[ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread Qixu Cai
Dear all, From the definition of CCP4 (http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/rotationmatrices.html), the polar angle (ϕ, ω, κ) can be visualised as rotation ϕ about Z, rotation ω about the new Y, rotation κ about the new Z. It seems the same as the ZXZ convention of eulerian angle definition. What's

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble with conversion from HKL to CCP4 file format

2014-03-27 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi, I added some explanation for the XSCALE output to the XDSwiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Xdsconv#explanation_of_typical_output . hope this helps, Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread Phil Evans
The polar angles ϕ, ω define the direction of an axis about which a rotation by angle κ occurs, i.e. a single rotation around a defined axis. This is different from Eulerian angles which define 3 successive rotations around principal axes On 27 Mar 2014, at 06:11, Qixu Cai caiq...@gmail.com

[ccp4bb] maltose binding protein

2014-03-27 Thread rana ibd
Dear CCP4 Does anyone know how to remove the maltose binding protein after cleavage from the target protein; I have tried gel filtration and ion exchange but with no luck, my protein is interacting with the MBP even after complete cleavage. I would be grateful for any help or suggestions Best

Re: [ccp4bb] maltose binding protein

2014-03-27 Thread rana ibd
Dear Mark Thank you for yor reply, and yes I have tried adding it to the maltose resin after cleavage but the MBP runs through with my protein, I have also tried 1M NaCl but with no luck and I also apply detergent after cleavage to the dialysis buffer because I usually dialyze after cleavage ,

[ccp4bb] symmetry related water

2014-03-27 Thread Urvashi Sharma
Dear All, I have newly obtained pdb model for my protein where the waters are not numbered according to the chain they belong to. I generated symmetry related molecules for some chains but the waters are together. I would appreciate suggesstions if there is a way out to get symmetry related water

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread David Waterman
This is a helpful introductory paper on the topic: http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2001/10/00/ba5006/ba5006.pdf -- David On 27 March 2014 06:11, Qixu Cai caiq...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, From the definition of CCP4 (http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/ rotationmatrices.html), the polar angle

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread Bernhard Rupp
The figures 4 and 5 in Chapter 11 BMC also help to visualize the difference http://www.ruppweb.org/garland/gallery/Ch11/pages/Biomolecular_Crystallography_Fig_11-04_PART2.htm http://www.ruppweb.org/garland/gallery/Ch11/pages/Biomolecular_Crystallography_Fig_11-05.htm Best, BR -Original

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Qixu Cai, maybe the confusion is due to that your quote seems incomplete. According to the html-side the 'visualisation' includes two back-rotations in addition to what you copied here, so there is at least one difference to the visualisation of

[ccp4bb] Thank you

2014-03-27 Thread rana ibd
Dear CCP4 Thank you for all your suggestions Best Regards Rana

[ccp4bb] sorry, sort of off topic

2014-03-27 Thread Dean Derbyshire
I'm after suggestions as to where the best place(s) for obtaining info on latest equipment - advances in techniques etc. Oh, for protein crystallisation and screening ahead of data collection! cheers Dean

Re: [ccp4bb] maltose binding protein

2014-03-27 Thread Kimi
Dear Rana, Did your protein come out from the void volume of gel filtration column? In my case, I have expressed a soluble aggregated protein which always like to interact with MBP. Kind regards, Wenhe On 27 Mar, 2014, at 6:26 pm, rana ibd rna19792...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear CCP4 Does

Re: [ccp4bb] maltose binding protein

2014-03-27 Thread R. M. Garavito
Rana, It is hard to answer you question without more details (MW and pI of your target protein). MBP binds very well to amylose resins and is usually quite easily bound to anion exchange resins. Did you just run a standard ion exchange protocol or try different pH regimes? However, you did

[ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-27 Thread Jarrod Mousa
Hi, I am trying to solve the structure of a membrane protein. The protein has 12 helices and I have a good molecular replacement model that seems to work for about half of the structure. I used chainsaw to convert the amino acid residues to that of my protein sequence, and the density fits the

[ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-27 Thread Jarrod Mousa
I am also trying to merge data from multiple crystals that I collected from. I have tried to reindex the data in CCP4 after indexing in iimosflm, and then put these .mtz files through sortmtz before scala, but I keep getting an error in sort mtz: From ccp4_lwbat: warning: attempt to add new

[ccp4bb] cTruncate problem

2014-03-27 Thread Jarrod Mousa
I can index my data through imosflm with no problems, but when I try to scale using aimless, the program will not run if I also run truncate (or old truncate). Here is the error message I get below. Could anyone elaborate on what this means? Thanks. P.S. I can take the scaled .mtz file from

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-27 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Jarrod, try pointless and aimless to merge the data, this should get rid of this error message. Otherwise you would have to renumber the batches, which might be tedious and also unnecessary since pointless has been around. Best, Tim On

Re: [ccp4bb] cTruncate problem

2014-03-27 Thread Ian Tickle
On 27 March 2014 14:23, Jarrod Mousa jmo...@ufl.edu wrote: Using I/sigI 3 with completeness above 0.85, the estimated useful Resolution Range of this data is 17.964A to 8.982A Hi, I would imagine that the message above has something to do with it. Cheers -- Ian

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-27 Thread Tassos Papageorgiou
Hi, You may also try BLEND to choose the optimal data sets before scaling and merging Foadi J, Aller P, Alguel Y, Cameron A, Axford D, Owen RL, Armour W, Waterman DG, Iwata S Evans G (2013) Clustering procedures for the optimal selection of data sets from multiple crystals in

Re: [ccp4bb] sorry, sort of off topic

2014-03-27 Thread Navdeep Sidhu
Hi Dean: Why not check out this excellent book: Bergfors, T., Editor. Protein Crystallization: Second Edition. 2009. International University Line, La Jolla, California, 500 pp. http://xray.bmc.uu.se/terese/buybook.html By the way, the 1st edition has some extra information that's

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-27 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Hi Jarrod, I think these 5 helices are either slightly misplaced, or somewhat disordered. How does the main-chain density look like? Do you see a discrete main-chain, or is the main-chain blurred and does the helix look like a blurred cylinder? If the main-chain is clear, I would take off all

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
According to the html-side the 'visualisation' includes two back-rotations in addition to what you copied here, so there is at least one difference to the visualisation of the Eulerian angles. Right- it says: This can also be visualised as rotation ϕ about Z, rotation ω about the new Y,

[ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions

2014-03-27 Thread Tom Peat
Hello All, I am appealing to the community as I don't seem to be able to find through Google what I am looking for, and I just don't have the ability to look through every structure in the PDB to find this. I have what I think is an interesting case: a two domain protein structure with a

Re: [ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions

2014-03-27 Thread Martin Hällberg
Hi Tom, For acidic side-chains, these kind of interactions are described by Maria Flocco and Sherry Mowbray in: Strange bedfellows: interactions between acidic side-chains in proteins. J. Mol. Biol. (1995) 254, 96-105. Best regards, Martin On Mar 28, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Tom Peat

Re: [ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions

2014-03-27 Thread Patrick Loll
Two Arg side chains stack next to each other in ferritin and in GST (see, for example, Arg-59 and its symmetry mate in 3F33). I expect there are other examples, but these two come readily to mind. Cheers, Pat On 27 Mar 2014, at 7:11 PM, Tom Peat wrote: Hello All, I am appealing to the

Re: [ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions

2014-03-27 Thread Joel Tyndall
Tom, I would think the case can be made for sharing a proton (one ionised and one not) in either case but more so for acidic residues. See HIV protease Asp-Asp as a well-established example Hope this helps J -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK]

Re: [ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions

2014-03-27 Thread Tom Peat
Hello Joel, I like the example of HIV protease, but in this case these Asp residues are found in the active site of the protein, and unless there is substrate (or inhibitor) in the active site, these would be solvent exposed (unless I'm looking at the wrong pair of Asp residues). In the

Re: [ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions

2014-03-27 Thread Chad Brautigam
Tom, How about Magalhaes et al., J. Protein Chem., Vol. 13, p 195? Chad From: Tom Peat tom.p...@csiro.au To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] question on charge charge interactions Hello Joel, I like