Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Karen
 I support much of what Alicia has written. I admire her effort putting it 
together. I do think there is a wider perspective on funding for USFW refuges. 
Operational expenses come out of the US budget. That includes salaries, 
equipment, maintenance, and all other yearly expenses that go on forever after 
the land is purchased. I pay for that in my taxes.By the way, I have been a 
member of Ducks Unlimited.
John
On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 06:35:08 PM EST, Peter Saracino 
 wrote:  
 
 Trying to find out. 
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, 5:44 PM  wrote:

  Birders often buy a duck stamp, too.  According to Ducks Unlimited, "Each 
year, about 25 percent of all duck stamps are purchased by individuals who do 
not hunt waterfowl that particular year. Many of these stamps are bought by 
collectors and avid conservationists who support habitat programs funded by 
duck stamp sales."  My husband & I don't hunt but we get one at the Post Office 
each year, every Post Office carries them.  This year the Duck Stamp feature a 
pair of Redheads and cost $25, 98% of which goes directly to help acquire and 
protect wetland habitat and purchase conservation easements for the National 
Wildlife Refuge System. 
 
 Question to folks who have experience with bears: wasn't that bear pretty 
small?  Seems like the ones I have seen in the wild (always running away from 
us so not ideal views) were larger, but maybe that's just the way the photo was 
taken?
 
 Alicia
 
 On 12/8/2022 5:05 PM, Alyssa Johnson wrote:
  

This is going to be long; I apologize in advance! But as a huge advocate for 
hunting, a former colleague of MNWR, and a bear lover, I wanted to share my 
perspective. Something I discovered while working out at Montezuma Audubon was 
the general public’s misconception about what a "wildlife refuge" is, and its 
purpose. The following was taken from the National Wildlife Refuge System 
website:
 
About Us: The National Wildlife Refuge System lands and waters serve a purpose 
distinct from that of other U.S. public lands: Wildlife conservation drives 
everything on national wildlife refuges, from the purposes for which each 
refuge was established to the recreational activities offered, to the resource 
management tools used.
 
The mission of the refuge system is "To administer a national network of lands 
and waters for the conservation, management, and where appropriate, restoration 
of fish, wildlife, and plant resources and their habitats within the United 
States for the benefit of the present and future generations of Americans."
 

 
 
I'd like to focus on the highlighted sections and in particular the word 
"conservation". At its very simplest, conservation means "wise use", and in 
this case, the wise use of natural resources which includes fish, wildlife, and 
plants. Preservation is the word that implies "no use", but that is not used 
here. Legally huntable wildlife species, in accordance with NYS and Federal 
law, can be hunted in the National Wildlife Refuges, including Montezuma. In 
fact, without hunting, much of the land within Montezuma National Wildlife 
Refuge, would not be under their ownership and management. When hunting for 
migratory bird species (which is defined as waterfowl and gallinule at 
Montezuma NWR) you must have a "Duck Stamp" on your person while hunting. 
Hunters 16 years of age or older are required to purchase them, and the stamps 
are considered "conservation revenue stamps; 98 percent of the purchase prices 
goes directly to help acquire and protect wetland habitat and purchase 
conservation easements for the National Wildlife Refuge System. Wetlands 
acquired with Duck Stamp dollars help purify water, aid in flood control, 
reduce soil erosion and sedimentation, and enhance outdoor recreation 
opportunities." (FWS Duck Stamps) I can’t remember the exact percentage, but 
something like 89%? (don’t quote me, and maybe someone from the Refuge will 
jump in), but a majority of the Refuge lands has been acquired using Duck Stamp 
funds. Without hunting, which is considered a mechanism of conservation and 
wildlife management, we would likely would not have the wildlife drive, Knox 
Marsellus Marsh, Tschache Pool, Wil-Goose, etc. to enjoy. Hunters have no 
choice if they want to purchase that stamp or not, no stamp, no hunting. But 
birders and other “non consumptive” users of the land are by and large, NOT 
contributing financially. I know some people are donors, but I’d guess most 
people who visit the drive, are not, and get to enjoy that beautiful place for 
free. A current Federal Duck Stamp is also a free pass into any national 
wildlife refuge that charges an entry fee (some do). Because nearly all of the 
proceeds are used to conserve habitat for birds and other wildlife, birders, 
nature photographers and other outdoor enthusiasts buy Duck Stamps to help 
ensure that they can always see wildlife at their favorite outdoor spots. No 
hunting =  less publicly accessible 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Peter Saracino
Trying to find out.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, 5:44 PM  wrote:

