Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-30 Thread Matthew Bowler
While there is no systematic study (I think) on this we have observed RH control systems and concentration of solutes can have the same effect - Photosystem 1 crystals were dehydrated by transferring them from 20% to 40% PEG6000 resulting in a smaller unit cell and better diffraction

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Matthew Bowler
Hi Andre, a very effective method is the use of a humidity control device. It has the great advantage that you can characterize changes that occur and also move straight to data collection. There are several HC1 devices in Europe (developed here at the EMBL and available at Diamond, BESSY and

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Enrico Stura
Dear Andre, 66% solvent is on the high side but not a good reason for poor resolution. Other with similaa solvent content have achieved resolutions of 1.5 Ang. and even better. I would screen at a lower protein concentration. It will require more precipitant and you should end up with less

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Singh, Harkewal
/2012/01/31/jbc.M111.327536 Best Regards Harkewal From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Andre Godoy [andre_go...@yahoo.com.br] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:18 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
I wonder if there is a big difference between dehydrating in a drop, where the amount of mother liquor is essentially unlimited, and dehydrating a mounted crystal in something like the FMS, where there is only a thin film of ML on the surface. In the latter case, once the surface fluid is gone,

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Danilo Belviso
Dear Andre, you could try with the protocol described in the following paper Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2013 69,920-3. Using high-throughput in situ plate screening to evaluate the effect of dehydration on protein crystals. Douangamath A, Aller P, Lukacik P, Sanchez-Weatherby J,

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Leonid Sazanov
Hi, you could try dehydration in microdialysis buttons - this allows for slow gradual increase in PEG over few days and full control of other parameters, including lowering salt concentration. It was the only dehydration method that worked well for our large membrane protein:

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Arka Chakraborty
Hi Andre, Are you sure that the cryoprotectant has been optimized?..I am sure you must have already done it but just in case..sometimes the cryo protectant which makes the ice rings disappear is not the best one and playing around that concentration as well as different alternatives can have a