Re: [ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-29 Thread Alexander Batyuk
Dear Tassos, Do you know by chance whether BLEND is available? Best wishes, Alex On 27 Mar 2014, at 16:06, Tassos Papageorgiou tassos.papageorg...@btk.fi wrote: Hi, You may also try BLEND to choose the optimal data sets before scaling and merging Foadi J, Aller P, Alguel Y, Cameron

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-29 Thread Andreas Förster
Contact James Foadi. http://diamond.ac.uk/Beamlines/Mx/I24/Staff/Foadi.html Andreas On 29/03/2014 1:21, Alexander Batyuk wrote: Dear Tassos, Do you know by chance whether BLEND is available? Best wishes, Alex

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging Data from Multiple Crystals

2014-03-29 Thread David Waterman
Dear Alex BLEND will be released soon through the CCP4 Updates. In the meantime, the easiest way to try it out is to install one of the nightly builds from here: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dev/nightly/. The usual warnings apply. What you obtain that way may not be (fully) tested, and may differ

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Edward As far as Eulerian rotations go, in the 'Crowther' description the 2nd rotation can occur either about the new (rotated) Y axis or about the old (unrotated) Y axis, and similarly for the 3rd rotation about the new or old Z. Obviously the same thing applies to polar angles since they

[ccp4bb] Usage of gels in protein crystallography

2014-03-29 Thread Javier Gonzalez
Dear CCP4BBers, I would very much appreciate any information or resources regarding usage of gels in order to achieve supersaturation/crystallization through liquid diffusion. It appears to me that, although this crystallization method is usually claimed as a powerful technique, it is very

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Edward Berry
Thanks, Ian! I agree it may have to do with being used to computer graphics, where x,y,z are fixed and the coordinates rotate. But it still doesn't make sense: If the axes rotate along with the molecule, in the catenated operators of the polar angles, after the first two operators the z axis

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread George Sheldrick
There are good arguiments for using quaternions rather than Eulerian (or other) angles anyway, this is very well explained in the paper *Quaternions *in *molecular modeling*

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Edward Berry
Edward Berry 03/29/14 5:22 PM Thanks, Ian! I agree it may have to do with being used to computer graphics, where x,y,z are fixed and the coordinates rotate. But it still doesn't make sense: -My mistake- in computer graphics x,y,z rotates with the atomic coordinates relative to screen

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Ian Tickle
Ed, the screen z axis is not the same axis in the molecule for the first and last rotations, except in the special case beta = 0 or 180. The fallacy in your argument is that you're implicitly assuming that rotations commute, whereas of course they don't i.e. Rz.Ry.Rz is not the same as Rz.Rz.Ry

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-29 Thread Ian Tickle
The main reason for using Eulerian (or polar) angles is speed (not for nothing is Crowther's implementation called the Fast Rotation Function). Expression of the rotation in terms of Eulerian or polar angles makes it possible to express the Patterson functions in terms of orthogonal spherical