[ccp4bb] recommendations_on_purification

2012-03-26 Thread Petros Giastas
Dear all, I am expressing a 6xHis tagged secreted protein in a fermentor in P. pastoris, using the standard minimal medium described in the invitrogen manual (plus PTM1). Following collection of the culture medium, I am having problems with purification of the protein as only a small fraction

Re: [ccp4bb] recommendations_on_purification

2012-03-26 Thread Lorenzo Finci
Petros, It has indeed been speculated that high concentrations of Magnesium and/or other metals present in the cell lysate effect the binding of the Histidine-tag, and thus specific conditions for binding and elution need to be optimized for specific elution of your target protein. I believe

Re: [ccp4bb] recommendations_on_purification

2012-03-26 Thread Lorenzo Finci
Etros, It has indeed been speculated that high concentrations of Magnesium and/or other metals present in the cell lysate effect the binding of the Histidine-tag, and thus specific conditions for binding and elution need to be optimized for specific elution of your target protein. I believe

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
I agree with Eleanor 100%... In my biased opinion, only the atoms supported by electron density should be included in deposited models. To satisfy the but this will mess up the electrostatic potential coloring argument (a valid one, of course), the projected model can be deposited alongside

[ccp4bb] Announcement: EMBO Practical Course in protein expression, purification and characterization (PEPC8)

2012-03-26 Thread Rob Meijers
Dear all, we are pleased to announce that applications are open for the EMBO Practical Course Protein expression, purification and characterization (PEPC8), which will be held at EMBL Hamburg from the 3rd of September until the 11th of September 2012. This is a hands-on course with

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Gregory Bowman
But what about the issue of resolution? As was previously pointed out, at say 3.2 Å resolution, many side chains will fail to fit, but it doesn't seem appropriate to trim them all down. The users need to also be aware of the quality/resolution of the structures that they are looking at. Greg

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is a personal preference. I do model at low sigma levels if there IS some indication of where to put atoms, always try to keep the correct sequence even if some atoms are missing, and just for coot convenience keep atoms with occ = 0, rather than delete them altogether. (COOT will refine

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Herman . Schreuder
I fully agree. Unfortunately, the perfect model does not exist (at least not for protein crystal structures). It is like with Heisenbergs uncertainty principle. Either one has a complete model with a number of atoms having a coordinate uncertainty of 4-6 Å, or one has a model where the

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 10:17 -0400, Gregory Bowman wrote: But what about the issue of resolution? As was previously pointed out, at say 3.2 Å resolution, many side chains will fail to fit, but it doesn't seem appropriate to trim them all down. Why is it inappropriate to trim them down?

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:30 +0200, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: It is like with Heisenbergs uncertainty principle. Either one has a complete model with a number of atoms having a coordinate uncertainty of 4-6 Å, or one has a model where the uncertainty of all atoms is below say 0.5 Å,

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Ed, In the end it boils down to personal preferences. With the number of crystal structures I refine each year, I am not going to go over every flexible surface residue to decide whether to truncate the side chain or whether there may be some low level density justifying to keep the side

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Katherine Sippel
I agree with Herman about personal preference but it also boils to our job as crystallographers to educate non-structural end-users. The fact of the matter is that a lot of researchers use structures without looking at the nuances of the PDB. It's actually pretty common among biologists to

[ccp4bb] JME editor in PRODRG

2012-03-26 Thread Shya Biswas
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had problems with drawing molecule using JME editor in PRODRG? If yes then how do I fix it? I could not draw molecule in the JME editor in the PRODRG webpage recently and JAVA is already installed in my computer. thanks, Shya

[ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Katarzyna Rudzka
Hi All, Has anyone had any luck purifying membrane proteins with DDM (n-dodecyl-D-maltoside) using concentration of detergent ~1-2 x CMC ? (Its CMC is very low: 0.009%). I would like to keep it as low as possible, so I don't have too much DDM around when I get to the crystallization step. I

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread yybbll
Hi, I used 0.017% or 0.012%. My protein is very stable at this concentration. Good luck. Lin 2012-03-26 yybbll Hi All, Has anyone had any luck purifying membrane proteins with DDM (n-dodecyl-D-maltoside) using concentration of detergent ~1-2 x CMC ? (Its CMC is very low:

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Kelly Daughtry
I generally use 1 - 2% DDM for extraction only, but lower the concentration to 0.01% for following steps (i.e. NiNTA and gel filtration). The excess DDM is washed away by using a lower concentration in your wash and elution buffers. Kelly ***

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Das, Debanu
Hi Katarzyna, Yes, membrane proteins can be purified in DDM at ~1-2xCMC. Since its CMC value is very low, at the extraction step you need to use a much higher concentration up to ~100x CMC. During different rounds of purification, you can bring the CMC level down to 1-2x CMC and even try

