Re: [ccp4bb] 27.5% R/29% Rfree for 1.75A structure (details updated)

2008-07-30 Thread Chavas Leo
Dear Jinjin Zhang -- On 29 Jul 2008, at 22:34, JINJIN ZHANG wrote: 1. Protein 100 aa, peptide 6 aa, co-crystalized 2. Space group: P43212. Overall R-fac: 0.03. Redundancy: 5 for 98% of reflections. B-factor:55 3. CNS refinement 4. Phenix xtriage checked, no twinning is suspected. 5. Water

Re: [ccp4bb] multiple XNAME scala? and changing DNAMEs

2008-07-30 Thread Phil Evans
Pointless doesn't do this correctly at present - I need to fix it For those crystals you are merging into a single dataset, you do need to decide somehow on a single average unit cell. Pointless attempts to do this by replacing the cell by the average over all batches within that dataset,

[ccp4bb] INSTRUCT workshop in Hamburg

2008-07-30 Thread Margret Fischer
INVITATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TANDEM INSTRUCT WORKSHOP Intrinsically Unfolded Proteins in Structural Biology” and “Complementary Methods in Structural Biology”. September 4th and 5th, 2008, Hamburg, Germany The aim of this tandem workshop is to define research areas that should be covered

Re: [ccp4bb] 27.5% R/29% Rfree for 1.75A structure (details updated)

2008-07-30 Thread Daniel Schlieper
Dear Jinjin Zhang, what happens if you treat your data as perfect twin? Maybe you do have a twin after all. Best regards, Daniel -- Daniel Schlieper email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Molecular Motors Group phone: +44 1883 722306 (x 305) Marie Curie Research Institute

Re: [ccp4bb] Meaning of sigma level of electron density map?

2008-07-30 Thread P K
Thank you, Paul and Hidong, for your explanations. Here is another way of looking at it (kindly provided by Ronald Stenkamp). === Think of the electron density as a 3-dimensional function with an average value of 0.0 (This is true if you have not included an F000 reflection, and it's true of

Re: [ccp4bb] Meaning of sigma level of electron density map?

2008-07-30 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear P K, Is it just me or are other people also enjoying the 'name guessing game' regarding posts to ccp4bb? This one came from P K [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could think of a few people with the initials 'P K' - not sure if everyone is a great biologist (as opposed to just a plain good one).

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Garib Murshudov
Dear Snageetha 1) Could you check please if specified atoms have zero occupancy. Atoms with zero occupancy are considered as absent and there are not restraints on them 2) symm y at the end of instructions means that the program check all possible symmetry operators and finds minimal

Re: [ccp4bb] Meaning of sigma level of electron density map?

2008-07-30 Thread Phil Evans
At the risk of deafness from bees in bonnet (not to mention flogging dead horses) ... ... the rms value of a Fobs-type map which represents the actual structure (eg 2mFo - DFc) is _not_ an assessment of the noise level of the map. The rms value of a perfect map of this type is function

[ccp4bb] Superposition of maps in diferent spacegroups

2008-07-30 Thread Ronaldo Alves Pinto Nagem
Dear CCP4 users, I was using MAPPROT from CCP4 package to rotate/translate an electron density map in order to superpose maps from different space group crystals. However, when applying the same operations (euler angles + translation OR rotation + translation matrices) into the maps and into the

Re: [ccp4bb] Meaning of sigma level of electron density map?

2008-07-30 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Hi Marko, On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 01:44:48PM +0100, Marko Hyvonen wrote: Marko Hyvonen University of Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] See: that is an email address I understand .. sort of ... Is that especially big or very small (in rms/sigma units)? Cheers Clemens --

Re: [ccp4bb] Superposition of maps in diferent spacegroups

2008-07-30 Thread Kevin Cowtan
OK, the first problem is whether you are using maprot in mode 'from' or 'to'. Depending on which you are using, the operators may be the inverse of what you expect. The second problem arises from the distinction between crystallographic and non-crystallographic maps. A crystallographic map

Re: [ccp4bb] Superposition of maps in diferent spacegroups

2008-07-30 Thread Paul Emsley
Ronaldo Alves Pinto Nagem wrote: Dear CCP4 users, I was using MAPPROT from CCP4 package to rotate/translate an electron density map in order to superpose maps from different space group crystals. However, when applying the same operations (euler angles + translation OR rotation + translation

Re: [ccp4bb] Meaning of sigma level of electron density map?

2008-07-30 Thread Marko Hyvonen
See: that is an email address I understand .. sort of ... Is that especially big or very small (in rms/sigma units)? Good question. The calculation of the sigma level is local in this case, and not uniform across the whole map of the world. In Britain, size 44 corresponds to 9.5 sigma

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Kumar, Abhinav
I have had a similar experience. I was trying to model a bunch of waters to simulate an unknown ligand (UNL) in an unmodeled density. The waters were all in different alternate conformations of the same residue number. When the occupancies of these waters were set to 0.5, the vdw repulsion

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Garib Murshudov
If sum of occupancies of atoms is less than or equal to one and atoms are not in the same residue with the same alt code then they do not see each other. Otherwise they see each other and there is vdw repulsion between them. this has not changed substantially since the first version.

