Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
Hi Guys, I can see lot of guys are freshers out here! Previously people pass the lab by making back to back attempts and when they attempt they remember the labs and get it then they make the solutions and attempt when there is no ipexpert,ine or 360 so lets say 3 attempts they fail they get all the lab and pass on 4th attempt less CCIE but more investment... The same things real labs are giving u now... So as smart work save yr 3 times attempt money and get it and make yrself pass Even there are guys who cannot pass from real labs but CCIE is respectful and you need hard core knowledge for the same even on real labs. But if you dont have that!!! then make 5 attempts get the lab and then pass but again u are doing the same thing ah ha... but with a stupid way!!! I am sure now you guys got the answer To reach till CCIE its default you require core knowledge there is no one in the world who just close yr eyes and attempt and make it pass atleast not in VOICE So now please do not speak like junk or freshers and update if you will get lab 5 :) Thankyou Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:57:07 -0700 From: v.c...@yahoo.com To: a...@ipcomconsult.com; jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; gogli...@gmail.com CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK I agree with Alex. In the exam they are doing a lot of bad things to prevent you from passing the exam not to measure the your skills. Regarding George message, I respect your message and I am not happy to hear what I said in my previous message about passing CCIE using real lab, yes I agree with you it is very bad to pass CCIE depending on real lab only. but for me I am considering real lab like other scenarios ( I will buy and study it like when I am studying IP Expert WB) for sure I will not just study the real lab and go to the exam, no I will prepare for the exam, I am going through the blue print topic by topic, I am reading to much in Cisco Press books. I have the complete solution of IP Expert I spent a lot of hours on racks and my home lab. but at the end I am going to take a look on real lab. I need to pass. I can not see my company respect some guys more than me just because they are CCIE and I have more experience and knowledge. Regards, From: Alex a...@ipcomconsult.com To: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; George Goglidze gogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 6:32:54 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK Guys, Most of the people on this list are trying to make way to their numbers without cheating. I also failed a few times but never resorted to real labs. However sometimes I I feel that cisco is cheating on me. Do u think R and S troubleshooting should be a part of Voice exam? Do u think that forcing u to use workaronds instead of normal tools available in real live adds any value to the certification? Don't u think that if cisco wants to test our troubleshoting skills they have to allocate some points and time for it but not brake something which u can possibly find only at the end of the exam when testing everything? I didn't have any problems configuring anything they asked me to. I also managed to resolve all the tricks they prepared for me (except of one for which I spent hours to research and recreate but still dono how did they brake it). However these hidden things kill ur time and as the result u don't have enough to verify everything and lose points because of typo etc. So, don't blame the guy much, he is just trying to cheat on cheater. Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.biz Sender: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:42:41 To: George Goglidzegogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voicev.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.comccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
I like you Jonny :) From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonny Mendas Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:00 AM To: v.c...@yahoo.com; a...@ipcomconsult.com; jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; gogli...@gmail.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK Hi Guys, I can see lot of guys are freshers out here! Previously people pass the lab by making back to back attempts and when they attempt they remember the labs and get it then they make the solutions and attempt when there is no ipexpert,ine or 360 so lets say 3 attempts they fail they get all the lab and pass on 4th attempt less CCIE but more investment... The same things real labs are giving u now... So as smart work save yr 3 times attempt money and get it and make yrself pass Even there are guys who cannot pass from real labs but CCIE is respectful and you need hard core knowledge for the same even on real labs. But if you dont have that!!! then make 5 attempts get the lab and then pass but again u are doing the same thing ah ha... but with a stupid way!!! I am sure now you guys got the answer To reach till CCIE its default you require core knowledge there is no one in the world who just close yr eyes and attempt and make it pass atleast not in VOICE So now please do not speak like junk or freshers and update if you will get lab 5 :) Thankyou Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:57:07 -0700 From: v.c...@yahoo.commailto:v.c...@yahoo.com To: a...@ipcomconsult.commailto:a...@ipcomconsult.com; jbr...@tsginc.bizmailto:jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; gogli...@gmail.commailto:gogli...