Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Candace Cornell]

This is a good topic for the CBC to tackle. Educating the fishing and
non-fishing public is key.  I think signs w/ or w/o the photo would help as
well as sponsoring a publicized clean-up day.



I looked briefly at the DEC’s website to see how they treat the issue. Their
on-line bulletin "Fishing Responsibly in New York State," <
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/ 

9223.html > briefly addresses the
hazards of discarded monofilament line. Unfortunately, it is not required
reading for a fishing license. It states:


“Experienced anglers recognize the need to frequently cut back or change to
fresh monofilament fishing lines. The relatively soft composition of these
popular lines makes them easily damaged while playing or landing fish. When
replacing or fixing damaged line, be sure to properly dispose of any
excess. Monofilament line degrades slowly in the environment, with heavier
lines taking much longer to break down than light lines.



Carelessly discarded monofilament line can seriously harm wildlife. Animals
can become entangled in, or ingest the line, whereby starvation,
strangulation or deep wounding are possible. So, be sure to remove any
discarded line as well as any other monofilament line that you may
encounter while fishing.”



In 2004, the DEC sponsored a state-wide beach (marine and fresh) cleanup as
part of the  Ocean Conservancy’s International Coastal Cleanup, but did not
continue the program in subsequent years.



This September marks is the The Ocean Conservancy's 27th
annualInternational Coastal Cleanup.
The Conservancy offers a community cleanup action kit at
http://www.oceanconservancy.org/ourwork/marine
debris/
international
-
coastal-cleanup-6.html.
It’s short notice, but perhaps members of the CBC could organize such a
clean up for the end of September or October? I’ll help.


Candace





On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Marie P Read  wrote:

> I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project:  a sign,
> using a photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at
> it), the sign to include something like "Dispose of your used line wisely",
> to be placed near fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to
> this awful issue. It would be controversial and upsetting to some
> peoplebut then, so what?? STuff happens that way.
>
> Marie
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> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Myers and Hog Hole this morning, plus the hazards
> of discarded fishing line
>
> Below are my eBird reports for Myers Point and Hog Hole - nothing too
> surprising in either location.
>
> However, at Myers in a tree by the creek a Kingfisher had gotten trapped
> in fishing line with predictable and tragic results.
>
> Don't look if you are easily upset...
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Ann Mitchell]

In response to Geo's note - I caught a fishing line in a tree on my first
cast once, so I know how easily it happens. Luckily for me and any
unsuspecting wildlife, the line was retrievable!
Ann Mitchell

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:28 PM,  wrote:

> In my experience (having been raised among anglers), snags in trees are
> "should have known better" events, i.e. the result of careless or inept
> casting. Experienced anglers can avoid this problem. More difficult to
> avoid are the underwater snags, and I suspect the latter exact a greater
> cost on wildlife, though the submerged tackle and the victims may remain
> out of sight.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[geokloppel]

In my experience (having been raised among anglers), snags in trees are "should 
have known better" events, i.e. the result of careless or inept casting. 
Experienced anglers can avoid this problem. More difficult to avoid are the 
underwater snags, and I suspect the latter exact a greater cost on wildlife, 
though the submerged tackle and the victims may remain out of sight.

-Geo
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Marie P Read]

Carl makes some good points here


Certainly we could clean up as we go. But, unless I'm mistaken, the most 
egregious line is that which is inaccessibly high and snagged on branches, 
which is why it is cut and abandoned in the first place. To remove that would 
probably require more effort and more tools that most of us carry around 
birding with us. 

I am totally ignorant about fishing...so a question to those who know, is there 
a better way for an angler to deal with snagged line than to cut and leave it? 
Of course the obvious answer is to make more of an effort to reach it and 
untangle. I am not trying to set anyone up, simply wanting more information. It 
strikes me that we should be tackling the problem at its outset, not merely 
cleaning up afterwards. 

Marie

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Marie P Read]

Thanks for the contact info Bob. Yes, I was wondering how one would deal with 
the snagged line, since that's usually inaccessible (one of the reasons it is 
cut and left!). One way would be to remove the offending branch(es) to which 
it's caught...I have a long tree trimmer that could be used. But one would 
probably need  to alert the authorities before doing this. I would be willing 
to start the ball rolling on this issue, although knowing what else I have to 
do, it will be a slow process. Let me gather all the information and thoughts 
from other postings today, and compile, and maybe present a suggested plan of 
action at the next CBC directors meeting. I could also present something at the 
business section of an upcoming club meeting...but not the September one 
because I have knee surgery that day and will be not in the best frame of 
mind...if even conscious!

Marie

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Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:50 PM
To: Melissa Groo
Cc: Marie P Read; p...@grammatech.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new 
club project?

As far as contacting the people in charge (and with the hope that they will 
initiate some solutions to the problem of left-behind fish line), I suggest the 
following:
Steve Colt, director of parks and recreation, Town of Lansing. The Town manages 
the park at Myers AND the area of Salt Point. Fishermen use the Town marina and 
fish from the shore at SP.

Both the fisheries biologist and head of the DEC region office in Cortland 
(names I don't have at the moment). The State of NY actually owns Salt Point 
even though   the Town of Lansing manages it.

A letter containing Paul's photo should go to each of them.

There are two problems here: fish line that is no longer wanted (tangles, 
broken line, etc) and line that became snagged in trees or underwater and cut. 
I have seen the PVC pipe that Steve Fast mentions in fishing spots all over the 
country, especially at marinas and boat launches. I wouldn't be surprised if 
the DEC has a stock of them and could supply one for the Myers marina. Dealing 
with snagged line - and the hazards it can cause - is more difficult. An 
education campaign, such as a copy of Paul's photo with a caption noting the 
problem, would be a place to start. Post the photo around the park and at Salt 
Point.

