Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallography on BBC Radio 4 next week

2012-11-23 Thread Gohlke, Ulrich
Dear Peter,

Thanks for the hint. Another possibility to listen to Radio 4 is for people 
that have an internet streamer (e.g. Squeezebox) to subscribe (free) to Orange 
Liveradio. This allows one to receive all BBC channels even outside the UK. 
Thanks to that, I wake up every morning with the Shipping Forecast (sadly they 
stopped playing sailing by...), followed by Farming Today, so I know 
everything about Schmallenberg virus in sheep and TB in badgers...

Cheers,

Uli

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[ccp4bb] about coot

2012-11-23 Thread Qixu Cai

Dear all,

I have some problems about coot.
1, How to run the Extensions -- All molecule -- Stepped refine at 
no-graphic mode of coot?
2, Are all of the extensions in coot the scheme/python scripts? If yes, 
where the script files store at?

2, And is there any option to prevent coot auto-loading ~/.coot file?

Thank you very much for your help!

Q. Cai


Re: [ccp4bb] about coot

2012-11-23 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Q. Cai,
ad 1) maybe Paul knows better, but 'stepped refine' sounds to me like
coot refines step by step and displays the steps inbetween, which
means that the combination with no-graphic mode makes little sense,
doesn't it? You can run refmac5 directly from a script instead.
ad 2) the scripts are located in
coot/wheezy/share/coot/[python|scheme] relative to your coot
installation directory unless you tell coot otherwise with your
personal setup
ad 3) you can remove or rename that file

Cheers,
Tim


On 11/23/2012 09:54 AM, Qixu Cai wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I have some problems about coot. 1, How to run the Extensions --
 All molecule -- Stepped refine at no-graphic mode of coot? 2,
 Are all of the extensions in coot the scheme/python scripts? If
 yes, where the script files store at? 2, And is there any option to
 prevent coot auto-loading ~/.coot file?
 
 Thank you very much for your help!
 
 Q. Cai
 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] about coot

2012-11-23 Thread Paul Emsley

On 23/11/12 08:54, Qixu Cai wrote:



I have some problems about coot.
1, How to run the Extensions -- All molecule -- Stepped refine at 
no-graphic mode of coot?


(let ((imol (read-pdb coot-download/3rso.pdb))
  (imol-map (make-and-draw-map coot-download/r3rso-refmac.mtz 
FWT PHWT  0 0)))

  (map (lambda (chain) (fit-chain imol chain)) (chain-ids imol)))


2, Are all of the extensions in coot the scheme/python scripts? If 
yes, where the script files store at?


All and more, I think.  They are in coot-top-dir/share/coot/python



2, And is there any option to prevent coot auto-loading ~/.coot file?


No.  Why would you want to do that?


Re: [ccp4bb] about coot

2012-11-23 Thread Armando Albert
Dear Paul,

 2, And is there any option to prevent coot auto-loading ~/.coot file?
 
 No.  Why would you want to do that?


You may want to open a different session in the same directory and not spoil 
the one you are using for refinement
Armando

I am out of the lab

El 23/11/2012, a las 12:32, Paul Emsley pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk escribió:

 On 23/11/12 08:54, Qixu Cai wrote:
 
 
 I have some problems about coot.
 1, How to run the Extensions -- All molecule -- Stepped refine at 
 no-graphic mode of coot?
 
 (let ((imol (read-pdb coot-download/3rso.pdb))
  (imol-map (make-and-draw-map coot-download/r3rso-refmac.mtz FWT 
 PHWT  0 0)))
  (map (lambda (chain) (fit-chain imol chain)) (chain-ids imol)))
 
 
 2, Are all of the extensions in coot the scheme/python scripts? If yes, 
 where the script files store at?
 
 All and more, I think.  They are in coot-top-dir/share/coot/python
 
 
 2, And is there any option to prevent coot auto-loading ~/.coot file?
 
 No.  Why would you want to do that?


[ccp4bb] PhD studentship

2012-11-23 Thread Laura Spagnolo
Dear Colleagues,

I would like to draw the attention of interested students to this opportunity 
to perform a PhD in my laboratory:
http://www.findaphd.com/search/ProjectDetails.aspx?PJID=41839LID=456

The deadline for applications is 18.01.2013.

