Re: [ccp4bb] Monomer Library [was Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space refinement is broken in 0.9.8.7]

2023-08-09 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
In answer to Paul, should be available soon.   Targeting Monday.

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Paul Emsley
Sent: 09 August 2023 15:31
To: ccp4bb 
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Monomer Library [was Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space refinement 
is broken in 0.9.8.7]

On 09/08/2023 10:54, David Lawson (JIC) wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Just wondering where we are with this fix.

The blog is generally the place to turn for this sort of thing.

Having said that, I missed the post about 0.9.8.9! But I have added one for 
0.9.8.91 (that revision fixed the missing peptide omega graph and fixes 
"Replace Residue" (needed for the upcoming Summer School)).

As to if/when that gets added to CCP4, that is up to Charles.

> Is it safe to apply the latest CCP4 updates?


Isn't it always?


Paul.


>
> Many thanks
>
> Dave
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> -Original Message-
> From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Paul 
> Emsley
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 5:11 PM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Monomer Library [was Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space 
> refinement is broken in 0.9.8.7]
>
> On 18/07/2023 03:55, Mark Saper wrote:
>> I reported this problem to Paul and to the group at least 2-3 months ago.
> Your email didn't arrive.
>
> Just to be clear, Coot's real space refinement is not (was not) broken, the 
> problem is that the version of Coot distributed by CCP4 and the version of 
> the monomer library distributed by CCP4 were not compatible.
>
>> It affects protein as well as [nucleic] acid.  I never heard back 
>> from Paul if a fix was in progress.
> Keitaro Yamashita alerted me to the problem in a timely fashion and an update 
> to Coot was added and documented in early June.
>
>
> [To Charles in particular] My commitments will be out of the way at 
> the end of the week and I hereby commit to making the 0.9.8.9 release 
> early next week.
>
>
> Paul.
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[ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Monomer Library [was Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space refinement is broken in 0.9.8.7]

2023-07-19 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Hi

The current version of coot in ccp4 (on osx and linux) is 0.9.8.8, since update 
12 in June

Charles

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Paul Emsley
Sent: 18 July 2023 17:11
To: ccp4bb 
Subject: [ccp4bb] Monomer Library [was Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space refinement is 
broken in 0.9.8.7]

On 18/07/2023 03:55, Mark Saper wrote:
> I reported this problem to Paul and to the group at least 2-3 months ago.

Your email didn't arrive.

Just to be clear, Coot's real space refinement is not (was not) broken, the 
problem is that the version of Coot distributed by CCP4 and the version of the 
monomer library distributed by CCP4 were not compatible.

> It affects protein as well as [nucleic] acid.  I never heard back from 
> Paul if a fix was in progress.

Keitaro Yamashita alerted me to the problem in a timely fashion and an update 
to Coot was added and documented in early June.


[To Charles in particular] My commitments will be out of the way at the 
end of the week and I hereby commit to making the 0.9.8.9 release early 
next week.


Paul.



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[ccp4bb] ccp4 update 009

2023-02-21 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Dear All

A little late, but update to 8.0 009 is now available.

Brief description:

ccp4cloud -update to 1.7.010 
https://cloud.ccp4.ac.uk/manuals/html-userguide/jscofe_version_log.html

ccp4i2 - update to v2.0.  https://ccp4i2.gitlab.io/rstdocs/updatelog/index.html


cbuccaneerNN - new model building program


pairef - update to 1.3.
ccif - update to mmcif_pdbx_v50.dic

refmac - update to cif handling and bug fixes

pandda (on osx and linux) - further python3 fixes

monomers library - new monomers, BJ3, BQG, CZU, DJ5, G5F, G7C, I1X, K39, P3C, 
UQO, WEL, WJB, ZN1, correction FES


Details of earlier updates are available at CCP4 8.0 Updates - Collaborative 
Computational Project No. 4

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Re: [ccp4bb] Coot (& phenix) on Ventura

2023-02-16 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Hi Pat

There may well be issues with the latest xquartz (2.8.3+) as the  libcairo 
compatibility version has changed to 1 from being 11 thousand odd.   This means 
that anything built against an older installation will fail.   The  workaround 
is to use an older xquartz, such as 2.8.0.

That pretty well summarises my knowledge, hopefully others will fill in the 
gaps.

Charles

From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Patrick Loll 

Date: Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 13:27
To: ccp4bb 
Subject: [ccp4bb] Coot (& phenix) on Ventura
Hi everyone,

I’ve been putting off upgrading to Mac OS 13 Ventura, but my computer is 
getting more and more pushy in its demands for a new OS.

