Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge, Rmeas, I/sigma, Mn(I/sd)

2014-04-17 Thread Manfred S. Weiss
That's not quite correct. If N goes to infinity, i.e. at high or very high data multiplicity Rmerge approaches Rmeas (Rrim). At this point it does not matter whether you write Rmerge or Rmeas equals 0.8 * sd(I) / I For low multiplicity Rrim (or Rmeas) = 0.8*sd(i)/I is the correct expression.

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge, Rmeas, I/sigma, Mn(I/sd)

2014-04-17 Thread Bernhard Rupp
If N goes to infinity, i.e. at high or very high data multiplicity Rmerge approaches Rmeas (Rrim). Sure. And there is nothing incorrect, because the formulas are identical. 0.8*sd(i)/I = 0.8/(I/sd(i)) But if you sum also over a shell of hs, that notation is incomplete losing the (or Mn).

[ccp4bb] relation between redundancy and total reflection

2014-04-17 Thread Faisal Tarique
Dear all Can anybody please tell me how redundancy is related to total no. of observations and number of unique observations..what is the best way to identify and locate these values in a data processed through HKl2000..I know that completeness, redundancy, Rsymm, I/isig etc can easily be located

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] relation between redundancy and total reflection

2014-04-17 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Faisal, redundancy is total no. of observed reflections divided by no. of unique reflections, i.e. how often each unique reflection has been measured on average. Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Faisal Tarique Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. April

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] relation between redundancy and total reflection

2014-04-17 Thread Faisal Tarique
Dear Herman Where these values can be located..i.e. total no of reflections and no of unique reflections..which processed log file is the optimum one to look into..?? regards Faisal On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:48 PM, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: Dear Faisal, redundancy is total no.

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] relation between redundancy and total reflection

2014-04-17 Thread Jim Pflugrath
If one is using the HKL GUI, then click on the menu bar button Report and read the report that is generated. One caveat is that HKL will count any systematically absent reflections in the input files as part of the total number of observations. I forget if scalepack counts the systematically

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] relation between redundancy and total reflection

2014-04-17 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi Faisal - These numbers can be found near the bottom of the Scalepack log file. In HKL2000, this has a default name of scale.log but you can rename it to anything you want in the Scaling window of HKL2000. You will find a table that looks like this: Summary of reflection

[ccp4bb] P212121

2014-04-17 Thread Thomas RORET
Dear all, one of my colleagues has probably a twin and he can't find the good solution or the twin law. Using XDS he has obtained the space group P212121 and a unit cell of a= 55.54 b= 60.72 c= 121.4 and all angles are 90°. In this unit cell b is approximately equal to 1/2 c. Datas are good

Re: [ccp4bb] P212121

2014-04-17 Thread Campeotto, Ivan
Dear Thomas, There are many options to test before a diagnosis can be made. When do you say that the electron density is bad, do you mean that it looks like a map for a lower resolution dataset or do you see other problems? What is the analysis from TRUNCATE? Do you see any anormality (i.e.

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] relation between redundancy and total reflection

2014-04-17 Thread Faisal Tarique
Thank you every body..your suggestions really helped me and i got my answer as well. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Matthew Franklin mfrank...@nysbc.orgwrote: Hi Faisal - These numbers can be found near the bottom of the Scalepack log file. In HKL2000, this has a default name of

Re: [ccp4bb] metal ion coordination

2014-04-17 Thread David Briggs
Hi Faisal, Take a look at Marjorie Harding's website http://tanna.bch.ed.ac.uk Loads of information there. Hth, Dave Dr David C Briggs PhD http://about.me/david_briggs On 17 Apr 2014 21:16, Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all Can anybody please explain what is the

Re: [ccp4bb] metal ion coordination

2014-04-17 Thread Jim Pflugrath
And what if the site(s) is(are) a mixture of bound metal ions? What if Mg++, Ca++, Na+, Mn++, et al. are bound at the same site(s)? Can the diffraction data rule that out? From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Faisal Tarique

Re: [ccp4bb] metal ion coordination

2014-04-17 Thread Thomas Edwards
Hi David and Faisal, That’s a great page. I would also like to recommend the “CheckMyMetal” server: http://csgid.org/csgid/metal_sites/ In addition to the Harding reference one of my favorites is this one: Zheng,H. et al. (2008) J. Inorg. Biochem., 102, 1765-1776. Data mining of metal ion

Re: [ccp4bb] metal ion coordination

2014-04-17 Thread Roger Rowlett
See below. Ceeers, ___ Roger S. Rowlett Gordon Dorothy Kline Professor Department of Chemistry Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 tel: (315)-228-7245 ofc: (315)-228-7395 fax: (315)-228-7935 email: rrowl...@colgate.edu On 4/17/2014 4:13 PM,

Re: [ccp4bb] suggestion on improving sea urchin like crystals

2014-04-17 Thread william lee
Dear All, Thank you very much for all your suggestions, I guess I will busy for some time now. I have list out the suggestions I got for whom might be interested. Improving crystal shapes: l Add 10-20% organic solvent (menthol, ethanol, propanol, butanol, acetone, etc) to