Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Frank von Delft
Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread George Sheldrick
I think that more people read wikis than contribute to them, so this 'experiment' (see below) is a little biased. On the other hand, it is often easier to put a question to CCP4bb than to search for the answer in wikis and other documentation, however well organized they are. Kay: can you see

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Frank von Delft
I couldn't help noticing the use of the passive voice in the last sentence... :) Which is the real problem: wikis are an SEP, a Somebody-Else's-Problem. Emails are not. (And this interesting meta-conversation would never have happened on a wiki.) On 14/02/2014 09:15, George Sheldrick

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear George, Ever since I read your message that gave rise to this thread I have had a few remarks in mind that other preoccupations have kept me from sharing, but perhaps there is still room for them among the numerous contributions to this topic that have been made since. What

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Bert Van-Den-Berg
be proud of CCP4BB! Bert From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Gerard Bricogne [g...@globalphasing.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:47 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs Dear George, Ever since I

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Paul Emsley
On 14/02/14 09:15, George Sheldrick wrote: Perhaps someone should make a list of the questions most frequently asked on CCP4bb and the most helpful replies that they generated. This could even be made into a wiki. RIP minor-groove :-(

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Robbie Joosten
Verzonden: 14-2-2014 8:21 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs Nat, that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page ! The idea is that everybody benefits: experienced crystallographers/biologists can concentrate

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Tim Gruene
my Windows Phone Van: Kay Diederichs Verzonden: 14-2-2014 8:21 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs Nat, that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page ! The idea

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs Nat, that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page ! The idea is that everybody benefits: experienced crystallographers/biologists can concentrate on the new

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing, The is clearly a big need

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Pierre Rizkallah
Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Nat Echols
questions. IMO the QA section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Tim Gruene
of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Eugene Valkov
questions. IMO the QA section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Bosch, Juergen
gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Francis Reyes
is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Tim Gruene
section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread George Sheldrick
It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing, The is clearly a big need for it, and those of us who try to keep out of wet-labs would not have to wade though it all. George On 02/12/2014 03:05

[ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Boaz Shaanan
complicated in terms of handling morebb's. Just wondering. Cheers, Boaz הודעה מקורית מאת George Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de תאריך: 12/02/2014 18:03 (GMT02:00) אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK נושא Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP

Re: [ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Enrico Stura
, Boaz הודעה מקורית מאת George Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de תאריך: 12/02/2014 18:03 (GMT+02:00) אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK נושא Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Frank von Delft
Don't know... I'm quite happy to wade through the wet stuff, keeps me in touch with the stuff that people actually struggle with. On 12/02/2014 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Paul Emsley
On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing, The is clearly a big need for it, and those of us who try to keep out of wet-labs would not have to wade

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Kolar, Carol
Center Omaha, NE 68198-7696 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Paul Emsley [pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:22 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing

[ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Boaz Shaanan
:00) אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK נושא Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs It's not an e-mail bulletin board, but Researchgate seems to be quite popular for wet lab questions. IMO the QA section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent