Re: [ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-27 Thread Richardson, Brian C.
Most of the labs sharing our Phoenix have had enough trouble with exactly this that our standard procedure is to now to use 1 µl drops (.5/.5 protein/well) in our initial screens – those scale up much more reliably to the 24-well format and seem less finicky in general, reducing the chances of an

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-27 Thread Daniel Picot
It is important to distinguish between the solubilisation and the purification steps: 1) During the solubisation step you need to care about the lipid/detergent ratio. The amount (not the concentration) of detergent (i.e. in non monomeric form, the detergent above the cmc) is important. You

[ccp4bb] Clustal omega

2012-03-27 Thread Jayashankar
Dear All, A bit offtopic question, Does any body know how can I get the PIR output of the aligned sequence from clustal omega. I have a full length protein solved, to give weightage during comparitive modelling, I use domains of the same/similar protein solved before. I expect an alignment

[ccp4bb] COURSE ANNOUNCEMENT - BIOCRYS 2012

2012-03-27 Thread Colin McVey
Dear colleagues, On behalf of the organizers, Maria Armenia Carrondo and Thomas R. Schneider I have the following course announcement: *COURSE ANNOUNCEMENT - BIOCRYS 2012* FEBS Practical Lecture Course Fundamentals of Modern Methods in Biocrystallography *20th - 27th October 2012 at the

Re: [ccp4bb] Clustal omega

2012-03-27 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear S. Jayashankar, have you tried the clustalw options '-convert -output=PIR'? This should result in a pir-formatted output file. Tim On 03/27/12 10:18, Jayashankar wrote: Dear All, A bit offtopic question, Does any body know how can I get

Re: [ccp4bb] Clustal omega

2012-03-27 Thread Jayashankar
Dear Tim, I try to model a full length protein based on various domains solved already. In that case, alignment of multiple sequence should approximately locate to the corresponding domain region. Clustalw results in an unexpected alignment file. Whereas the output from clustal omega is perfect

[ccp4bb] Coot set-refine-max-residues

2012-03-27 Thread Morten Grøftehauge
Hi ccp4bb, I've been having trouble with Coot. Specifically the scripting to change the maximum number of residues to refine. So if I try to refine more than 20 residues I get this neat little warning message in the terminal: WARNING:: Hit heuristic fencepost! Too many residues to refine

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot set-refine-max-residues

2012-03-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
works here on 0.7-pre-1 rev 3713 so try downloading the latest version if yours is 3713 On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 14:50 +0100, Morten Grøftehauge wrote: set-refine-max-residues -- Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy?

[ccp4bb] COOT Real Space Refinement keyboard shortcut??

2012-03-27 Thread Christopher Browning
Hi, I was wondering whether there was a way to assign a keyboard shortcut to the real space refine button in COOT. Atleast this way one does not have to keep looking back to where the real space refine button is to click it if you want to carry out the refinement. Cheers, Chris -- Dr.

[ccp4bb] granular precipitate

2012-03-27 Thread anita p
Hi All, I have set up initial screen in hanging drop trays with a protein of theoritical pI of 8.5. The protein is in acetate buffer 10mM, KCl 100mM and 2% glycerol pH 5 . In 85-90% of the conditions I see granular precipitate in 1 day. I tried to open the coverslip, and touch few drops, They had

Re: [ccp4bb] Clustal omega

2012-03-27 Thread Jayashankar
Dear Tim, Thanks, The Jalview, output to textbox in PIR worked thr trick. S.Jayashankar Research Student Institute for Biophysical Chemistry Hannover Medical School Germany. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: [ccp4bb] 24 well screw-cap crystallization plates

2012-03-27 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Brad, I am afraid that there is no alternate source for these plates. The screw cap system , I believe, was patented by the canadian company NEXTAL that was then assimilated by Q...N and the patent is probably still holding. Pascal -- Pascal F. Egea, PhD Assistant Professor UCLA, David

Re: [ccp4bb] dea all

2012-03-27 Thread Kelly Daughtry
When you lyse the cells and spin down cellular debris, is the pellet large and white (indicating inclusion bodies)? Is your protein soluble or membrane? What temperature did you use for expression? What vector are you using? Providing more details allows us to better answer your questions. Off

[ccp4bb] FW: For 24 well Netxal plates (non ccp4 question) == SUMMARY

2012-03-27 Thread Mathews, Irimpan I.
Hi Brad, See below my attempts on this in 2010. Regards, Mathews -Original Message- From: Mathews, Irimpan I. Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: For 24 well Netxal plates (non ccp4 question) == SUMMARY Dear All, Thank you for the several

Re: [ccp4bb] dea all

2012-03-27 Thread Kevin Jin
I guess you already run SDS-PAGE to check the pellets before and after sonication. Not only the media. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:35 AM, rana ibd rna19792...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear all I am expressing a 6xHis tagged in a dHBx protein in E.coli BL21 using LB madia, I am having problems with the

Re: [ccp4bb] COOT Real Space Refinement keyboard shortcut??

