Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10/laptops

2019-02-01 Thread Philippe BENAS
Hi Jan, Pedro, CCP4ers and Cooters, Sure Pedro, you're right: real 3D, I mean stereo due to differences in the path length of the pictures respectively in the left and right eye, haven't made it in Europe except in the UK. I think in the States as well Nvidia didn't get the expected success. As

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10

2019-02-01 Thread Jan Stransky
Dear all, thank you for the info. I have also noticed, that NVIDIA is not supporting 3D Vision activelly. You cannot even buy the glasses in our local distribution. I have just learn, that Plastation VR headset should be working without much trouble both Windows and Linux and has reasonable price.

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10

2019-02-01 Thread Pedro Matias
Hi all, Thanks Philippe, for the comprehensive discussion of the problem. I may also add that about 2 years ago I inquired our local DELL reseller about laptops with Quadro cards (for running WinCoot in 3D stereo) because they had listed in the US site models that supposedly would work. Sadly, th

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10

2019-02-01 Thread Philippe BENAS
Hi Georg, My first answer would be it's a bad idea for several reasons: 1. PRICE/PERF Laptops are always much more expensive than worstations for a given performance and often you cannot reach the performances of a desktop or tower computer with a laptop. 2. QUADRO + 120 Hz DISPLAY Then if you

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10

2019-02-01 Thread Pedro Matias
Hi, You need a laptop with a NVIDIA Quadro card that supports quadbuffered 3D stereo under Linux. I found this page https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/quadro-for-mobile-workstations/ that may help find a laptop with the needed specs. For example, you can find info about a DELL la

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10

2019-01-31 Thread Georg Mlynek
Dear all, I am considering to buy a new laptop and would like to install the latest ubuntu version and have 3D glasses. Following the discussions in the lasts years, this issue seems to be not trivial. Which setup of laptop and 3D glasses will work plug and play? And what about VR. When is coo

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2019-01-31 Thread Jan Stransky
ky > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2019 11:03 > *An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Betreff:* Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol > >   > > Dear all, > > I started looking into the never ending story of stereo in > crystallography... As with our standardized linux setup we

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and (pymol) Win 10

2019-01-31 Thread Philippe BENAS
Dear all, I had an HP Z620 that was dual boot Kubuntu 14.03 and Win 10. Coot was working in stereo mode without any problem for a year or so. But after one of their major updates Coot crashed as soon as the built-in IR emitter of my Asus VG278H turned on, as described Pedro and Jan. My personal

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2019-01-31 Thread Pedro Matias
Hi all, The problem with COOT stereo and Windows 10 is that the COOT binary is not compatible with the newer OpenGL drivers or somesuch in Windows 10. So, COOT runs fine in Windows 10 but crashes if you enter hardware stereo mode. However, PyMOL works fine in stereo in Windows 10. According to Be

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2019-01-31 Thread Hughes, Jon
Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Jan Stransky Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2019 11:03 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol Dear all, I started looking into the never ending story of stereo in crystallography... As with our st

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2019-01-30 Thread Jim Fairman
I had a Windows 7 machine that would run Quad buffered stereo back around 2009, haven't had a chance to try with Windows 10. On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 02:03 Jan Stransky wrote: > Dear all, > > I started looking into the never ending story of stereo in > crystallography... As with our standardized li

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2019-01-30 Thread Jan Stransky
Dear all, I started looking into the never ending story of stereo in crystallography... As with our standardized linux setup we probably are not willing to move to X.org-world, if was wondering, if anybody was succesful to make stereo working in Windows 10. I did read some NVIDIA forum, and it see

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2018-05-18 Thread Olson, Linda
Dear Daniel, This was my question also. I just purchased a new Mac book pro and see that Mantiz sells an eGPU compatible with AMD cards for Thunderbolt 3 MacOS. I would be very interested in anyone’s experience or advice in making stereo work on the Mac platform. Linda On May 18, 2018, at 8

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2018-05-18 Thread Daniel M. Himmel, Ph. D.
If I may jump in, I wonder if there are any hardware configurations (monitor, 3D glasses, graphics cards, etc.) that allow 3D graphics with a MacIntosh OSX platform. -Daniel On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Wim Burmeister wrote: > I answer a bit late, but I repost a message on 3D graphics from M

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2018-05-18 Thread Andrew Purkiss
Just to add that for the Dual-Link DP-DVI to work, you need an active adaptor which includes a supplementary USB power connection.Some years ago, we purchased some from Dell, with new machines. They are considerably more expensive than simple passive adaptors, but we have had no problems with a sta

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2018-05-18 Thread Wim Burmeister
Dear Christine, here you can find my xorg.conf file. https://app.box.com/v/xorg-conf I gave some replies below. Sorry for the late answer, I do not read the ccp4bb every day. Best Wim On 16/05/2018 19:56, Christine Gee wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2018-01-03 Thread David Schuller
The Mate desktop should also work; it is a continuation of the old Gnome 2 desktop. - dave schuller On 01/03/18 04:42, Wim Burmeister wrote: I answer a bit late, but I repost a message on 3D graphics from Mai 2017 : Hello, we just wanted to share our experience in finding a configuration w

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2018-01-03 Thread Wim Burmeister
I answer a bit late, but I repost a message on 3D graphics from Mai 2017 : Hello, we just wanted to share our experience in finding a configuration which allows to use 3D graphics under linux using Nvidia GeForce 3D glasses. We had qu

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2017-12-18 Thread Matic Kisovec
Dear all, in case anybody is interested in a used 3D setup for crystallography one is still available: See here for more details: https://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg41144.html Kind regards, Matic. On 12. 12. 2017 08:39, Jim Fairman wrote: Reporting in a setup that we just m

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2017-12-11 Thread Jim Fairman
Reporting in a setup that we just made: Quadro P4000 + 3 pin stereo bracket + 3d vision 2 kit + ASUS VG248QE. Running System76's PoPOS Ubuntu 17.10 distro - you'll have to install a desktop environment that supports non-compositing (ie: XFCE). Works beautifully. ---

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2017-11-28 Thread mesters
sorry, small correction, it should read "or a "new, see details" Quadro 5000with build-in*3-pin**.*" Am 28.11.17 um 15:40 schrieb mesters: Hi, yes, consumer cards do have OpenGL implemented on a chip but the Nvidia driver did not allow OpenGL 3D to work until February 2013. As of Nvidia driv

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2017-11-28 Thread mesters
Hi, yes, consumer cards do have OpenGL implemented on a chip but the Nvidia driver did not allow OpenGL 3D to work until February 2013. As of Nvidia driver version 314.07, Nvidia added OpenGL quad buffered 3D Stereo for GeForce cards (at least under MS Windows 7/8). However, this was never of

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2017-11-28 Thread Johannes Cramer
Hi Christine, as far as I know, it does not work at all with Geforce cards. The Nvidia drivers do not support windowed quad buffered GL, which you need for coot/pymol. It does not matter whether you use Windows or Linux. But this is based on my personal experience from around Oct. 2016. Maybe some

[ccp4bb] 3D stereo and pymol

2017-11-06 Thread Christine Gee
Hi, I have looked in the archive for posts about this, but there hasn't been one for about a year. Can anyone comment on whether they have managed to get a linux flavor and GeForce cards to work with pymol and/or coot 3D stereo? Geforce cards supposedly support openGL, but posts from October last