Bob McGuire
On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Melissa Groo wrote:


I think that's a good idea Marie has. I also think it would be good if some 
kind of project could clean up the accumulated fishing debris that's already 
out there, not just at Myers but also Stewart Park. I'd be happy to do what I 
can from my kayak when I go out but not sure it would be safe or that I would 
have the proper tools. Whom can we contact to share this photo, encourage this 
kind of clean up, and perhaps volunteer to help with the process? I've noticed 
a lot of tangled fishing wire and other trash along the inlet shore at Stewart 
Park when I am out in my kayak. Perhaps there are already regularly scheduled 
clean ups in place by park personnel but just thought I'd ask.
Melissa


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[bob mcguire]

As far as contacting the people in charge (and with the hope that they  
will initiate some solutions to the problem of left-behind fish line),  
I suggest the following:

Steve Colt, director of parks and recreation, Town of Lansing. The  
Town manages the park at Myers AND the area of Salt Point. Fishermen  
use the Town marina and fish from the shore at SP.

Both the fisheries biologist and head of the DEC region office in  
Cortland (names I don't have at the moment). The State of NY actually  
owns Salt Point even though the Town of Lansing manages it.

A letter containing Paul's photo should go to each of them.

There are two problems here: fish line that is no longer wanted  
(tangles, broken line, etc) and line that became snagged in trees or  
underwater and cut. I have seen the PVC pipe that Steve Fast mentions  
in fishing spots all over the country, especially at marinas and boat  
launches. I wouldn't be surprised if the DEC has a stock of them and  
could supply one for the Myers marina. Dealing with snagged line - and  
the hazards it can cause - is more difficult. An education campaign,  
such as a copy of Paul's photo with a caption noting the problem,  
would be a place to start. Post the photo around the park and at Salt  
Point.

Bob McGuire
On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Melissa Groo wrote:

>
> I think that's a good idea Marie has. I also think it would be good  
> if some kind of project could clean up the accumulated fishing  
> debris that's already out there, not just at Myers but also Stewart  
> Park. I'd be happy to do what I can from my kayak when I go out but  
> not sure it would be safe or that I would have the proper tools.  
> Whom can we contact to share this photo, encourage this kind of  
> clean up, and perhaps volunteer to help with the process? I've  
> noticed a lot of tangled fishing wire and other trash along the  
> inlet shore at Stewart Park when I am out in my kayak. Perhaps there  
> are already regularly scheduled clean ups in place by park personnel  
> but just thought I'd ask.
> Melissa
>
>
> Melissa Groo Fine Art Photography
> http://melissagroo.com
>
>
> > From: m...@cornell.edu
> > To: p...@grammatech.com; cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
> > Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing  
> line - a new club project?
> > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:11:06 +
> >
> > I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project: a  
> sign, using a photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself  
> to look at it), the sign to include something like "Dispose of your  
> used line wisely", to be placed near fishing areas, would make  
> people pay more attention to this awful issue. It would be  
> controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what??  
> STuff happens that way.
> >
> > Marie
> >
> > Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> > 452 Ringwood Road
> > Freeville NY 13068 USA
> >
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> > e-mail m...@cornell.edu
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[PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Carl Steckler]

On 8/19/2012 12:11 PM, Marie P Read wrote:

I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project:  a sign, using a photo such 
as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the sign to include something 
like "Dispose of your used line wisely", to be placed near fishing areas, would 
make people pay more attention to this awful issue. It would be controversial and 
upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what?? STuff happens that way.

Marie
Personally I think it would be a lot more effective for us to just go 
around to all of the fishing sites we can  and remove any line we find.  
Even making it a point that we make the extra effort when we are birding 
to watch for things like this and take action on the spot. With as many 
of us who go out regularly it would only take a little more effort on 
out part to seek out and remove these hazards as we bird.


Besides the fact that while making signs one would have to look at the 
photos, I don't think I would care to do so.

Carl Steckler

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Melissa Groo]

I think that's a good idea Marie has. I also think it would be good if some 
kind of project could clean up the accumulated fishing debris that's already 
out there, not just at Myers but also Stewart Park. I'd be happy to do what I 
can from my kayak when I go out but not sure it would be safe or that I would 
have the proper tools. Whom can we contact to share this photo, encourage this 
kind of clean up, and perhaps volunteer to help with the process? I've noticed 
a lot of tangled fishing wire and other trash along the inlet shore at Stewart 
Park when I am out in my kayak. Perhaps there are already regularly scheduled 
clean ups in place by park personnel but just thought I'd ask. 
Melissa 


Melissa Groo Fine Art Photography
http://melissagroo.com


> From: m...@cornell.edu
> To: p...@grammatech.com; cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a 
> new club project?
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:11:06 +
> 
> I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project:  a sign, using a 
> photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the 
> sign to include something like "Dispose of your used line wisely", to be 
> placed near fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to this awful 
> issue. It would be controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so 
> what?? STuff happens that way.
> 
> Marie
> 
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
> 
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> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu
> 
> http://www.marieread.com
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?

[Marie P Read]

I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project:  a sign, using a 
photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the sign 
to include something like "Dispose of your used line wisely", to be placed near 
fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to this awful issue. It 
would be controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what?? 
STuff happens that way.

Marie

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Freeville NY  13068 USA

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[bounce-63372156-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Paul Anderson 
[p...@grammatech.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:56 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Myers and Hog Hole this morning, plus the hazards of 
discarded fishing line

Below are my eBird reports for Myers Point and Hog Hole - nothing too 
surprising in either location.

However, at Myers in a tree by the creek a Kingfisher had gotten trapped in 
fishing line with predictable and tragic results.

Don't look if you are easily upset...
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/VB5Pmc14LEr9HVGdHnGVhdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

-Paul



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