> Birders often buy a duck stamp, too.  According to Ducks Unlimited, "Each
> year, about 25 percent of all duck stamps are purchased by individuals who
> do not hunt waterfowl that particular year. Many of these stamps are bought
> by collectors and avid conservationists who support habitat programs funded
> by duck stamp sales."  My husband & I don't hunt but we get one at the Post
> Office each year, every Post Office carries them.  This year the Duck Stamp
> feature a pair of Redheads and cost $25, 98% of which goes directly to help
> acquire and protect wetland habitat and purchase conservation easements for
> the National Wildlife Refuge System.
>
> Question to folks who have experience with bears: wasn't that bear pretty
> small?  Seems like the ones I have seen in the wild (always running away
> from us so not ideal views) were larger, but maybe that's just the way the
> photo was taken?
>
> Alicia
>
> On 12/8/2022 5:05 PM, Alyssa Johnson wrote:
>
> This is going to be long; I apologize in advance! But as a huge advocate
> for hunting, a former colleague of MNWR, and a bear lover, I wanted to
> share my perspective. Something I discovered while working out at Montezuma
> Audubon was the general public’s misconception about what a "wildlife
> refuge" is, and its purpose. The following was taken from the National
> Wildlife Refuge System website
> :
>
> About Us: The National Wildlife Refuge System lands and waters serve a
> purpose distinct from that of other U.S. public lands: Wildlife conservation
> drives everything on national wildlife refuges, from the purposes for
> which each refuge was established to the recreational activities offered,
> to the resource management tools used.
>
> The mission of the refuge system is "To administer a national network of
> lands and waters for the conservation, management, and where appropriate,
> restoration of fish, wildlife, and plant resources and their habitats
> within the United States for the benefit of the present and future
> generations of Americans."
>
>
> I'd like to focus on the highlighted sections and in particular the word
> "conservation". At its very simplest, conservation means "wise use", and in
> this case, the wise use of natural resources which includes fish, wildlife,
> and plants. Preservation is the word that implies "no use", but that is not
> used here. Legally huntable wildlife species, in accordance with NYS and
> Federal law, can be hunted in the National Wildlife Refuges, including
> Montezuma. In fact, without hunting, much of the land within Montezuma
> National Wildlife Refuge, would not be under their ownership and
> management. When hunting for migratory bird species (which is defined as
> waterfowl and gallinule at Montezuma NWR) you must have a "Duck Stamp" on
> your person while hunting. Hunters 16 years of age or older are required to
> purchase them, and the stamps are considered "conservation revenue stamps;
> 98 percent of the purchase prices goes directly to help acquire and protect
> wetland habitat and purchase conservation easements for the National
> Wildlife Refuge System. Wetlands acquired with Duck Stamp dollars help
> purify water, aid in flood control, reduce soil erosion and sedimentation,
> and enhance outdoor recreation opportunities." (FWS Duck Stamps
> ) I can’t remember the exact
> percentage, but something like 89%? (don’t quote me, and maybe someone from
> the Refuge will jump in), but a majority of the Refuge lands has been
> acquired using Duck Stamp funds. Without hunting, which is considered a
> mechanism of conservation and wildlife management, we would likely would
> not have the wildlife drive, Knox Marsellus Marsh, Tschache Pool,
> Wil-Goose, etc. to enjoy. Hunters have no choice if they want to purchase
> that stamp or not, no stamp, no hunting. But birders and other “non
> consumptive” users of the land are by and large, NOT contributing
> financially. I know some people are donors, but I’d guess most people who
> visit the drive, are not, and get to enjoy that beautiful place for free. A
> current Federal Duck Stamp is also a free pass into any national wildlife
> refuge that charges an entry fee (some do). Because nearly all of the
> proceeds are used to conserve habitat for birds and other wildlife,
> birders, nature photographers and other outdoor enthusiasts buy Duck Stamps
> to help ensure that they can always see wildlife at their favorite outdoor
> spots. No hunting =  less publicly accessible Federal lands.
>
> That being said- this situation with the bear shooting was unethical,
> irresponsible, and illegal. According to Montezuma NWR’s Hunt/Fish Plan
> , black
> bears are NOT a huntable species on refuge lands. So even though they are
> in 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread tess
Birders often buy a duck stamp, too.  According to Ducks Unlimited, 
"Each year, about 25 percent of all duck stamps are purchased by 
individuals who do not hunt waterfowl that particular year. Many of 
these stamps are bought by collectors and avid conservationists who 
support habitat programs funded by duck stamp sales."  My husband & I 
don't hunt but we get one at the Post Office each year, every Post 
Office carries them.  This year the Duck Stamp feature a pair of 
Redheads and cost $25, 98% of which goes directly to help acquire and 
protect wetland habitat and purchase conservation easements for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System.