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Joao Dias
Kasia, A lot of people uses DDM to purify membrane proteins, not a lot of people crystallises them. If you want to crystallise a protein purified in DDM, then you should use LCP. If you go for vapour diffusion, you should exchange the DDM for a detergent with a smaller micelle size otherwise you

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
If I recall correctly cytochrome oxidase, which I believe was the first protein purified with DDM, requires about 10x cmc in column buffers to keep it soluble. Check for papers from 1970's or 80's by S. Ferguson-Miller. Cytochrme bc1 complex, on the other hand, is perfectly clear in 1 cmc and

[ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-26 Thread Matthew Lalonde
Dear All, I have searched the archives and would like more information about reproducing robot tray hits using 24-well hand trays. I reproducibly get crystals when I use small volumes (0.5 ul) in 3-well intelliplates but only precipitate in 1-2 ul sitting drops in 24-well hand plates. What

Re: [ccp4bb] JME editor in PRODRG

2012-03-26 Thread Tom Oldfield
Shya There have been a number of issues of the releases of the JVM, particularly with browser IE9 - most resulting in security exceptions when accessing data files. You should be able to update your Java on your computer as these problems appear to have been finally resolved through the

Re: [ccp4bb] recommendations_on_purification

2012-03-26 Thread Carlos Kikuti
90% of the protein could be aggregated and hiding the His tag from the resin. Metal ions might be removed from the starting sample by adding up to 10 mM EDTA in the first buffer exchange cycle, but just after reading 10% of the protein binds I wouldn't bet much on this. Rather increase the

Re: [ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-26 Thread Nian Huang
I have seen people only use robot to optimize their crystal and get good diffraction (~2 A). If you keep having trouble, you can try this method instead, even though generally the case is the bigger the drop the bigger crystal. I remember the archive suggest us to use higher concentration of

Re: [ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 11:57 -0600, Matthew Lalonde wrote: What parameters should I vary to reproduce crystals in hand plates? First of all, protein concentration. It also does not hurt diluting your reservoir since you are getting precipitates. If your goal is to get bigger crystals (which is

Re: [ccp4bb] recommendations_on_purification

2012-03-26 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hi Petros, It's possible but unlikely that your media contains enough metal ions to matter. More likely options include protein issues like overgkycosylation, proteolysis (removal of the tag) or severe aggregation. Since you are not experiencing this in BMGY, I wonder why not to supplement your

Re: [ccp4bb] recommendations_on_purification

2012-03-26 Thread Kendall Nettles
I suspect that sometimes the protein chaperones the tag, which is solvent exposed some fraction of the time. Try very slow loading or batch binding. Kendall Nettles On Mar 26, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Petros Giastas peg...@pasteur.grmailto:peg...@pasteur.gr wrote: Dear all, I am expressing a

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Actually, DDM is the most successfully used detergent for membrane protein crystallization. See Newstead et al, Protein Sci. 17:466. But yes, the rule of thumb is that detergents that form smaller micelles give better diffracting crystals, but are more destabilizing. Ho Ho Leung Ng University

[ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Francois Berenger
Dear list, If I take all the fasta files for proteins in the PDB, are the sequences complete? I mean, do they have holes sometimes (missing amino acids)? Sorry for the maybe stupid question but I know that sometimes the PDB files have missing residues, I am hoping that it is not the case with

Re: [ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Bosch, Juergen
I think that depends on what the depositor considered complete. Just as an example the construct you cloned say from residue 20 - 380 would you consider that complete or would you consider only the sequence complete if it contained the first 20residues ? Regarding the gaps in terms of missing

Re: [ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday, 26 March 2012, Francois Berenger wrote: Dear list, If I take all the fasta files for proteins in the PDB, are the sequences complete? I mean, do they have holes sometimes (missing amino acids)? In theory the SEQRES records describe the sequence of the entity that was

Re: [ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Francois Berenger
On 03/27/2012 12:20 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote: On Monday, 26 March 2012, Francois Berenger wrote: Dear list, If I take all the fasta files for proteins in the PDB, are the sequences complete? I mean, do they have holes sometimes (missing amino acids)? In theory the SEQRES records describe the

Re: [ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Chad Simmons
The total model that fits the observable electron density should be the standard for the PDB FASTA file with the deposited structure factors, however, not all depositions contain a link to the expression construct details because many are not published, and I believe that it should be

Re: [ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-26 Thread David Briggs
Hi Matt, This doesn't really answer your question directly, but sidesteps around the issue - I wrote a little something on this exact subject not so long ago - http://xtaldave.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/on-protein-crystallisation/ (You can ignore the first 5 paragraphs of intro - it was written