Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13

2010-09-13 Thread Tyson Scott
The question should have stated FPM not NBAR.  I have updated the question
to be titled Flexible Packet Matching instead of MQC using NBAR.

 

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[mailto:ccie_security-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Yogesh
Gawankar
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:09 AM
To: OSL Security; Vybhav Ramachandran
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13

 



Ok Thx. In that case I feel we need to use Nbar if the question mentions it
but maybe somebody else can shed more light on this. 

 

Speaking of nbar does anyone have any tips on engaging the nbar engine
without the IOS crashing?

 


Thanks and regards

Yogesh Gawankar


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From: Vybhav Ramachandran tac...@tacack.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13
To: Yogesh Gawankar yogesh...@yahoo.com, OSL Security
ccie_security@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 2:23 PM

Hello Yogesh, 

 

Well FPM is by far the most detailed method to match payload in the traffic
, but i think NBAR could also be used to perform some crude payload
matching. For example , suppose we want to match traffic destined to port
UDP 6060 which has the hex string 98AB at an offset of 6 bytes from the
start of the packet, we could define a custom protocol and configure it to
match the string , like this:

 

# ip nbar custom NAME OF THE CUSTOM PROTOCOL 6 hex 98AB destination udp
6060.

 

This definitely is not as powerful as FPM in the sense that, for defining a
custom NBAR protocol , we need to know the TCP or UDP ports that the traffic
is destined for. It's not as flexible as FPM.

 

My question was, since the question mentioned NBAR , are we allowed to use
FPM as our matching technique? If yes, great :)

 

Cheers,

TacACK

 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13

2010-09-13 Thread Vybhav Ramachandran
Thanks a lot Tyson.

Cheers,
TacACK
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13

2010-09-12 Thread Vybhav Ramachandran
Any idea guys?
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13

2010-09-12 Thread Yogesh Gawankar
HI Vybhav
 
What is the other method on matching a IP payload string ? Just asking as I 
have no idea.

Thanks and regards

Yogesh Gawankar


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From: Vybhav Ramachandran tac...@tacack.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13
To: OSL Security ccie_security@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 1:36 AM


Hello All,


The task 7.14 says that we have to use NBAR to drop traffic which has the 
string 0x02BACC1E . The solution makes use of FPM. I used an NBAR custom 
protocol ( which required the use of a L4 port number , which was not given in 
the task ). So , in the CCIE lab, if the task asks for NBAR , can we use FPM?


Cheers,
TacACK
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13

2010-09-12 Thread Yogesh Gawankar

Ok Thx. In that case I feel we need to use Nbar if the question mentions it but 
maybe somebody else can shed more light on this. 
 
Speaking of nbar does anyone have any tips on engaging the nbar engine without 
the IOS crashing?
 

Thanks and regards

Yogesh Gawankar


--- On Mon, 9/13/10, Vybhav Ramachandran tac...@tacack.com wrote:


From: Vybhav Ramachandran tac...@tacack.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPexpert Vol 1 , Lab 7A , Task 7.13
To: Yogesh Gawankar yogesh...@yahoo.com, OSL Security 
ccie_security@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 2:23 PM


Hello Yogesh,


Well FPM is by far the most detailed method to match payload in the traffic , 
but i think NBAR could also be used to perform some crude payload matching. For 
example , suppose we want to match traffic destined to port UDP 6060 which has 
the hex string 98AB at an offset of 6 bytes from the start of the packet, we 
could define a custom protocol and configure it to match the string , like this:


# ip nbar custom NAME OF THE CUSTOM PROTOCOL 6 hex 98AB destination udp 6060.


This definitely is not as powerful as FPM in the sense that, for defining a 
custom NBAR protocol , we need to know the TCP or UDP ports that the traffic is 
destined for. It's not as flexible as FPM.


My question was, since the question mentioned NBAR , are we allowed to use FPM 
as our matching technique? If yes, great :)


Cheers,
TacACK


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