Best regards,
Laura



Dr Laura Spagnolo
Institute of Structural Molecular Biology
University of Edinburgh
Room 506, Darwin Building 
King's Buildings Campus
Edinburgh EH9 3JR
United Kingdom
T: +44 (0)131 650 7066 
F: +44 (0)131 650 8650 
http://www.biology.ed.ac.uk/research/institutes/structure/homepage.php?id=lspagnolo
laura.spagn...@ed.ac.uk










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Re: [ccp4bb] Hgen ccp4i gui is broken

2012-11-23 Thread Petr Leiman
I have to follow up on my own thread because Hgen GUI does not start on my Mac 
(10.6.8) either. The same error message, which tells me that the tcl/tk code is 
broken. CCP4 is up-to-date. 
It would be great if at least one person tries pressing the Hgen button in 
ccp4i and gives a feedback to me or CCP4BB. 

Thank you,

Petr




On Nov 22, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Petr Leiman wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Hgen GUI does not start (the error message is below). The CCP4 version is 
 6.3.0-009 (64 bit). The system is 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP x86_64 
 GNU/Linux. Is this unique to our system configuration? 
 
 Thank you.
 
 Petr
 
 The error message is:
 
 can't use non-numeric string as operand of !
 can't use non-numeric string as operand of !
while executing
 if { ![$task_setup typedef $arrayname] } {
  PleaseWait
  return
}
(procedure RunTask line 96)
invoked from within
 RunTask hgen
invoked from within
 .module.menu.action.canvas.frame.t.f_47 invoke
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
 uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]
(procedure tk::ButtonUp line 22)
invoked from within
 tk::ButtonUp .module.menu.action.canvas.frame.t.f_47
(command bound to event)


Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 - Coot in Applications

2012-11-23 Thread Antony Oliver
Forgive what may be a very simple question…

I have recently installed coot using the very nice CCP4 .dmg (0.7.0-i386) - 
which now puts coot into /Applications
I now need to set a $PATH to coot, such that various home-made scripts now 
'know' where it is 

Here I have hit a hurdle.  Which binary file do I need to point a path variable 
to?

From terminal I can use the command ' open -a coot ' - everything works fine 
and dandy.
However, I cannot use ' /Applications/coot.app/Contents/MacOS/coot ' reliably - 
sometimes it works, but most of the time it crashes with the following errors...

Nov 23 12:17:02 coot-real[80005] Error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: 
CGSGetSurfaceBounds
Nov 23 12:17:02 coot-real[80005] Error: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ 
CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Nov 23 12:17:02 coot-real[80005] Error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: 
CGSBindSurface: Invalid window 0x8da
Nov 23 12:17:02 coot-real[80005] Error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: 
CGSBindSurface: Invalid window 0x8da
Nov 23 12:17:02 coot-real[80005] Error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: 
CGSBindSurface: Invalid window 0x8da

coot-real also fails - as it's obviously looking in the wrong place for files…

Acquiring application resources from 
/Users/charlesb/autobuild/Darwin-ras03-006.rl.ac.uk/coot-0.7.0-gtk2-python/share/coot/cootrc
INFO:: splash_screen_pixmap_dir 
/Users/charlesb/autobuild/Darwin-ras03-006.rl.ac.uk/coot-0.7.0-gtk2-python/share/coot/pixmaps


Any ideas or suggestions would be very welcome.


With thanks,

Antony.

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CR-UK DNA Repair Enzymes Group
Genome Damage and Stability Centre
Science Park Road
University of Sussex
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tel (lab): +44 (0)1273 677512

On Nov 23, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Paul Emsley wrote:


Re: [ccp4bb] Hgen ccp4i gui is broken

2012-11-23 Thread Martin Montgomery
Hello,

I get the same error message that you are seeing on either my mac (10.8.2 with 
a fink installed 64 bit ccp4 6.3.0) or our main linux server, again running the 
latest ccp4 with all the latest patches.