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Sangeetha Vedula
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Garib Murshudov [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Snageetha 1) Could you check please if specified atoms have zero occupancy. Atoms with zero occupancy are considered as absent and there are not restraints on them They do not have zero occupancy. 2) symm y at

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Sangeetha Vedula
I am looking at my ligand library file that ProDRG generated. I do not see any column id that indicates that it is a restraints weight or such. Could you tell me exactly which one I should edit? Thanks, Sangeetha. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Robert Immormino [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Garib Murshudov
There should be something like: loop_ _chem_comp_bond.comp_id _chem_comp_bond.atom_id_1 _chem_comp_bond.atom_id_2 _chem_comp_bond.type _chem_comp_bond.value_dist _chem_comp_bond.value_dist_esd MAN-b-D O1 C1single 1.4100.020 MAN-b-D C2 C1single 1.524

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Aleksander Roszak
Hi Garib, This is a side-question. What you just said writing to Abhinav explains why I have problem of some repulsion between identical ligands with different tail conformations when I try to refine them at 25% and 25% occupancy. In my case the overall occupancy of the ligand is not

[ccp4bb] Building NCS mate in Coot

2008-07-30 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
Hi While building from scratch in Coot (3A resolution), if I can supply NCS operators in CCP4 format, is it possible to display NCS related molecules in the same way as crystallographic symmetry related ones? External scheme script is fine if that is the way.. (I worked out the operators using

Re: [ccp4bb] Building NCS mate in Coot

2008-07-30 Thread Paul Emsley
Partha Chakrabarti wrote: While building from scratch in Coot (3A resolution), if I can supply NCS operators in CCP4 format, is it possible to display NCS related molecules in the same way as crystallographic symmetry related ones? External scheme script is fine if that is the way.. Yes. If

[ccp4bb] RES: [ccp4bb] Beamline Stability Issues

2008-07-30 Thread Lucas Sanfelici
Hi Michele! -did you go in steps from 10 to 40 C? did you monitor drifts while doing that? has the energy range, where you do not observe problems, changed? In fact I was not planning to do that cause 40ºC seems to be the mono’s basal temperature. In addition, I operated

Re: [ccp4bb] Preventing close contact between protein and ligand

2008-07-30 Thread Garib Murshudov
I prefer occupancy that reflects state of things and underlying chemistry. Then interpretation of the results becomes much better. VDW repulsion may be a little bit tricky to deal with in complicated case with the current version (we are adding an option to deal with coexistence/mutual

[ccp4bb] Summary: Superposition of maps in diferent spacegroups

2008-07-30 Thread Ronaldo Alves Pinto Nagem
Summary: Problem: I was using MAPPROT from CCP4 package to rotate/translate an electron density map in order to superpose maps from different space group crystals. However, when applying the same operations into the maps and into the pdb files the maps and the pdb files do not superpose. I tried

[ccp4bb] Idealizing helix

2008-07-30 Thread Mirek Cygler
I am looking at a protein model (no electron density) that has a highly distorted helix. I would like to idealize this helix in the context of the protein, e.g. do least squares idealization with restrains on the backbone torsion angles, with the smallest possible divergence from the initial

Re: [ccp4bb] Idealizing helix

2008-07-30 Thread William Scott
Refmac should be able to do this without moving stuff too much. CNS (no simulated annealing) also can do this kind of thing. If it becomes problematic, you can restrain the backbone. You can also do this via coot (which uses refmac I am pretty sure). William G. Scott Contact info:

Re: [ccp4bb] Idealizing helix

2008-07-30 Thread Arnab Bhattacharjee
Can try HELANAL Thanks and Regards -- ARNAB BHATTACHARJEE Dept. of Bacteriology and Immunology SERO Group, Haartman Institute Haartmaninkatu 3 University of Helsinki FIN-00014 HELSINKI Tel. +358-9-191 26385 Fax. +358-9-191 26382 Structural Biology and Biophysics Macromolecular X-ray

[ccp4bb] applied optics--LCD projectors

2008-07-30 Thread Patrick Loll
This is way off-topic, but that's never stopped me before. And what group is better qualified to pontificate about matters lying at the intersection of computers and optics than this one? The LCD projector in our departmental seminar room was stolen over the weekend (!), and I have been

Re: [ccp4bb] applied optics--LCD projectors

2008-07-30 Thread Jim Fairman
Pat, Anandtech is a tech website that does alot of hardware reviews on just about everything you can think of. I don't know what your budget is or what resolution it is you're looking to project but you can get a 1920x1080 projector anywhere from $9000.00 and up. They may be somewhat pricey,

Re: [ccp4bb] Rotation axis

2008-07-30 Thread Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve
Hi Phil, If you have a reasonably recent version of the cctbx around (phenix, cci apps, maybe ccp4), try this: import scitbx.math rotation_matrix = (1,0,0,0,0,1,0,-1,0) fm = scitbx.math.r3_rotation_axis_and_angle_from_matrix(r=rotation_matrix) print fm.axis print fm.angle(deg=True) The