Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-15 Thread Paul Anderson
Thanks Geo for this suggestion. I just added this document to the Resources section of the CBC website: http://www.cayugabirdclub.org/Resources. It's right at the end. I'm more than happy to accept other suggestions for similar additions. -Paul On 3/15/2016 10:13 AM, Geo Kloppel wrote: > I

Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
I would like to suggest that the Hayfields & Grassland Birds link below might be a useful addition to the Cayuga Bird Club webpage, so that club members and visitors can easily re-locate this valuable but rather deeply buried resource.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
Prompted by Mike Palermo to go to the _correct_ section, I find that the collection of Cooperative Extension documents he shared does contain just what the livestock guy at Winter Market needs. Readers can navigate to it as Mike described (you have to hunt for the link labeled "Hayfields &

Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-14 Thread Geo Kloppel
The NYDEC and Cornell Cooperative Extension documents that were mentioned seem to be oriented toward management for grassland wildlife, so they say that no cutting should take place between late April and mid August. That's fine if you're managing a nature preserve, but it's probably not

Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-14 Thread Marc Devokaitis
Hi Michael, This should be helpful if you haven't come across it yet. http://www.dec.ny.gov/pubs/86582.html Marc On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Michael O. Engle wrote: > Hi, > > > > I had a chat with a local livestock raiser at Winter Market this weekend. > He hays a

RE:[cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-14 Thread Palermo, Michael N (DEC)
st.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Michael O. Engle Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:03 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE:[cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields I'm fine with the discussion taking place on the list. I think it would be good, in the end, if one person could work dir

RE:[cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-14 Thread Michael O. Engle
I'm fine with the discussion taking place on the list. I think it would be good, in the end, if one person could work directly with the livestock guy I talked with to advise/train/support him over time. It's certainly a useful kind of knowledge for livestock producers who manage fields for hay.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-14 Thread Geo Kloppel
Here's my take: I think a cut-off date (a one-date-fits-all approach) is pretty hopeless, as it forces you to postpone all your cutting until quite late, reducing the economic viability of your business operation. In my opinion it's much better to do an assessment year-by-year and

RE:[cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

2016-03-14 Thread Donna Lee Scott
While I can understand why Michael wants to keep the conversation with the livestock person off the list, I think it would benefit many of us if we knew what are the recommendations are for when is the best time to mow hay or grass fields with regard to protecting nesting grassland birds and