. Mostly 
Blue Jays I think.
Many come to my seeds on ground.

Donna Scott
Lansing
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For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird friendly 
habitat
Any thoughts would be appreciated
Thanks
Barbara Eden

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Elaina M. McCartney]

I have noticed a dramatic drop in the squirrel population and feeder birds SW 
shore Cayuga Lake in the past two months. I like to photograph squirrels so I 
noticed. Saw one lactating female about two weeks ago, and that's it. Up until 
a couple months ago I also had flying squirrels visiting every night, now 
nothing. There's a bonanza acorn crop, so maybe the squirrels don't need to 
raid my place this year. Tube feeder stays full days longer than it used to. 
Blue Jays used to show up whenever I tossed out some seeds on my deck. Now the 
seeds sit there uneaten. I do have woodpeckers and Mourning Doves around the 
yard, and a few chipmunks.

Elaina

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> wrote:

For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird friendly 
habitat
Any thoughts would be appreciated
Thanks
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[debby mcnaughton]

I live in Canandaigua and the same thong here, very few birds compared to
last year. The sunflower seeds have been hardly touched by the few
chickadees, nuthatch and some gold finches.

On Oct 18, 2017 1:05 PM, "Catherine Cooke"  wrote:

> I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods.
> I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few
> visitors.  Usually, it is empty in a few days.
> But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but not as
> frequently.
> I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.
>
> Cathy Cooke
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott 
> wrote:
>
>> Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
>> Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10.
>> I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall
>> harvest in plants/trees nearby.
>>
>> However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street.
>> Mostly Blue Jays I think.
>> Many come to my seeds on ground.
>>
>> Donna Scott
>> Lansing
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden  wrote:
>>
>> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped
>> in population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky
>> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird
>> friendly habitat
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated
>> Thanks
>> Barbara Eden
>>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Catherine Cooke]

I notice the same thing at my apartment at North Woods.
I filled my seed feeder up a few weeks ago and have had very few visitors.
Usually, it is empty in a few days.
But the Downy Woodpeckers are still coming to my suet feeders, but not as
frequently.
I have not seen a squirrel in a long time.

Cathy Cooke

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:

> Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
> Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10.
> I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall
> harvest in plants/trees nearby.
>
> However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street.
> Mostly Blue Jays I think.
> Many come to my seeds on ground.
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Barbara B. Eden  wrote:
>
> For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in
> population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky
> squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird
> friendly habitat
> Any thoughts would be appreciated
> Thanks
> Barbara Eden
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Where are all my feeder birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Same here on Lansing Station Rd.
Few feeder birds, last few weeks, & no squirrels, when I usually have 10.
I thought this might be due to birds & SQs finding seeds & nuts from fall 
harvest in plants/trees nearby.

However, this morning I heard a "dawn chorus" in woods across street. Mostly 
Blue Jays I think.
Many come to my seeds on ground.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

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> wrote:

For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
population This is the first time this has happened and even those pesky 
squirrels have left I live in Cayuga Heights and my backyard is a bird friendly 
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Any thoughts would be appreciated
Thanks
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[Barbara B. Eden]

For the past 2 months the resident birds that I daily feed have dropped in 
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