Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-03 Thread David Schuller
On 10/02/11 16:56, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I would like to soak my crystals in bicarbonate (a possible substrate), but the crystals have grown--and only grow--in pH 5.2-6.0, so the bicarb/CO2 will just keep evolving out of the solution and reliquishing its hydroxyls until

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-03 Thread Richard Gillilan
Hi Jacob, high-pressure cryocrystallography methods may be useful in this case. I copied your question to Chae Un Kim here at MacCHESS and he forwards this suggestion: -- Hi Richard, I think pressure cryocooling might be useful. They may want to check

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 15:56 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: Transfer them to higher pH, and hope for the best? Consider crosslinking your crystals with glutaraldehyde. They will then became virtually insoluble, although it's possible that you may lose diffraction at elevated pH. -- Hurry up

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-03 Thread Mathews, Irimpan I.
PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH Dear Crystallographers, I would like to soak my crystals in bicarbonate (a possible substrate), but the crystals have grown--and only grow--in pH 5.2-6.0, so the bicarb/CO2 will just keep evolving out of the solution and reliquishing

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-02 Thread Roger Rowlett
You can't change the pKa of CO2, which is 6.3. Any attempt to grow bicarb complexes below pH 7.5 will be problematic due to CO2 bubble formation, which may crack the crystal. What we do in these situations is to soak crystals in a cryo solution at a higher pH for as long as practical, then

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I would like to soak my crystals in bicarbonate (a possible substrate), but the crystals have grown--and only grow--in pH 5.2-6.0, so the bicarb/CO2 will just keep evolving out of the solution and reliquishing its hydroxyls until the pH is elevated

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-02 Thread Bosch, Juergen
You might want to consider misusing the Xe-chamber which a couple of labs and synchrotrons bought in the late 90's to derivative crystals with Xenon. Instead of flushing the chamber with Xenon you could flush it with CO2 then plunge freeze your crystals within the chamber. careful