Regards

MGM


Martin G Montgomery
ATP Synthase Group
MRC Mitochondrial Biology Unit
Wellcome Trust/MRC Building
Hills Road 
Cambridge
CB2 0XY


On 23 Nov 2012, at 13:20, Petr Leiman petr.lei...@epfl.ch wrote:

 I have to follow up on my own thread because Hgen GUI does not start on my 
 Mac (10.6.8) either. The same error message, which tells me that the tcl/tk 
 code is broken. CCP4 is up-to-date. 
 It would be great if at least one person tries pressing the Hgen button in 
 ccp4i and gives a feedback to me or CCP4BB. 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Petr
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 22, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Petr Leiman wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 Hgen GUI does not start (the error message is below). The CCP4 version is 
 6.3.0-009 (64 bit). The system is 2.6.35-32-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP x86_64 
 GNU/Linux. Is this unique to our system configuration? 
 
 Thank you.
 
 Petr
 
 The error message is:
 
 can't use non-numeric string as operand of !
 can't use non-numeric string as operand of !
   while executing
 if { ![$task_setup typedef $arrayname] } {
 PleaseWait
 return
   }
   (procedure RunTask line 96)
   invoked from within
 RunTask hgen
   invoked from within
 .module.menu.action.canvas.frame.t.f_47 invoke
   (uplevel body line 1)
   invoked from within
 uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]
   (procedure tk::ButtonUp line 22)
   invoked from within
 tk::ButtonUp .module.menu.action.canvas.frame.t.f_47
   (command bound to event)



Re: [ccp4bb] Hgen ccp4i gui is broken

2012-11-23 Thread Tim Gruene
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Hi,

the error message (which I also can reproduce) says, that the expression
$task_setup typedef $arrayname
does not evaluate to a number - it's a coding error, something that
the HGen tcl-code passes incorrectly to the function RunTask.
Should be OS independent and fixed by the responsible, I dare say.

You can run hgen from the command line while you are waiting for that
to happen, though.

Cheers,
Tim

On 11/23/2012 02:41 PM, Martin Montgomery wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I get the same error message that you are seeing on either my mac
 (10.8.2 with a fink installed 64 bit ccp4 6.3.0) or our main linux
 server, again running the latest ccp4 with all the latest patches.
 
 Regards
 
 MGM
 
 
 Martin G Montgomery ATP Synthase Group MRC Mitochondrial Biology
 Unit Wellcome Trust/MRC Building Hills Road Cambridge CB2 0XY
 
 
 On 23 Nov 2012, at 13:20, Petr Leiman petr.lei...@epfl.ch wrote:
 
 I have to follow up on my own thread because Hgen GUI does not
 start on my Mac (10.6.8) either. The same error message, which
 tells me that the tcl/tk code is broken. CCP4 is up-to-date. It
 would be great if at least one person tries pressing the Hgen
 button in ccp4i and gives a feedback to me or CCP4BB.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Petr
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 22, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Petr Leiman wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 Hgen GUI does not start (the error message is below). The CCP4
 version is 6.3.0-009 (64 bit). The system is 2.6.35-32-generic
 #67-Ubuntu SMP x86_64 GNU/Linux. Is this unique to our system
 configuration?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Petr
 
 The error message is:
 
 can't use non-numeric string as operand of ! can't use
 non-numeric string as operand of ! while executing if {
 ![$task_setup typedef $arrayname] } { PleaseWait return } 
 (procedure RunTask line 96) invoked from within RunTask
 hgen invoked from within 
 .module.menu.action.canvas.frame.t.f_47 invoke (uplevel
 body line 1) invoked from within uplevel #0 [list $w invoke] 
 (procedure tk::ButtonUp line 22) invoked from within 
 tk::ButtonUp .module.menu.action.canvas.frame.t.f_47 (command
 bound to event)
 
 

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- --
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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[ccp4bb] Post-doc position in human ion channel structure/function studies at the SGC in Oxford

2012-11-23 Thread Liz Carpenter
We are seeking an enthusiastic and experienced membrane protein structural 
biologist with a strong interest in ion channel structure and function, to join 
the integral membrane proteins group at the Structural Genomics Consortium in 
Oxford. This post-doc position will involve purification, crystallisation, 
structure determination and functional studies of human ion channels and other 
membrane proteins.
For more information please see:  
http://www.thesgc.org/careers/oxford/postdoc-imp
or contact Liz Carpenter 
(liz.carpen...@sgc.ox.ac.ukmailto:liz.carpen...@sgc.ox.ac.uk)  for informal 
enquiries.
To apply for this position please follow this link:
https://www.recruit.ox.ac.uk/pls/hrisliverecruit/erq_jobspec_version_4.jobspec?p_id=105253