Question to folks who have experience with bears: wasn't that bear 
pretty small?  Seems like the ones I have seen in the wild (always 
running away from us so not ideal views) were larger, but maybe that's 
just the way the photo was taken?

Alicia

On 12/8/2022 5:05 PM, Alyssa Johnson wrote:
>
> This is going to be long; I apologize in advance! But as a huge 
> advocate for hunting, a former colleague of MNWR, and a bear lover, I 
> wanted to share my perspective. Something I discovered while working 
> out at Montezuma Audubon was the general public’s misconception about 
> what a "wildlife refuge" is, and its purpose. The following was taken 
> from the National Wildlife Refuge System website 
> :
>
> About Us: The National Wildlife Refuge System lands and waters serve a 
> purpose distinct from that of other U.S. public lands: Wildlife 
> conservation drives everything on national wildlife refuges, from the 
> purposes for which each refuge was established to the recreational 
> activities offered, to the resource management tools used.
>
> The mission of the refuge system is "To administer a national network 
> of lands and waters for the conservation, management, and where 
> appropriate, restoration of fish, wildlife, and plant resources and 
> their habitats within the United States for the benefit of the present 
> and future generations of Americans."
>
>
> I'd like to focus on the highlighted sections and in particular the 
> word "conservation". At its very simplest, conservation means "wise 
> use", and in this case, the wise use of natural resources which 
> includes fish, wildlife, and plants. Preservation is the word that 
> implies "no use", but that is not used here. Legally huntable wildlife 
> species, in accordance with NYS and Federal law, can be hunted in the 
> National Wildlife Refuges, including Montezuma. In fact, without 
> hunting, much of the land within Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge, 
> would not be under their ownership and management. When hunting for 
> migratory bird species (which is defined as waterfowl and gallinule at 
> Montezuma NWR) you must have a "Duck Stamp" on your person while 
> hunting. Hunters 16 years of age or older are required to purchase 
> them, and the stamps are considered "conservation revenue stamps; 98 
> percent of the purchase prices goes directly to help acquire and 
> protect wetland habitat and purchase conservation easements for the 
> National Wildlife Refuge System. Wetlands acquired with Duck Stamp 
> dollars help purify water, aid in flood control, reduce soil erosion 
> and sedimentation, and enhance outdoor recreation opportunities." (FWS 
> Duck Stamps ) I can’t 
> remember the exact percentage, but something like 89%? (don’t quote 
> me, and maybe someone from the Refuge will jump in), but a majority of 
> the Refuge lands has been acquired using Duck Stamp funds. Without 
> hunting, which is considered a mechanism of conservation and wildlife 
> management, we would likely would not have the wildlife drive, Knox 
> Marsellus Marsh, Tschache Pool, Wil-Goose, etc. to enjoy. Hunters have 
> no choice if they want to purchase that stamp or not, no stamp, no 
> hunting. But birders and other “non consumptive” users of the land are 
> by and large, NOT contributing financially. I know some people are 
> donors, but I’d guess most people who visit the drive, are not, and 
> get to enjoy that beautiful place for free. A current Federal Duck 
> Stamp is also a free pass into any national wildlife refuge that 
> charges an entry fee (some do). Because nearly all of the proceeds are 
> used to conserve habitat for birds and other wildlife, birders, nature 
> photographers and other outdoor enthusiasts buy Duck Stamps to help 
> ensure that they can always see wildlife at their favorite outdoor 
> spots. No hunting =  less publicly accessible Federal lands.
>
> That being said- this situation with the bear shooting was unethical, 
> irresponsible, and illegal. According to Montezuma NWR’s Hunt/Fish 
> Plan 
> , 
> black bears are NOT a huntable species on refuge lands. So even though 
> they are in season in that local zone 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Alyssa Johnson
 
