Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Ganesh Natrajan
Hi, I guess Cacodylate is safe as long as you don't come into direct contact with it, or dispose it off in a careless fashion. Aren't there substances in biochemical labs which are a equally if not more harmful, like acryamide or Ethidium Bromide, for instance? But I agree that it should be

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Hi Frank, I worked with protein purification buffers and crystallization buffers containing 20mM potassium cacodylate for five years or so. And yes, the only precaution I used was gloves while weighing the chemical and while making buffers etc. And not just me, but all of my former colleagues

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Boaz Shaanan
or 972-8-646-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Raji Edayathumangalam [r...@brandeis.edu] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 3:26 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate? Hi Frank, I worked with protein purification

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Well originally we got these in cacodylate and not much else would diffract. http://www.pdb.org/pdb/explore/materialsAndMethods.do?structureId=2EPH But nowadays I have another conditions, which does not require cacodylate and works well with Hepes. Jürgen On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Frank von

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Mooers, Blaine H.M. (HSC)
Hi Frank, In our hands, some RNAs only crystallize out of cacodylate buffers. We would otherwise stop using it out of health and safety concerns. Blaine Blaine Mooers Assistant Professor Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center S.L. Young

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Roger Rowlett
Cacodylate, being an arsenic compound, is moderately toxic. You do have to ingest it, however, for it to be toxic. Normal lab protection should be sufficient. It is any more concerning to me than lithium salts, mercury, acrylamide, ethidium bromide, etc. Having said that, we usually abandon

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
Math may be frightening but cacodylate seems not... With a MW of 214 for the trihydrate a 70 kg clone needs at the 0.5 g/kg LD50 to consume about 35 g of it, which is 0.16M. Of a 0.1M solution you'd therefore have to drink 1.6 L or almost 4 pints. So, prost, cheers, gsuffa, bescheid,

Re: [ccp4bb] usefulness of cacodylate?

2012-11-09 Thread Bryan Lepore
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Frank von Delft frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk wrote Anybody know a) how hazardous is cacodylate? b) does it really matter for crystallization screens? [...] (We're being subjected to a safety review.) I know you are in the UK but this wouldn't have