[ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Jan Rash
Dear All,

 I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine rich
protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein have not
been successful although the secondary structure predictions, CD
spectroscopy measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I
presume that these lysine and arginine are the sources of the local
flexibility in the protein even though the protein is globular overall.
Moreover, my attempts to crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments also
did not achieve crystals. I have also tried the crystallization with its
binding partners and could not succeed.  I think any compound that binds to
the lysine/arginine side chains might affect the crystallization process
thereby reducing the internal flexibility of protein.  Can anybody suggest
some effective strategy for the crystallization?



Thanks

Umar


Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Stephen Graham
Try reductive methylation of the lysines:
Walter, T. S., Meier, C., Assenberg, R., Au, K. F., Ren, J., Verma,
A., Nettleship, J. E., Owens, R. J., Stuart, D. I.  Grimes, J. M.
(2006). Structure, 14, 1617–1622.

Cheers,

Stephen

2009/11/2 Jan Rash jan...@googlemail.com:
 Dear All,

  I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine rich
 protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein have not
 been successful although the secondary structure predictions, CD
 spectroscopy measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I
 presume that these lysine and arginine are the sources of the local
 flexibility in the protein even though the protein is globular overall.
 Moreover, my attempts to crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments also
 did not achieve crystals. I have also tried the crystallization with its
 binding partners and could not succeed.  I think any compound that binds to
 the lysine/arginine side chains might affect the crystallization process
 thereby reducing the internal flexibility of protein.  Can anybody suggest
 some effective strategy for the crystallization?



 Thanks

 Umar





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Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker

Hi Jan,

We have tried crystallizing a similar protein without success, later on 
it turned out that the protein was having a strong interaction with DNA 
that was not sequence specific. You might have a case like that


Flip

Jan Rash wrote:

Dear All,

 I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine 
rich protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein 
have not been successful although the secondary structure predictions, 
CD spectroscopy measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I 
presume that these lysine and arginine are the sources of the local 
flexibility in the protein even though the protein is globular overall. 
Moreover, my attempts to crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments 
also did not achieve crystals. I have also tried the crystallization 
with its binding partners and could not succeed.  I think any compound 
that binds to the lysine/arginine side chains might affect the 
crystallization process thereby reducing the internal flexibility of 
protein.  Can anybody suggest some effective strategy for the 
crystallization?


 


Thanks

Umar

 



Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Simon Bushell




Following on from Stephen's comment. Jena Biosciences sell a kit that
allows you to do it quickly and easily.

check it out here:
http://www.jenabioscience.com/cms/en/1/catalog/529_jbs_methylation_kit.html

We have had success in our lab using lysine methylation to crystallise
an otherwise recalcitrant protein.

Good luck

Simon



Stephen Graham wrote:

  Try reductive methylation of the lysines:
Walter, T. S., Meier, C., Assenberg, R., Au, K. F., Ren, J., Verma,
A., Nettleship, J. E., Owens, R. J., Stuart, D. I.  Grimes, J. M.
(2006). Structure, 14, 1617–1622.

Cheers,

Stephen

2009/11/2 Jan Rash jan...@googlemail.com:
  
  
Dear All,

 I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine rich
protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein have not
been successful although the secondary structure predictions, CD
spectroscopy measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I
presume that these lysine and arginine are the sources of the local
flexibility in the protein even though the protein is globular overall.
Moreover, my attempts to crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments also
did not achieve crystals. I have also tried the crystallization with its
binding partners and could not succeed.  I think any compound that binds to
the lysine/arginine side chains might affect the crystallization process
thereby reducing the internal flexibility of protein.  Can anybody suggest
some effective strategy for the crystallization?



Thanks

Umar



  
  


  






Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread gohlke, ulrich
Dear Umar,

 

 It's probably not local flexibility or the interaction with other molecules, 
such as DNA, that prevents your protein from crystallising but an unfavourable 
enthalpy/entropy balance of long side chains which are potentially restricted 
by forming crystal contacts. Mutation of these to small, low-entropy residues 
such as alanine might help. Have a look at the surface entropy reduction 
prediction server for example (http://nihserver.mbi.ucla.edu/SER/intro.php) 
and see if this could be helpful in your case.

 

Cheers and good luck,

 

 Uli Gohlke

 

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+49 30 9406 - 2725 (w)

+49 30 9406 - 2548 (fax)

ulrich.goh...@mdc-berlin.de

 

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Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

 

Dear All, 

 I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine rich 
protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein have not 
been successful although the secondary structure predictions, CD spectroscopy 
measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I presume that these 
lysine and arginine are the sources of the local flexibility in the protein 
even though the protein is globular overall. Moreover, my attempts to 
crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments also did not achieve crystals. I 
have also tried the crystallization with its binding partners and could not 
succeed.  I think any compound that binds to the lysine/arginine side chains 
might affect the crystallization process thereby reducing the internal 
flexibility of protein.  Can anybody suggest some effective strategy for the 
crystallization?

 

Thanks

Umar 

 



Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Andy Torelli

Umar,

	Check out: Czepas et al. The impact of Lys--Arg surface mutations on 
the crystallization of of the globular domain of RhoGDI, Acta D (2004) 
60 275-280.  They point out that sulfate ions can help mediate contacts 
between arginine residues from neighboring molecules in the crystal.


	You may have already considered the surface entropy server 
(http://nihserver.mbi.ucla.edu/SER/) to help identify any specific 
stretches of amino acids that could be mutated to reduce entropy and 
possibly promote crystallization.  Maybe there are a couple regions of 
your sequence that are flagged as particularly unfavorable in terms of 
their predicted entropy contribution.  There is evidence that lysine is 
more of a problem in this respect as compared to arginine (Derewenda et 
al. Acta D (2006) 62 116-124).


Good luck,
-Andy

===
Andrew T. Torelli Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Associate
Department of Chemistry  Chemical Biology
Baker Laboratory, Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
===

On 11/2/2009 8:39 AM, Jan Rash wrote:

Dear All,

 I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine 
rich protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein 
have not been successful although the secondary structure predictions, 
CD spectroscopy measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I 
presume that these lysine and arginine are the sources of the local 
flexibility in the protein even though the protein is globular overall. 
Moreover, my attempts to crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments 
also did not achieve crystals. I have also tried the crystallization 
with its binding partners and could not succeed.  I think any compound 
that binds to the lysine/arginine side chains might affect the 
crystallization process thereby reducing the internal flexibility of 
protein.  Can anybody suggest some effective strategy for the 
crystallization?


 


Thanks

Umar

 



Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Enrico Stura

Before deciding to change the protein sequence it is best to look at the
precipitation pattern of the protein as a function of various precipitants.
If this shows that precipitation is not within the standard range commonly
observed for other basic proteins even at high protein concentrations
then side chain mutation should be tried.
Even lysozyme would be hard to crystallize at 1 mg/ml at 38°C.

E.
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