This is going to be long; I apologize in advance! But as ahuge advocate for 
hunting, a former colleague of MNWR, and a bear lover, I wantedto share my 
perspective. Something I discovered while working out at Montezuma Audubonwas 
the general public’s misconception about what a "wildlife refuge"is, and its 
purpose. The following was taken from the NationalWildlife Refuge System 
website:

About Us: The National Wildlife Refuge System lands andwaters serve a purpose 
distinct from that of other U.S. public lands: Wildlifeconservation drives 
everything on national wildlife refuges, from the purposesfor which each refuge 
was established to the recreational activities offered,to the resource 
management tools used.

The mission of the refuge system is "To administer anational network of lands 
and waters for the conservation, management, andwhere appropriate, restoration 
of fish, wildlife, and plant resources andtheir habitats within the United 
States for the benefit of the present andfuture generations of Americans."




I'd like to focus on the highlighted sections and inparticular the word 
"conservation". At its very simplest,conservation means "wise use", and in this 
case, the wise use ofnatural resources which includes fish, wildlife, and 
plants. Preservation isthe word that implies "no use", but that is not used 
here. Legallyhuntable wildlife species, in accordance with NYS and Federal law, 
can behunted in the National Wildlife Refuges, including Montezuma. In fact, 
withouthunting, much of the land within Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge, 
would notbe under their ownership and management. When hunting for migratory 
birdspecies (which is defined as waterfowl and gallinule at Montezuma NWR) you 
musthave a "Duck Stamp" on your person while hunting. Hunters 16 years ofage or 
older are required to purchase them, and the stamps are considered"conservation 
revenue stamps; 98 percent of the purchase prices goesdirectly to help acquire 
and protect wetland habitat and purchase conservationeasements for the National 
Wildlife Refuge System. Wetlands acquired with DuckStamp dollars help purify 
water, aid in flood control, reduce soil erosion andsedimentation, and 
enhanceoutdoor recreation opportunities." (FWS Duck Stamps) I can’t rememberthe 
exact percentage, but something like 89%? (don’t quote me, and maybe 
someonefrom the Refuge will jump in), but a majority of the Refuge lands has 
been acquiredusing Duck Stamp funds. Without hunting, which is considered a 
mechanism ofconservation and wildlife management, we would likely would not 
have thewildlife drive, Knox Marsellus Marsh, Tschache Pool, Wil-Goose, etc. to 
enjoy.Hunters have no choice if they want to purchase that stamp or not, no 
stamp, nohunting. But birders and other “non consumptive” users of the land are 
by andlarge, NOT contributing financially. I know some people are donors, but 
I’dguess most people who visit the drive, are not, and get to enjoy that 
beautifulplace for free. A current Federal Duck Stamp is also a free pass into 
any nationalwildlife refuge that charges an entry fee (some do). Because nearly 
all ofthe proceeds are used to conserve habitat for birds and other 
wildlife,birders, nature photographers and other outdoor enthusiasts buy Duck 
Stamps tohelp ensure that they can always see wildlife at their favorite 
outdoor spots.No hunting =  less publicly accessible Federallands.

That being said- this situation with the bear shooting was 
unethical,irresponsible, and illegal. According to MontezumaNWR’s Hunt/Fish 
Plan, black bears are NOT a huntable species on refugelands. So even though 
they are in season in that local zone according to NYSDEC,Federal law trumps 
state law, and the refuge can enact stricter regulations ona refuge. A long 
time ago I worked at Eufaula NWR in Alabama, and my job was tofacilitate the 
logistics of a very popular waterfowl hunt twice a week.Huntable species were 
considered ducks, geese, coot, gallinule, and I thinkcormorants. To be able to 
join in on this hunt, you had to join a lottery, hopeto be chosen, and then pay 
for your blind for that day. It was a big deal to alot of hunters. One 
particular day, a smart ass was “bored” (he said) and whenhe was checking out 
with me after his hunt, he jokingly said he’d only beenable to get 1 black 
duck. Down there, “big ducks” like mallard/black ducks wereless common than 
divers and highly coveted. So I was excited for him, and askedto see it to 
confirm. It was a crow. The guy thought he was funny, but whatended up 
happening was the crow was seized and he was ticketed. Even thoughcrow were in 
season, that’s NOT why he was there that day. The refuge LEOwanted to impress 
upon this man that we don’t just shoot things for fun here.

