Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-22 Thread Fengxia Liu
Hi all, yesterday i have tried annealing, no significant improvement. Thank you so much for all those suggestions. Summary: 1. check diffraction on RT. 2. dehydrate crystal, many methods 3. try annealing 4. grow crystal in presence of cryo 5. try smaller crystal, sometimes small crystal is

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Brad Bennett
Hi Fengxia- How about increasing the PEG% so you don't have to add as much other cryoprotectant? Also, have you tried annealing the crystals? I've had success with this when I've had samples diffract similarly. The simplest way is by blocking the cryostream for 2-3 seconds (repeat 1-2 times) and

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Enrico Stura
Fengxia, From the images it is clear that the degree of smearing is variable. From this you can deduce that you should be able to get sharp images by finding better cryo-conditions. There is no magic involved. Your crystallization conditions have little precipitant and a lot of water.

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Kelly Daughtry
Fengxia, To me the diffraction appears as if the crystals did not freeze well. So the best option seems to be annealing (as already suggested) or to try different cryo-protectants. Did you perform a room-temperature mount? If so, were the spots nice and round (suggesting the cryo is the cause of

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
loops with care - maybe go with litholoops? Martyn Martyn Symmons MRC-MBU Cambridge - Original Message From: Kelly Daughtry kddau...@bu.edu To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Thursday, 21 January, 2010 14:27:58 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction Fengxia, To me

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Ho Leung Ng
In addition to the good suggestions already posted, I also suggest: 1. Exploring how your cryoprotection is done in addition to screening chemical conditions. For example, you may want to test longer equilibration in cryoprotectant, stepwise increase in cryoprotect., very fast swish through