2012-03-27 Thread Debreczeni, Judit
Yes, look here: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Coot#Example_11:_Paul_Emsley.27s_Key_Bindings and the key bindings for r, x, t, R. JED. -- AstraZeneca UK Limited is a company incorporated

Re: [ccp4bb] COOT Real Space Refinement keyboard shortcut??

2012-03-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
I suspect Chris is asking for the shortcut to the zone refinement button, i.e. invoking the manual zone selection. Not sure if there is a scripting way to do this, nothing obvious. On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 17:03 +0100, Debreczeni, Judit wrote: Yes, look here:

Re: [ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-27 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Hi Matt Rajesh asked a similar question last week, below Essentially, you have to *reduce *the protein concentration when you scale up because you lose proportionally more protein from smaller drops. This usually works very well and we see no reason to use more than 0.3 + 0.3 for initial

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-27 Thread James Holton
Try this: 1) take your favorite PDB file and set all the B factors to ~80 (reduces series-termination errors) 2) use sfall/fft in CCP4 to calculate structure factors to 4A resolution 3) use sftools to add a SIGF column (0.1 will do) to make refmac5 happy 4) refine the perfect model against

[ccp4bb] Substituting zero vs. Fc for unobserved reflections

2012-03-27 Thread Gregg Crichlow
Please excuse me for bringing up an old issue. I have an interesting example of a difference seen when DFc was substituted for missing reflections versus when it wasn¹t. Maybe others had this experience. I had a structure in which the electron density showed two Œoverlapping¹ ligands bound in

[ccp4bb] P21, twinned date NCS refinement

2012-03-27 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Dear CCP4BBers and PhenixBBers (cross posting here, since we all read both anyhow) to the experts out there here's my question: We have a P21 dataset with 2 molecules in the asu and a refined twin fraction of 38% according to phenix.refine using a twin law operator. My gut feeling tells me

Re: [ccp4bb] Substituting zero vs. Fc for unobserved reflections

2012-03-27 Thread Ethan Merritt
[Snipped from the full message, which is appended below] The program that kept showing me two forms bound was not substituting Fcalc for unobserved reflections. So, I turned on the option to substitute Fcalc, and the minor form disappeared � the density looked like it did in the second

Re: [ccp4bb] P21, twinned date NCS refinement

2012-03-27 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Thanks Garib for your input. And yes we do see some split spots. We used XDS to overcome (I hope) most problems but still intensities of perfectly overlapping reflections will be too large. Would you think it's safer to integrate the data in P1 as symmetry mates will not be merged and then

Re: [ccp4bb] P21, twinned date NCS refinement

2012-03-27 Thread Garib N Murshudov
I would say that you should use ncs restraints in any case. NCS relates atoms and twin relates intensities. In some sense presence of twinning reduces information contents (in the limiting case the number of (effective) observervations becomes twice less) of the data and using NCS decreases the

Re: [ccp4bb] P21, twinned date NCS refinement

2012-03-27 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Unless you have very good reason it is better to use highest possible space group (without going over). Then you do not have problem of related reflections and covariances between them, If you go to P1 then reflection will be related with crystallographic as well as NCS as well as twin

Re: [ccp4bb] Substituting zero vs. Fc for unobserved reflections

2012-03-27 Thread Craig Bingman
I would be concerned about the completeness of the data if adding Fcalc values has such a large effect on the appearance of this electron density.

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-27 Thread Paul Adams
Hi James, my understanding is that phenix.refine allows any number of alternate conformers. There may have been a limit of 4 some time in the past, but no longer. So your idea could be tested. Cheers, Paul On Mar 27, 2012, at 12:33 PM, James Holton wrote: Try this: 1) take

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-27 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
phenix.refine allows any number of alternate conformers. Hmm. quoting our old friends from the validation circuit: Where freedom is given, liberties will be taken BR