Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-15 Thread James Holton
The principle difference between occ=0 and omitting the atom entirely is that occ=0 atoms exclude bulk solvent. Or at least they do for typical operation of contemporary refinement programs. So, by defining occ=0 you are forcing all map voxels within ~0.6A or so of your invisible atom to

Re: [ccp4bb] Hosed-Up X-Ray Structures: A Big Problem

2014-06-15 Thread Jeffrey Bell
Hi, all, I am glad to see these matters being discussed.  I think we all believe that protein crystallographers should be concerned with producing models that modelers and chemists can respect and use.  Schrödinger spends a lot of time thinking about ligands; its refinement program, PrimeX,

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-15 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi James, a remark: different programs may treat occ=0 differently. In phenix.refine (phenix.maps, etc) atoms with zero occupancy will be ignored for bulk-solvent mask calculation, unless you ask to do otherwise. For example, this means that if you want to calculate a ligand OMIT map both options