I agree with Alex. In the exam they are doing a lot of bad things to prevent 
you 
from passing the exam not to measure the your skills.

 Regarding George message, I respect your message and I am not happy to hear 
what I said in my previous message about passing CCIE using real lab, yes I 
agree with you it is very bad to pass CCIE depending on real lab only. but for 
me I am considering real lab like other scenarios ( I will buy and  study it 
like when I am studying  IP Expert WB) for sure I will not just study the real 
lab and go to the exam, no I will prepare for the exam, I am going through the 
blue print topic by topic, I am reading to much in Cisco Press books. I have 
the 
complete solution of IP Expert I spent a lot of hours on racks and my home lab.

but at the end I am going to take a look on real lab. I need to pass. I can not 
see my company respect some guys more than me just because they are CCIE and I 
have more experience and knowledge.

Regards,




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From: Alex <a...@ipcomconsult.com>
To: Justin Brady <jbr...@tsginc.biz>; ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com; 
George Goglidze <gogli...@gmail.com>; Ccie Voice <v.c...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 6:32:54 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK

Guys,
Most of the people on this list are trying to make way to their numbers without 
cheating.
I also failed a few times but never resorted to real labs.
However sometimes I
I feel that cisco is cheating on me.
Do u think R and S troubleshooting should be a part of Voice exam? Do u think 
that forcing u to use workaronds instead of normal tools available in real live 
adds any value to the certification? Don't u think that if cisco wants to test 
our troubleshoting skills they have to allocate some points and time for it but 
not brake something which u can possibly find only at the end of the exam when 
testing everything? 

I didn't have any problems configuring anything they asked me to. I also 
managed 
to resolve all the "tricks" they prepared for me (except of one for which I 
spent hours to research and recreate but still dono how did they brake it). 
However these hidden things kill ur time and as the result u don't have enough 
to verify everything and lose points because of typo etc.
So, don't blame the guy much, he is just trying to cheat on cheater.
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Brady <jbr...@tsginc.biz>
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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:42:41 
To: George Goglidze<gogli...@gmail.com>; Ccie Voice<v.c...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 5 every location with SIP TRUNK

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