Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

Heartly concur John. Count me as a bander who has both noted this and had research muddled by such exact descriptions. john -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 N 42 26.611' W 76 45.492' Website:

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

Hopefully this is not taking this outside the interest of many on the list but: I am curious to know the evidence on reduced nesting success in goshawks, in part because it is really important to know what such evidence would look like. John, can you direct those of us who might want to follow

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

As a follow-up to Anne's request, I'd also love to hear about any evidence showing that Goshawks are on territory in January, and that flushing from low cover is a typical behavior of a Goshawk on territory and susceptible to disturbance. -Scott On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Anne Clark

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

I'm just suggesting that an overdoes of caution for the sake of a species that is known to be adverse to human disturbance is worth considering. The evidence for goshawk nest abandonment that I know about is limited but real. I doubt that at this time of year that there would be any impact on

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

John C., I'm still trying to figure out how we know Goshawks to be adverse to human disturbance. Anecdotal evidence is nice, as is your research on Golden-winged Warblers, but actual cited research on Northern Goshawks reports the following: *Disturbances associated with research are usually of

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

Foster Pond is a small parking lot on the left Side Of Potomac Rd going north from 227. It is not in the CLB but in the SLB. -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 N 42 26.611' W 76 45.492' Website:

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

[mailto:bounce-118706019-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Donna Scott Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:15 AM To: Joshua Snodgrass Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. Where is Foster Pond, please? Sent from my iPhone Donna

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

Where is Foster Pond, please? Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Joshua Snodgrass cedarsh...@gmail.com wrote: I went birding at Foster Pond this afternoon, because high twenties feels like spring compared to the last few days. Past the frozen pond and down

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

Of Donna Scott Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:15 AM To: Joshua Snodgrass Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. Where is Foster Pond, please? Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Joshua Snodgrass cedarsh

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

:* CAYUGABIRDS-L *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. HI Folks, The barn door is open or the cat is out of the bag, BUT I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT DESCRIBING LOCATIONS OF N GOSHAWK WHEN THEY ACT SOMEWHAT AS IF THEY HAD A TERRITORY. Northern

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

HI Folks, The barn door is open or the cat is out of the bag, BUT I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT DESCRIBING LOCATIONS OF N GOSHAWK WHEN THEY ACT SOMEWHAT AS IF THEY HAD A TERRITORY. Northern Goshawk are known among banders who climb to hawk nests to frequently abandon a nest, especially early in