Re: [ccp4bb] Calcium soaking

2014-02-21 Thread xaravich ivan
Have you tried lower concentrations of Calcium soaking untli the crystals
do not crack? Or does it crack even at very minute calcium concentration?


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Masaki UNNO unn...@mx.ibaraki.ac.jpwrote:

 Dear all

 Apologies for the off-topic question:
 We are studying an enzyme that is activated by Ca2+. We obtained the
 crystals of the substrate and Ca2+-free form and solved the structure at
 2.7
 A resolution. However, the active site electron density map was not clear,
 although other regions are clear. We would like to determine the
 substrate-complex with Ca2+, which will elucidate the active site structure
 at a higher resolution.
 Now we have a problem that the crystals of a mutant which can bind the
 substrate and Ca2+ always have cracks in soaking to the crystallization
 solution containing CaCl2. Co-crystallization does not work at this time.
 We
 estimate the structural change in Ca2+-binding is not so big because the
 isozyme structure did not change very much when binding Ca2+. An isozyme
 structure in complex with the substrate was determined by soaking Ca2+ (and
 the substrate).

 How should we overcome this problem?

 Best regards

 ~~~
 Masaki UNNO

 Graduate School of Science and Engineering, Ibaraki University, Japan



[ccp4bb] Calcium soaking

2014-02-20 Thread Masaki UNNO
Dear all 

Apologies for the off-topic question:
We are studying an enzyme that is activated by Ca2+. We obtained the
crystals of the substrate and Ca2+-free form and solved the structure at 2.7
A resolution. However, the active site electron density map was not clear,
although other regions are clear. We would like to determine the
substrate-complex with Ca2+, which will elucidate the active site structure
at a higher resolution. 
Now we have a problem that the crystals of a mutant which can bind the
substrate and Ca2+ always have cracks in soaking to the crystallization
solution containing CaCl2. Co-crystallization does not work at this time. We
estimate the structural change in Ca2+-binding is not so big because the
isozyme structure did not change very much when binding Ca2+. An isozyme
structure in complex with the substrate was determined by soaking Ca2+ (and
the substrate).

How should we overcome this problem?

Best regards

~~~
Masaki UNNO

Graduate School of Science and Engineering, Ibaraki University, Japan


Re: [ccp4bb] Calcium soaking

2014-02-20 Thread Enrico Stura

Masaki,

If your crystals crack when you add calcium it implies that calcium  
binding induces a conformational

change.
You should try co-crystallization with an epitaxial jump approach:
 Stura, E. A., Charbonnier, J.-B.  Taussig, M. J.(1999) Epitaxial jumps.  
J. Cryst. Growth 196: 250-260.


Since it is likely that calcium binding destroys only one crystal contact,  
you should screen for co-crystals
with seeds of your calcium-free crystals. One of the planes of your  
calcium-free form should be able to stimulate
growth of crystals with calcium but your crystallization conditions are  
likely to be different.
Without seeding you are likely to be hindered by the nucleation barrier  
which seeding overcomes.


Enrico.

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:29:47 +0100, Masaki UNNO unn...@mx.ibaraki.ac.jp  
wrote:



Dear all

Apologies for the off-topic question:
We are studying an enzyme that is activated by Ca2+. We obtained the
crystals of the substrate and Ca2+-free form and solved the structure at  
2.7
A resolution. However, the active site electron density map was not  
clear,

although other regions are clear. We would like to determine the
substrate-complex with Ca2+, which will elucidate the active site  
structure

at a higher resolution.
Now we have a problem that the crystals of a mutant which can bind the
substrate and Ca2+ always have cracks in soaking to the crystallization
solution containing CaCl2. Co-crystallization does not work at this  
time. We

estimate the structural change in Ca2+-binding is not so big because the
isozyme structure did not change very much when binding Ca2+. An isozyme
structure in complex with the substrate was determined by soaking Ca2+  
(and

the substrate).

How should we overcome this problem?

Best regards

~~~
Masaki UNNO

Graduate School of Science and Engineering, Ibaraki University, Japan



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