The closing time/date for this post is 12 noon on the 3rd of December, 2012.
With best wishes,
Liz Carpenter,

Dr Liz Carpenter,
Principal Investigator, Integral Membrane Proteins group,
Structural Genomics Consortium,
Old road Campus Research Building,
Old Road Campus,
Roosevelt Drive,
Oxford,  OX3 7DQ, UK
Phone: +441865617581


Structural Genomics Consortium,
Old road Campus Research Building,
Old Road Campus,
Roosevelt Drive,
Headington,
Oxford,
OX3 7DQ,
England.






Re: [ccp4bb] Equilibrium Relative Humidity matching

2012-11-23 Thread Boaz Shaanan








Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.

Dept. of Life Sciences 
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev 
Beer-Sheva 84105 
Israel 
 
E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il
Phone: 972-8-647-2220Skype: boaz.shaanan 
Fax: 972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710













This leads to a counter-intuitive observation - it is only the number of molecules in solution that affect the RH and not the type of molecule/ion - therefore one molecule of glycerol has the same contribution as a chloride ion or anything else. This
 means that there is no effect for charge etc. What does matter is how many species the salt dissociates into - this means that a given concentration of sodium malonate (3 species) will have a lower RH than ammonium sulphate (2 species (NH4 and (NH4SO4)-)
 and not 3 as might be expected).

This means that relatvie humidity is a colligative property:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colligative_properties

Doesn't it? So it should not be too surprising.


 Boaz

On 22/11/2012 18:32, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote:




Matt


My old Rubber Book (Handbook of Physics and Chemistry, 1976) has a table (attached) showing the lowering of vapor pressure by salts in aqueous solution, taken from the Smithsonian Tables.


I've never been able to make any sense of it in terms of cations, anions, valency, or charge density (position in Hofmeister series), whether concentrations are expressed as M or N solutions.


For example, of the salts mentioned on your website, MgSO4 seems to be anomalous.


My spreadsheet also has a little converter that my colleague wrote many years ago to convert vapor diffusion conditions to batch. This might be of interest to people who have to work in batch, e.g. people making crystals for X-FEL data collection. You
 can download it as a program fromhttp://www.douglas.co.uk/vdtomb/vdtomb.htm - it seems to work pretty well.


Best wishes


Patrick








On 22 November 2012 12:11, Matthew Bowler 
mbow...@embl.fr wrote:

Dear All,
  after a few requests, I have now added equations to the online calculator that uses Raoult's law to calculate the relative humidity equilibria for precipitant solutions (see
http://go.esrf.eu/RH). The new equations (4 and 5) allow the calculation of salt concentrations that will be in equilibrium with a certain PEG or other molecule solution - this will allow slow and controlled
 dehydration experiments to be designed in vapour diffusion plates, by slowly increasing the salt concentration in the reservoir above the equilibrium and thereby reducing the amount of water in the crystallisation drop by a controlled amount.  Hope it is
 useful, cheers, Matt.

-- 
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Synchrotron Science Group
European Molecular Biology Laboratory
BP 181, 6 rue Jules Horowitz
38042 Grenoble Cedex 9
France
===
Tel: 
33 (0) 4.76.20.76.37
Fax: 
33 (0) 4.76.88.29.04

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===






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Directors: Peter Baldock, Patrick Shaw Stewart

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Tel: 44 (0) 148-864-9090  US toll-free 1-877-225-2034
Regd. England 2177994, VAT Reg. GB 480 7371 36




-- 
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Synchrotron Science Group
European Molecular Biology Laboratory
BP 181, 6 rue Jules Horowitz 
38042 Grenoble Cedex 9
France
===
Tel: 33 (0) 4.76.20.76.37
Fax: 33 (0) 4.76.88.29.04

http://www.embl.fr/
===








Re: [ccp4bb] Equilibrium Relative Humidity matching

2012-11-23 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Matt, how well does it work in practice?  Did you check the colligative
predictions against the measurements that you originally made?

