[ccp4bb] CCP4 School in Osaka

2010-09-16 Thread Charles Ballard
Dear All there will be a CCP4 school at Osaka University from 8 - 12 November 2010. The aim of this school will be to cover all aspects of the structure solution process in macromolecular crystallography, starting from data processing, through phasing and refinement, and ending with validation

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear Ian and contributors to this interesting thread, (please, scroll down a little bit) Am 15.09.10 23:34, schrieb Ian Tickle: I should just like to point out that the main source of the disagreement here seems to be that people have very different ideas about what a 'model' is or should be.

[ccp4bb] Most Disagreeable Reflections

2010-09-16 Thread Rex Palmer
Dear CCP4 users The Shelx lst file includes the entry: Most Disagreeable Reflections (* if suppressed or used for Rfree) and includes 50 hkl's with h k lFo^2 Fc^2 Delta(F^2)/esd Fc/Fc(max) Resolution(A) Is there a corresponding or similar facility in CCP4? Rex Palmer

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H

2010-09-16 Thread Sanishvili, Ruslan
Hi Pavel, Note that in the ultra-high resolution structure of aldose reductase http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15146478 we didn't see all (or most) hydrogens. So, the converse question one could ask is why we didn't see all of them? Was it only because of higher B-factors or because some

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H- Are they or are they not? Additional experiments are needed

2010-09-16 Thread Felix Frolow
Well , maybe they are there (hydrogens), maybe they are not (also depends on location). They, or something else also boils sometimes. I also understand from some other publications such as doi:10.1107/S090904509002192 (cyclosporine) that hydrogen abstraction is irreversible. Is it supported my

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H

2010-09-16 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Nukri, Note that in the ultra-high resolution structure of aldose reductase http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15146478 we didn't see all (or most) hydrogens. So, the converse question one could ask is why we didn't see all of them? Was it only because of higher B-factors or because

[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral positions available

2010-09-16 Thread Sylvia Fanucchi
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Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 16 September 2010 01:25:12 am Dirk Kostrewa wrote: so, wouldn't be the deposition of the final model's Fcalc, Phic (and their weights) along with the final coordinates be the best solution? The final Fcalc are our best model and can be used to reproduce the final statistics

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Dirk, so, wouldn't be the deposition of the final model's Fcalc, Phic (and their weights) along with the final coordinates be the best solution? The final Fcalc are our best model and can be used to reproduce the final statistics (which would remove the sfcheck annoyance) and to

[ccp4bb] Parrot versus prime-and-switch-phasing

2010-09-16 Thread Yamei Yu
Hi all, To decrease model bias from molecular replacement we can either use Parrot or prime-and-switch-phasing. What's the difference between these two programs? Which one is better? Thank you very much! Yamei Yu

Re: [ccp4bb] Parrot versus prime-and-switch-phasing

2010-09-16 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Try both and look at the maps. Both are easy to run. (Which works best seems to vary a lot from case to case.) Yamei Yu wrote: Hi all, To decrease model bias from molecular replacement we can either use Parrot or prime-and-switch-phasing. What's the difference between these two programs?

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Dr. Mark Mayer
Ethan wrote I believe that deposition of Fc Phic FOM should be required. Certainly it should be the recommended practice. For the same series of structures I just deposited, which started the the riding H discussion, my mtz file had Fc Phic FOM + other data put out by Phenix - pavel can

[ccp4bb] Map density level

2010-09-16 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi, I generated a map using FFT, and tried to display it in O. By comparing with coot, I found that the level in O seems to be the absolute electron density instead of the sigma level. I am sorry I ask a question more related to O: can O draw the map by a given sigma level instead of the absolute

Re: [ccp4bb] Map density level

2010-09-16 Thread Nathaniel Clark
Hi, It can, just do fm-mode select rmsd I am curious though, I have heard that it is 'better' to build in units of absolute density, but I couldn't find any values. Does any one have a suggestion as to what absolute electron density setting is 'correct' for an Fo-Fc difference map? Or do you

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Eric Larson
Hi Mark, I assume you deposited the mtz? This is what Ethan was referring to - the pdb does not do well with maintaining all the relevant columns when submitting the mtz file. However, if you convert your mtz to cif yourself and make sure it has all the columns you would like to include and

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 16 September 2010 09:56:14 am Dr. Mark Mayer wrote: Ethan wrote I believe that deposition of Fc Phic FOM should be required. Certainly it should be the recommended practice. For the same series of structures I just deposited, which started the the riding H discussion, my

Re: [ccp4bb] Map density level

2010-09-16 Thread Tim Gruene
According to the really good documentation of O, e.g. at http://xray.bmc.uu.se/alwyn/A-Z_of_O/A-Z_frameset.html you have to use the command fm_mode to change this (and while doing so might read Alwyns FM_Overview in the same documentation which I just did and found very interesting!). Cheers, Tim

[ccp4bb] Intl Conf on Structural Genomics, Toronto, Canada, May 10-14, 2011

2010-09-16 Thread Thomas C. Terwilliger
Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to let you know about the upcoming International Conference on Structural Genomics 2011, to be held in Toronto, Canada on May 10-14, 2011. This meeting is the 6th in this series of biennial meetings of the International Structural Genomics Organization. The

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Tim Gruene
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:19:14AM -0700, Ethan Merritt wrote: [...] What's a structural biologist to do? The empiricist's approach. Experiment till you find a procedure that works, then stick to it :-) ... or the social approach: communicate with the person at the PDB responsible for

Re: [ccp4bb] Map density level

2010-09-16 Thread Dale Tronrud
The main advantage of contouring in absolute units is consistency. The density for a water molecule with a B factor of 20 A^2 will look about the same even if the noise level of one map is higher than another. (Within limits, of course) This means that the actual value you contour at isn't as

[ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Dr. Mark Mayer
Huh? That's not a cif fragment. What file are you looking at? In my experience the PDB feeds back to you a cif format structure factor file with a name like rcsb054058-sf.cif Near the top of that file you should find a description of the data columns. The columns present depend on what you fed

Re: [ccp4bb] Map density level

2010-09-16 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Thanks! According to the really good documentation of O, e.g. at http://xray.bmc.uu.se/alwyn/A-Z_of_O/A-Z_frameset.html you have to use the command fm_mode to change this (and while doing so might read Alwyns FM_Overview in the same documentation which I just did and found very

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H: R-factor is overrated

2010-09-16 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 16 September 2010 10:34:14 am Dr. Mark Mayer wrote: Huh? That's not a cif fragment. What file are you looking at? In my experience the PDB feeds back to you a cif format structure factor file with a name like rcsb054058-sf.cif Near the top of that file you should find a

Re: [ccp4bb] ICCBM13 - webcast

2010-09-16 Thread David Aragao
Dear All, Thanks to all that sent comments/suggestions during the webcast that allows us to keep sound and video in the best conditions. We would like to have a few answers if you watched talks online (privately to me, not to the list). This will allow us to report to HEANET (

Re: [ccp4bb] List of commonly used cryoprotectants and buffer molecules

2010-09-16 Thread Duangrudee Tanramluk
From the idea you described, HET codes in the last pages of this article may be useful. http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000context=chemistrypowers Best wishes, Duangrudee