Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-21 Thread Charlie Bond
I find that in a large proportion of cases depth-cued graphics without stereo are enough (e.g. quickly examining a structure, rebuilding in a refined map, tracing at 2.4 A), and indeed I do most of my graphics work on a laptop. But, when you are lost in a poorly-phased 3.5 A map of a structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread David J. Schuller
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 21:09 -0700, P Hubbard wrote: Hi all, I am doing a survey on computer usage in crystallography. The questionnaire can be found on the following web page: http://www.bioscienceforum.com/survey.html ... I don't care for the way several questions are posed. Examples:

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Bart Hazes
I don't expect the I'd be willing to assemble one from parts for under USD $2000 crowd will be large but you don't have to do the assembling to get all you need well under the $2000 mark. The times that you needed the fastest computer money could buy and still spent lots of time in the library

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread P Hubbard
appreciated. Paul From: David J. Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: David J. Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:18:44 -0400 On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 21:09 -0700, P Hubbard wrote: Hi all, I

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread P Hubbard
is for crystallographers. I personally think its a wonderful teaching tool which is currently under-utilized. Paul From: Bart Hazes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:28:25 -0600 I

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Kevin Cowtan
More likely the issue is that some of us do not find stereo to be necessary of beneficial for crystallographic model building. In which case, given the power of modern PCs and graphics cards, a basic off-the-shelf PC costing $1000/£500 is completely adaquate for typical structure solution and

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Bart Hazes
is for crystallographers. I personally think its a wonderful teaching tool which is currently under-utilized. Paul From: Bart Hazes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:28

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Fritz, Tim (NIH/NIDDK) [E]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography Hi, If you build a system without stereo graphics, and use a standard monitor, I agree. In-fact it can be done for for under ~$1000. However, stereo systems are rather expensive (LCD stereo systems are VERY expensive). I

Re: [ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Paul Emsley
aol Me too. /aol I use coot quite a lot too. In my case though, I don't have hardware rendering because I don't know how to enable it and can't be bothered to find out. It's fine as it it - spending more than 1000 GBP on a computer to run CCP4 and Coot seems excessive (I don't use stereo in

[ccp4bb] Survey on computer usage in crystallography

2007-06-19 Thread P Hubbard
Hi all, I am doing a survey on computer usage in crystallography. The questionnaire can be found on the following web page: http://www.bioscienceforum.com/survey.html Its point-and-click, with 10 short questions, and should take under 2 minutes to complete. You are not requested to enter