Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-08-03 Thread Jon Cooper
Thank you very much for all the helpful replies. I have summarised the discussion here: https://justpaste.it/9cfl9 Best wishes, Jon Cooper. jon.b.coo...@protonmail.com Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email.

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread David J. Schuller
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 9:56 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein). Hi Jon, There are placeholders for ASP/ASN and GLU/GLN ambiguities: ASX and GLX respectively. You can just use those. AFAICT there no such thing for VAL/THR

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
the residue is. You would loose the knowledge that it is either VAL or THR in that case. Cheers, Robbie > -Original Message- > From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Jon > Cooper > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 12:14 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] Check

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jon Cooper
Thank you, yes, threading style tools to assess the likelihood of having a given amino acid in a certain position in the fold would be a good approach. I have tried one but wasn't hugely informative, in my hands anyway. All suggestions very welcome but big database science is a bit outside my

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Maybe a crazy idea, but couldn't one use various model/geometry validation tools to figure out some of those ambiguities? As a test one could take a very good 1.7A structure and do some random ASN->ASP, THR->VAL etc mutations followed by refinement (including hydrogens). Wouldn't some validation

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Natesh Ramanathan
Dear Jon, We did exactly the same back in 1999's. 1) Natesh R, Bhanumoorthy P, Vithayathil PJ, Sekar K, Ramakumar S, Viswamitra MA. (1999). Crystal structure at 1.8 Å resolution and proposed amino acid sequence of a thermostable xylanase from *Thermoascus aurantiacus*. J. Mol. Biol., 288,

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jon Cooper
Thank you so much for your replies. I apologise for being unclear. The protein is purified from a plant that hasn't had its genome sequence determined. We know the enzyme family of the protein and therefore the structure was originally solved by MR. The 'X-ray sequence' we have is just

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jan Dohnalek
If you know at least something about your protein, organism, type of molecule, ..., you could try mass spectrometry peptide mapping to known sequences, this may give you some answers for the ambiguities you might be seeing, if nothing else .. Jan On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 12:15 PM Jon Cooper <

[ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello, I am looking for suggestions of ways to check a 1.7 Angstrom X-ray sequence for a protein where it is impractical to do experimental sequencing, protein or DNA. The structure refines to publishable R/R-free and the main ambiguities seem to be Thr/Val, Asp/Asn and Glu/Gln where