@gmail.com CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK I agree with Alex. In the exam they are doing a lot of bad things to prevent you from passing the exam not to measure the your skills. Regarding George message, I respect your message and I am not happy to hear what I said in my previous message about passing CCIE using real lab, yes I agree with you it is very bad to pass CCIE depending on real lab only. but for me I am considering real lab like other scenarios ( I will buy and study it like when I am studying IP Expert WB) for sure I will not just study the real lab and go to the exam, no I will prepare for the exam, I am going through the blue print topic by topic, I am reading to much in Cisco Press books. I have the complete solution of IP Expert I spent a lot of hours on racks and my home lab. but at the end I am going to take a look on real lab. I need to pass. I can not see my company respect some guys more than me just because they are CCIE and I have more experience and knowledge. Regards, From: Alex a...@ipcomconsult.com To: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; George Goglidze gogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 6:32:54 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK Guys, Most of the people on this list are trying to make way to their numbers without cheating. I also failed a few times but never resorted to real labs. However sometimes I I feel that cisco is cheating on me. Do u think R and S troubleshooting should be a part of Voice exam? Do u think that forcing u to use workaronds instead of normal tools available in real live adds any value to the certification? Don't u think that if cisco wants to test our troubleshoting skills they have to allocate some points and time for it but not brake something which u can possibly find only at the end of the exam when testing everything? I didn't have any problems configuring anything they asked me to. I also managed to resolve all the tricks they prepared for me (except of one for which I spent hours to research and recreate but still dono how did they brake it). However these hidden things kill ur time and as the result u don't have enough to verify everything and lose points because of typo etc. So, don't blame the guy much, he is just trying to cheat on cheater. Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.bizmailto:jbr...@tsginc.biz Sender: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:42:41 To: George Goglidzegogli...@gmail.commailto:gogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voicev.c...@yahoo.commailto:v.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.comccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
Jonny. I know how can you pass this exam. Stop wasting your time and ours looking for a way to cheat and get to study. Regards, Roger Carpio. On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Jonny Mendas jonny.men...@hotmail.comwrote: ok sry justin if u feel thats ok.. i think i got more tensed bec of 3 attempts now no money. but lab is so hard. i do not know how we can pas! Thankyou -- From: jbr...@tsginc.biz To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:47:27 + Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK Can a moderator remove Johnny from this list? This is a clear violation of the NDA and I’m sure no one on this list wants anything to do with him. Justin *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonny Mendas *Sent:* Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:50 AM *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK LAB 5 update Presence IPPM needs to be configured for one of the phones One of the HQPhones need to be set up in softphone mode on the test pC = IPCC was full page IPPA service needs to be configured and assigned to a couple of lines 3101 and 2102 === AAR Configure AAR for calls between SiteC and HQ == RINGLIST SIP TRUNK Need to create a SIP trunk to an IP and write a note Trust me guys i was unable to remember it ... otherwise i would have shared it.. full lab.. If anyone got this lab we can work out and make full lab!!! Or anyone has real labs i heard they also released full lab 5 Please guys i need to pass anyhow now i heard it is over everywhere!! means every location. Please PM for the same. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
I'm really shocked at the amount of people who think the only way to pass is with a real lab. If you get a hold of a real lab and use it to pass, you are a cheat and a fraud, and you have no place on this list. And it *IS* our responsibility to uphold the NDA. Anyone who is looking for a real lab (cheating), please remove yourself from this list as you will find no help here! Justin From: George Goglidze [mailto:gogli...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:10 PM To: Ccie Voice Cc: Jonny Mendas; Justin Brady; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK wow, I'm really sorry to hear there are CCIE's out there that told you they only passed because they had real labs. I for sure would not hire one, if I knew he passed cheating. I really do not believe it's not doable without real labs. go back to the days when there were no real labs at all, say end of 1990's and early 2000, not only there were no real labs, but there were no IPExpert, Internetwork Expert or Cisco 360! and guess what? people were still passing, of course the passing rate was much smaller! and I believe that it's people like Jonny and CCIE's that admitted to you that they passed with real labs, are to blame for CCIE not being as respected as it was before! Nawadays if someone tells me he's a CCIE, I don't just trust him until he proves so with experience. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just expressing my opinion on the matter. Regards, On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.commailto:v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that no body passed his CCIE lab without real lab. and all CCIEs that I know they confirm this. Yes it is not the right place to discuss this, but why to deal with people like this? For sure Jonny tried to help and gave some information about the lab to help you to pass, so if we do not need to thank him, no need to deal with him like this, it is not our responsibility to tell Cisco about NDA and we are not moderators here. what is your attitude if your lab soon?? Are you going to do the lab without real LAB??? if yes, so good luck in your next attempt and do not forget to buy REAL LABs. :) Again, I am not with this type of discussions and this is not the right place but it is helpful. but again we are not moderators here From: Jonny Mendas jonny.men...