Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-22 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? Hi Jon, You can indeed get data with 1 micron(ish) beam. See for example http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2008/02/00/wd5082/index.html Different question is whether there is any benefit in using micron size beam. It is subject of much work

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-22 Thread Thomas Earnest
AM *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:03, Thomas Earnest wrote: The other use for these ultra-small beams is to illuminate part of a larger xtal to find the best diffracting (or leat mosaic

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-22 Thread James Holton
According to the Undisputed Source of All Human Knowledge (wikipedia): Micro is an English prefix of Greek origin that refers to an object as being smaller than an object or scale of focus, in contrast with macro. So perhaps smaller than the regular beam really is the best definition of

[ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Richard Gillilan
Just an interesting question of semantics that annoyingly comes up from time to time when people are comparing x-ray beam diameters. What counts as microbeam? Of course micro has the precise meaning in SI as being a factor of 10^-6. The problem is that the prefix micro just means extremely

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Sanishvili, Ruslan
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? Just an interesting question of semantics that annoyingly comes up from time to time when people are comparing x-ray beam diameters. What counts as microbeam? Of course micro has the precise meaning in SI as being a factor

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Jon Wright
Sanishvili, Ruslan wrote: .. Reasons for discriminating 5-10 micron beams (minibeam) from ca 1 micron (microbeam) might have been not so much their size but what it involved to achieve these sizes. Might I ask - do you really get data from 1 micron protein crystals? The reduction in

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Sanishvili, Ruslan
21, 2009 3:36 PM To: Sanishvili, Ruslan Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? Sanishvili, Ruslan wrote: .. Reasons for discriminating 5-10 micron beams (minibeam) from ca 1 micron (microbeam) might have been not so much their size but what it involved

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Nave, C (Colin)
Of Sanishvili, Ruslan Sent: 21 April 2009 22:21 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? Hi Jon, You can indeed get data with 1 micron(ish) beam. See for example http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2008/02/00/wd5082/index.html Different question is whether

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Sanishvili, Ruslan
: Nave, C (Colin) [mailto:colin.n...@diamond.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:44 PM To: Sanishvili, Ruslan; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? Hi Yes good data with a micron size beam but, in this case, the path length was 20- 30 micron. I presume one would

Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam?

2009-04-21 Thread Thomas Earnest
: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Sanishvili, Ruslan Sent: 21 April 2009 22:21 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How small is a microbeam? Hi Jon, You can indeed get data with 1 micron(ish) beam. See for example http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2008/02