Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-02-04 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi James, Am 03.02.2009 um 17:38 schrieb James Holton: Hey Dirk, You're wrong. ;) okay, thanks a lot! ;-) The remarkable part of this is that the integrated spot intensity (photons) is essentially invariant with how you divide up the unit cells into mosaic domains. Well, okay, if

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-02-03 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear James, what an interesting discussion! Am 30.01.2009 um 19:42 schrieb James Holton: ... I think the coherence length is related to how TWO different photons can interfere with each other, and this is a rare event indeed. It has nothing to do with x-ray diffraction as we know it. No

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-31 Thread Nave, C (Colin)
was taking it to mean the total number of photons in a spot (sometimes called the integrated intensity). Then of course he is correct. Colin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of James Holton Sent: Fri 30/01/2009 18:42 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-31 Thread James Holton
After conversing with Bernhard a bit offline I think the relevant question is: How far apart can two electrons in the crystal be before their scattering becomes incoherent ... as in no longer interfering with each other in the way Bragg described. The answer to this is about 10 um if the

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-30 Thread Nave, C (Colin)
of Ethan Merritt Sent: Thu 29/01/2009 19:24 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:59:23 Bernhard Rupp wrote: Ok, following seems to be correct: a) interaction length = mean free path : relevant for absorption b

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-30 Thread Ian Tickle
Message- From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rupp Sent: 29 January 2009 18:59 To: 'Nave, C (Colin)'; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length Ok, following seems to be correct

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-30 Thread James Holton
Ethan Merritt wrote: My impression is that the coherence length from synchrotron sources is generally larger than the x-ray path through a protein crystal. But I have not gone through the exercise of plugging in specific storage ring energies and undulator parameters to confirm this impression.

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-29 Thread V. Nagarajan
From memory, correlation length is the length during which the phase of the electric field is preserved. It's typically computed by applying time (pulse width)- frequency (converted to length) uncertainty principle. V. Nagarajan JAN Scientific, Inc. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-29 Thread Nave, C (Colin)
Bernard I guess this came from Aren't detwinning methods appropriate only in the case of true twin domains which are larger than the X-ray photon correlation length in order for the assumption to be valid that |F|^2 from each domain can be summed? This wouldn't give rise to the apparent 'diffuse

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-29 Thread Bernhard Rupp
reasonable? BR From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nave, C (Colin) Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:14 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length Bernard I guess this came from Aren't detwinning methods

Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length

2009-01-29 Thread Ethan Merritt
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nave, C (Colin) Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:14 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] X-ray photon correlation length Bernard I guess this came from Aren't detwinning methods appropriate only