Re: [ccp4bb] Binding constants/kinetics for crystallisation

2012-12-09 Thread Feld, Geoffrey Keith
Good points have been brought up; here's one more to consider from my experience. If you are going to run SEC prior to crystallization, I would highly recommend running a native gel of the peak you collect. Especially if you don't know the stoichiometry or if the stoichiometry is complex. I crystal

Re: [ccp4bb] Binding constants/kinetics for crystallisation

2012-12-07 Thread Chittaranjan Das
in or protein-nucleic acid complex and their crystallizability. I would like to know, if you find any. Chitta - Original Message - From: "Roger Pickman" To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 10:11:15 AM Subject: [ccp4bb] Binding constan

Re: [ccp4bb] Binding constants/kinetics for crystallisation

2012-12-07 Thread Enrico Stura
Dear Roger, I disagree with Ganesh. Knowing the stoichiometry is not necessary. Stoichiometry may need adjusting to reflect the relative solubility of the interacting partners under the various crystallization conditions. See also: Stura, E.A., Graille, M., Taussig, M.J., Sutton, B.J. Gore,

Re: [ccp4bb] Binding constants/kinetics for crystallisation

2012-12-07 Thread Ganesh Natrajan
Dear Roger, In my humble opinion, the qualitative knowledge that the complex actually forms (established through pull down assays, gel filtration etc) is probably far more important than the Kd values in solution. In any case, the crystallization is done at very high concentrations, far abov

[ccp4bb] Binding constants/kinetics for crystallisation

2012-12-07 Thread Roger Pickman
Dear all - is there a rule of thumb for favourable values of Kd, kon and koff of protein-protein or protein-dna complexes for protein crystallisation? Are these measurements useful in crystallisation, or should one just put it down a gel filtration column, hope for a complex and not worry? If an