@hotmail.commailto:jonny.men...@hotmail.com To: jbr...@tsginc.bizmailto:jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 8:30:31 PM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK ok sry justin if u feel thats ok.. i think i got more tensed bec of 3 attempts now no money. but lab is so hard. i do not know how we can pas! Thankyou From: jbr...@tsginc.bizmailto:jbr...@tsginc.biz To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:47:27 + Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK Can a moderator remove Johnny from this list? This is a clear violation of the NDA and I'm sure no one on this list wants anything to do with him. Justin From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonny Mendas Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:50 AM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK LAB 5 update Presence IPPM needs to be configured for one of the phones One of the HQPhones need to be set up in softphone mode on the test pC = IPCC was full page IPPA service needs to be configured and assigned to a couple of lines 3101 and 2102 === AAR Configure AAR for calls between SiteC and HQ == RINGLIST SIP TRUNK Need to create a SIP trunk to an IP and write a note Trust me guys i was unable to remember it ... otherwise i would have shared it.. full lab.. If anyone got this lab we can work out and make full lab!!! Or anyone has real labs i heard they also released full lab 5 Please guys i need to pass anyhow now i heard it is over everywhere!! means every location. Please PM for the same. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.comhttp://www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.comhttp://www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
Guys, Most of the people on this list are trying to make way to their numbers without cheating. I also failed a few times but never resorted to real labs. However sometimes I I feel that cisco is cheating on me. Do u think R and S troubleshooting should be a part of Voice exam? Do u think that forcing u to use workaronds instead of normal tools available in real live adds any value to the certification? Don't u think that if cisco wants to test our troubleshoting skills they have to allocate some points and time for it but not brake something which u can possibly find only at the end of the exam when testing everything? I didn't have any problems configuring anything they asked me to. I also managed to resolve all the tricks they prepared for me (except of one for which I spent hours to research and recreate but still dono how did they brake it). However these hidden things kill ur time and as the result u don't have enough to verify everything and lose points because of typo etc. So, don't blame the guy much, he is just trying to cheat on cheater. Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.biz Sender: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:42:41 To: George Goglidzegogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voicev.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.comccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK
I agree with Alex. In the exam they are doing a lot of bad things to prevent you from passing the exam not to measure the your skills. Regarding George message, I respect your message and I am not happy to hear what I said in my previous message about passing CCIE using real lab, yes I agree with you it is very bad to pass CCIE depending on real lab only. but for me I am considering real lab like other scenarios ( I will buy and study it like when I am studying IP Expert WB) for sure I will not just study the real lab and go to the exam, no I will prepare for the exam, I am going through the blue print topic by topic, I am reading to much in Cisco Press books. I have the complete solution of IP Expert I spent a lot of hours on racks and my home lab. but at the end I am going to take a look on real lab. I need to pass. I can not see my company respect some guys more than me just because they are CCIE and I have more experience and knowledge. Regards, From: Alex a...@ipcomconsult.com To: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.biz; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; George Goglidze gogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 6:32:54 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK Guys, Most of the people on this list are trying to make way to their numbers without cheating. I also failed a few times but never resorted to real labs. However sometimes I I feel that cisco is cheating on me. Do u think R and S troubleshooting should be a part of Voice exam? Do u think that forcing u to use workaronds instead of normal tools available in real live adds any value to the certification? Don't u think that if cisco wants to test our troubleshoting skills they have to allocate some points and time for it but not brake something which u can possibly find only at the end of the exam when testing everything? I didn't have any problems configuring anything they asked me to. I also managed to resolve all the tricks they prepared for me (except of one for which I spent hours to research and recreate but still dono how did they brake it). However these hidden things kill ur time and as the result u don't have enough to verify everything and lose points because of typo etc. So, don't blame the guy much, he is just trying to cheat on cheater. Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Justin Brady jbr...@tsginc.biz Sender: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:42:41 To: George Goglidzegogli...@gmail.com; Ccie Voicev.c...@yahoo.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.comccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