Hence I ask, What’s the current status of coot running on Ventura? I’m aware of 
the issues that have been discussed in this forum, but that thread seems to 
have been quiet for a while. Are people able to get their work done under OS 
13? And have people encountered problems with any other structural biology 
programs?

Cheers,

Pat

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Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 8.0.008 Python2 <-> 3 problem

2023-02-16 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Hi Michael

New version coming on Friday.  Should fix the issues.

You will be able to upgrade using ccp4um

Sorry for the issues

Charles

From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Michael Weyand 

Date: Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 07:30
To: ccp4bb 
Subject: [ccp4bb] CCP4 8.0.008 Python2 <-> 3 problem
Dear colleagues,

First, I don't want to flood ccp4bb with all the concrete program error 
code(s). Therefore a more general description. I can give more details if 
needed. To the board or by direct mails to the real experts.

I would like to use the 
Panndda/PanDEMIC tools within our CCP4 
environment (version 8.0.008) but I ran in some Python issues, although CCP4 
patch 8.0.005 claimed various py3 Python fixes for Pandda. Even more by using 
the 2to3 Python version converter 
I found a number of Python3 (syntax and more) issues in the main CCP4 Python3 
folder/subfolders at
/ccp4/ccp4-8.0/lib/python3.7/site-packages/

Since my OS (openSuSE Leap 15.4) still comes with both Python version 2.7 and 
3.6 and CCP4 now comes (to my knowledge) with 3.7 I am confused what I have to 
correct/change to use the Pandda tools. By my error tracking I'm pretty sure 
that PATH and PYTHONPATH are directing to the CCP4 folders, but may be I'm 
wrong ...

And/or what was changed to the Pandda tools in the 8.0.005 CCP4 patch? 
Obviously, they are not working at my site ... :-(
For instance, all Pandda scripts are still coming with a Python3 obsolete 
program option "-Q" ?!?!
Was my 8.0.005 patch not properly executed? CCP4i teils me nothing.

It is a shame but my Python knowledge is more than limited. Therefore I ran 
2to3 for all Pandda scripts but then main CCP4 Python tools/scripts showed up, 
again with some syntax errors (= missing version 2/3 conversion ??) in the 
code. After also correcting these first 2-3 issues there were - by executing 
"pandemic.adp" - still more and more Python issues appearing...

Now I asked my self, what is wrong with my CCP4 installation? According to 
patch 8.0.005 these tools should run !!

And why are there version 3 issues beyond the CCP4 python3.7 folder ??  I'm 
confused. Any help is highly appreciated.

Best,
Michael




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[ccp4bb] Jiscmail message on disruption

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[ccp4bb] issues

2023-01-10 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Dear All

Jisc, who we use to run the ccp4bb have been having issues delivering to some 
(a lot) of e-mail addresses.  So far 1400 addresses have been unsubscribed, and 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Jenkins?

2022-09-27 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Can solve the mystery of Jenkins, it is our build system.

Charles

On 25/09/2022, 19:36, "CCP4 bulletin board"  wrote:
Hello David,

maybe a binary in $CBIN with the same name as a system command?
(try, e.g. 'apropos truncate'
truncate (1) - shrink or extend the size of a file to the
specified size
)

there used to be a switch to place $CBIN at the end of the $PATH -
maybe this helps?

Cheers,
Tim


On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 14:37:38 +
"David J. Schuller" mailto:schul...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

> CCP4 8.0.004
> Scientific Linux 7, kernel 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64
> mate-desktop-1.16.2-1.el7.x86_64
>
> This morning I updated my Nvidia graphics driver, then rebooted. When
> I logged in again, my desktop (Mate) was all messed up, no
> applications menus, etc. I perused the log files and found many lines
> similar to these in /var/log/messages:
>
> Sep 25 09:45:32 titan mate-session[1718]: WARNING: Could not connect
> to Systemd: Failed to connect to socket
> /home/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/series-8.0-linux/devtools/install/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
> No such file or directorySep 25 09:45:34 titan journal: Error
> connecting to system bus: Failed to connect to socket
> /home/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/series-8.0-linux/devtools/install/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
> No such file or directory Sep 25 10:12:35 titan pulseaudio[22894]:
> [alsa-sink-ALC887-VD Analog] core-util.c: Failed to connect to system
> bus: Failed to connect to socket
> /home/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/series-8.0-linux/devtools/install/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
> No such file or directory Sep 25 10:12:40 titan pulseaudio[23162]:
> [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to connect to system bus: Failed to
> connect to socket
> /home/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/series-8.0-linux/devtools/install/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
> No such file or directory Sep 25 10:12:40 titan pulseaudio[23162]:
> [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to connect to system bus: Failed to
> connect to socket
> /home/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/series-8.0-linux/devtools/install/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
> No such file or directory
>
> I do not have, and have never had, a user "jenkins" on my system.
> Note that the CCP4 workspace is implicated.
>
> I took the CCP4 startup stuff out of my .cshrc login script and
> restarted, and everything appeared to be normal. # source
> /usr/local/xtal/ccp4/bin/ccp4.setup-csh  >& /dev/null
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Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4i under M1Pro