I agree that the PEG has virtually no effect on the drop equilibration.
This can be seen in comparisons of batch and v.d. e.g.
http://www.douglas.co.uk/convert.htm.  Therefore I always thought that
equilibration in high-PEG experiments was driven by any salts that may be
present - including the salt in the protein, which is easy to overlook.  I
remember a paper by Luft and De Titta about chaperone salts.

However, unless you know the relative effects of different salts, the
result is hard to predict!


On 23 November 2012 16:05, Boaz Shaanan bshaa...@exchange.bgu.ac.il wrote:





 *Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
 Dept. of Life Sciences
 Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
 Beer-Sheva 84105
 Israel

 E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il
 Phone: 972-8-647-2220  Skype: boaz.shaanan
 Fax:   972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710*
 **
 **
 *

 *
   --

  This leads to a counter-intuitive observation - it is only the number
 of molecules in solution that affect the RH and not the type of
 molecule/ion - therefore one molecule of glycerol has the same contribution
 as a chloride ion or anything else.  This means that there is no effect
 for charge etc.  What does matter is how many species the salt dissociates
 into - this means that a given concentration of sodium malonate (3
 species) will have a lower RH than ammonium sulphate (2 species (NH4+ and
 (NH4SO4)-) and not 3 as might be expected).

 This means that relatvie humidity is a colligative property:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colligative_properties

  Doesn't it? So it should not be too surprising.

Boaz

 On 22/11/2012 18:32, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote:


  Matt

  My old Rubber Book (Handbook of Physics and Chemistry, 1976) has a
 table (attached) showing the lowering of vapor pressure by salts in
 aqueous solution, taken from the Smithsonian Tables.

  I've never been able to make any sense of it in terms of cations,
 anions, valency, or charge density (position in Hofmeister series), whether
 concentrations are expressed as M or N solutions.

  For example, of the salts mentioned on your website, MgSO4 seems to be
 anomalous.

  My spreadsheet also has a little converter that my colleague wrote many
 years ago to convert vapor diffusion conditions to batch.  This might be of
 interest to people who have to work in batch, e.g. people making crystals
 for X-FEL data collection.  You can download it as a program from
 http://www.douglas.co.uk/vdtomb/vdtomb.htm - it seems to work pretty well.

  Best wishes

  Patrick





 On 22 November 2012 12:11, Matthew Bowler mbow...@embl.fr wrote:

 Dear All,
 after a few requests, I have now added equations to the online
 calculator that uses Raoult's law to calculate the relative humidity
 equilibria for precipitant solutions (see http://go.esrf.eu/RH). The new
 equations (4 and 5) allow the calculation of salt concentrations that will
 be in equilibrium with a certain PEG or other molecule solution - this will
 allow slow and controlled dehydration experiments to be designed in vapour
 diffusion plates, by slowly increasing the salt concentration in the
 reservoir above the equilibrium and thereby reducing the amount of water in
 the crystallisation drop by a controlled amount.   Hope it is useful,
 cheers, Matt.

 --
 Matthew Bowler
 Synchrotron Science Group
 European Molecular Biology Laboratory
 BP 181, 6 rue Jules Horowitz
 38042 Grenoble Cedex 9
 France
 ===
 Tel: +33 (0) 4.76.20.76.37
 Fax: +33 (0) 4.76.88.29.04

 http://www.embl.fr/
 ===




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  Douglas House, East Garston, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 7HD, UK
  Directors: Peter Baldock, Patrick Shaw Stewart

  http://www.douglas.co.uk
  Tel: 44 (0) 148-864-9090US toll-free 1-877-225-2034
  Regd. England 2177994, VAT Reg. GB 480 7371 36


 --
 Matthew Bowler
 Synchrotron Science Group
 European Molecular Biology Laboratory
 BP 181, 6 rue Jules Horowitz
 38042 Grenoble Cedex 9
 France
 ===
 Tel: +33 (0) 4.76.20.76.37
 Fax: +33 (0) 4.76.88.29.04
 http://www.embl.fr/
 ===




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 Douglas House, East Garston, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 7HD, UK
 Directors: Peter Baldock, Patrick Shaw Stewart

 http://www.douglas.co.uk
 Tel: 44 (0) 148-864-9090US toll-free 1-877-225-2034
 Regd. England 2177994, VAT Reg. GB 480 7371 36