[ccp4bb] Fw: Re: [ccp4bb] Twinning

2007-10-23 Thread Jorge Iulek
John, One other point to be added, although that might not justify all your observations, is to be sure that the R-free set was chosen respecting the twin law. Both phenix and CNS (not automatically) can do this. Of course, as pointed before, when you change your R-free set, you should

Re: [ccp4bb] Fw: Re: [ccp4bb] Twinning

2007-10-23 Thread Jorge Iulek
Yes, I should explain better that might not justify all your observations; in more details, if such care (free set considered the twin law) was not taken it is probable that the gap between R and R-free is even larger, as Anastassis points. Might R-free become a reasonable value in this

Re: [ccp4bb] Fw: Re: [ccp4bb] Twinning

2007-10-23 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
But, if that was the case, wouldn't you expect the opposite, Rfree to be too close to R ? here they appear to be too different ! in other words: if Rfree is not 'really free due to twin law' i would expect R/Rfree to be too close, not too far ! A. On Oct 23, 2007, at 13:58, Jorge Iulek