2022-06-29 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
That openmp is not functioning is an issue that I will investigate.  It should 
be, so something is wrong.  Mostly I find that Sophos is sitting there using 2 
cores, and much of my IO.

Charles

From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Randy John Read 

Date: Tuesday, 28 June 2022 at 20:16
To: ccp4bb 
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4i under M1Pro
We don’t have any computers with Apple silicon in our group yet to test Phaser 
on ourselves. When preparing the Phenix distribution, Billy Poon has run tests 
and when Phaser is compiled for Intel and run through Rosetta 2, it’s generally 
faster than on a recent Intel Mac. However, there have been reports from Phenix 
users of severe slowdowns, and we don’t understand what the special 
circumstances are that cause it to slow down on specific jobs.

The best performance is when it’s compiled natively for the M1 processor, and I 
believe both Phenix and CCP4 are aiming to distribute natively-compiled 
software as soon as technical complications are worked out. So hopefully this 
is just temporary!

I hadn’t realised that the OpenMP wasn’t enabled on CCP4. In Phenix, there were 
issues preventing the use of OpenMP with Python2, but those should go away when 
the Python3 version is ready to deploy.

Best wishes,

Randy Read

> On 28 Jun 2022, at 16:45, Lau Kelvin 
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> Hello
>
> I have noticed running normal programs like Phaser MR on a MacBook Pro 
> (M1Pro) that jobs are extremely slow compared to my older computers.
>
> It doesn’t seem to be running over multiple CPUs anymore.
>
> Has this also been seen by others?
>
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[ccp4bb] CCP4/CCP-EM workshop at ECM33

2022-06-16 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Dear All

There will be a CCP4/CCP-EM workshop on the two days prior to the ECM33  
meeting at Soleil.   Details and registration are at

https://www.ecm33.fr/ccp4andccpemworkshops

Accommodation will be provided at the Soleil guest house during the workshop 
(individual’s responsibility to pay, but booked by ourselves).
The CCP4 day will introduce attendees to the CCP4cloud, in particular the use 
of AF2 models.

All the best

Charles

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[ccp4bb] CCP4/CCP-EM workshop at ECM33

2022-04-19 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Dear All

Following on for the CSD workshop e-mail there will be a joint CCP4/CCP-EM 
event at ECM33

https://www.ecm33.fr/copie-de-mechanical-properties


Date : 21 & 22 August 2022

Venue : Synchrotron SOLEIL

Organizer : Charles BALLARD

Description

​

The CCP4/CCP-EM workshop will focus on theory and practice in computational 
approaches in bio-crystallography and Cryo-EM single particle analysis This 
will be an in-person event taking place at Synchrotron SOLEIL - CNRS - Cea 
Paris-Saclay.



The CCP4 Workshop will focus on demonstrating the use of CCP4 Cloud for 
determining macromolecular structures from X-ray diffraction data. We will 
cover all steps from diffraction image processing to finalising refinement and 
model building.



To get the most value from the workshop, participants are encouraged to 
download and install the latest version of the CCP4 suite as well as register 
an account with CCP4 Cloud.


All the best

Charles

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Re: [ccp4bb] Security blockage: CCP4 installation on macOS Big Sur

2021-09-30 Thread Charles Ballard - STFC UKRI
Hi Yong

What I normally do is

sudo xattr –rc /Applications/ccp4-7.1

getting rid of the extended attributes seems to fix

Charles

From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Yong Tang
Sent: 29 September 2021 22:17
To: ccp4bb 
Subject: [ccp4bb] Security blockage: CCP4 installation on macOS Big Sur

Dear all,

I downloaded the latest mac version of CCP4 suite for installation on a new Mac 
(macOS Big Sur Version 11.5.2). The package was downloaded using Chrome. After 
unpacking and moving the folder to its destination /Applications/ccp4-7.1, the 
set up using

./BINARY.setup

gives error messages that the app was downloaded via Chrome and that "macOS 
cannot verify that this app is free from malware".

I tried using "sudo" but that didn't help.

Do you have a quick pointer for me?

Many thanks, -yong



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