[ccp4bb] refmac and DNA bond angles

2011-09-14 Thread Gregory Bowman
I'm running into some geometry problems with my DNA model after refinement with refmac (version 5.5.0109), and would appreciate any feedback. The problem is that the angles for many of the glycosidic bonds are 2 to 4 degrees off of the ideal values, and so are several standard deviations

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA bond angles

2011-09-14 Thread Gregory Bowman
OK, I updated ccp4 to 6.2.0 (and refmac to 5.6.0117) and now the angles coming out close to the ideal values. Also, I see now the the MODRES in the pdb header from before was tell future refmac runs to rename those residues - which confused the newer refmac version as it thought the DT (renamed

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Francis E Reyes
Is ' U ' now the standard vs ' U' ? I'm used to right justified letters for RNA residues in the residue field. This is with a recent refinement with refmac 5.6.0117 . And of course this switch in naming convention breaks compatibility with molprobity (which requires right justified letters

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Phoebe Rice
Original message Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:23:17 -0600 From: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK (on behalf of Francis E Reyes francis.re...@colorado.edu) Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA) To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Is ' U ' now the standard vs ' U' ? I'm used

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Francis E Reyes
Hi Garib Thanks for the quick reply! Refmac however is writing my pdb's as with the residue letter in the centered position. Is the newest pdb requiring centered residue letters for RNA? F On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Garib N Murshudov wrote: Refmac will read right or left justified

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Yes, new version of the dictionary uses U. Refmac will read right or left justified residue names, however pdb may use only one of them. There are some backward compatibility code/dictionary elements. For example Ad/Ar are also accepted. However it is encouraged to use new pdb v2.3

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Hi Francis Is that newer version of refmac? regards Garib On 12 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi Garib Thanks for the quick reply! Refmac however is writing my pdb's as with the residue letter in the centered position. Is the newest pdb requiring centered residue

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-11 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
Le 11/09/2011 00:23, Ed Pozharski a écrit : On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: A, C and G are RNA nucleotides. T is (mostly) not, its RNA-equivalent is uridine phosphate, U. Right, that was my suspicion. But I thought that RNA bases would be Xr, not Xd.

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-10 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
On 09/09/11 17:29, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 16:58 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: Perhaps the Nd/DN issue was solved between revisions 3470 and 3628 ? Indeed. I just built the rev 3633 and it works fine. Autobuild scripts used to have some problems on Lucid, but this

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: A, C and G are RNA nucleotides. T is (mostly) not, its RNA-equivalent is uridine phosphate, U. Right, that was my suspicion. But I thought that RNA bases would be Xr, not Xd. Plus, refmac does not complain about missing

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 16:58 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: Perhaps the Nd/DN issue was solved between revisions 3470 and 3628 ? Indeed. I just built the rev 3633 and it works fine. Autobuild scripts used to have some problems on Lucid, but this time it worked perfectly. This evolved

[ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
After switching (finally) to 6.2.0 and therefore to Refmac 5.6.0117 I have found a problem working with DNA that I have not seen with 6.1.13/5.5.0109. Namely, - if I use the pdb file produced by Coot (0.7.pre-1.3470) that seems to output DNA as Ad/Td/Gd/Cd no matter what the input names were,

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-08 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
On 08/09/11 15:35, Ed Pozharski wrote: After switching (finally) to 6.2.0 and therefore to Refmac 5.6.0117 I have found a problem working with DNA that I have not seen with 6.1.13/5.5.0109. Namely, - if I use the pdb file produced by Coot (0.7.pre-1.3470) that seems to output DNA as