Coming back to NY and this bear situation. I think that whenpeople who have 
firearms or bows and they commit crimes, we do not refer tothem as “hunters”. 
We should refer to them as criminals, 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
I apologize for the scrambled link ! 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
We are also indoctrinated to smile for the camera regardless of situation. It’s 
a hard habit to break for some.
Gary

On Dec 8, 2022, at 11:28 AM, Anne Marie Sheridan  wrote:


Right. Also, please remember you are looking at LEOs who just brought the 
poacher to justice, secured the bear as evidence in the crime and managed to 
assist in repurposing the late bear’s body for the benefit of the refuge. It’s 
easy to judge, but a lot goes through one’s mind when deployed on calls, 
especially one that yields a conviction. Context is important.

AM

From: bounce-127006459-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
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Cc: Marie P. Read ; Peter Saracino ; 
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

At least the hunter was charged with illegally killing the bear

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:54 AM Linda Orkin 
mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
One less wild being that makes up the 2% of
the total  wildlife remaining in this earth.

We are insatiable

Oh….just my opinion.

Linda Orkin


On Dec 8, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Marie P. Read 
mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

#1 So what about "Wildlife REFUGE" am I not understanding here?
#2 it's sad and tasteless that the guy on the left has such a smug grin.
Just my opinion
Gr.
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Anne Marie Sheridan
Right. Also, please remember you are looking at LEOs who just brought the 
poacher to justice, secured the bear as evidence in the crime and managed to 
assist in repurposing the late bear’s body for the benefit of the refuge. It’s 
easy to judge, but a lot goes through one’s mind when deployed on calls, 
especially one that yields a conviction. Context is important.

AM

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Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 11:12 AM
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Cc: Marie P. Read ; Peter Saracino ; 
CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

At least the hunter was charged with illegally killing the bear

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:54 AM Linda Orkin 
mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
One less wild being that makes up the 2% of
the total  wildlife remaining in this earth.

We are insatiable

Oh….just my opinion.

Linda Orkin


On Dec 8, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Marie P. Read 
mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

#1 So what about "Wildlife REFUGE" am I not understanding here?
#2 it's sad and tasteless that the guy on the left has such a smug grin.
Just my opinion
Gr.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Anne Marie Whelan
At least the hunter was charged with illegally killing the bear

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:54 AM Linda Orkin  wrote:

> One less wild being that makes up the 2% of
> the total  wildlife remaining in this earth.
>
> We are insatiable
>
> Oh….just my opinion.
>
> Linda Orkin
>
> On Dec 8, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Marie P. Read  wrote:
>
> 
> #1 So what about "Wildlife REFUGE" am I not understanding here?
> #2 it's sad and tasteless that the guy on the left has such a smug grin.
> Just my opinion
> Gr.
> Marie
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Linda Orkin
One less wild being that makes up the 2% ofthe total  wildlife remaining in this earth. We are insatiable Oh….just my opinion. Linda OrkinOn Dec 8, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Marie P. Read  wrote:







#1 So what about "Wildlife REFUGE" am I not understanding here?
#2 it's sad and tasteless that the guy on the left has such a smug grin.
Just my opinion
Gr.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Marie P. Read
#1 So what about "Wildlife REFUGE" am I not understanding here?
#2 it's sad and tasteless that the guy on the left has such a smug grin.
Just my opinion
Gr.
Marie


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Marie P. Read
#1 so what about “Wildlife REFUGE” am I not understanding here?
#2 it’s sad and tasteless that the guy on the left has such a smug look on his 
face.

Grrr!
Marie

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black bear killed on Refuge

2022-12-08 Thread Poppy Singer
this is sad. why is the guy in the photo smiling?


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