Re: [ccp4bb] Formulation of my own mother liquor

2014-11-24 Thread Petri Kursula
Well I think some companies make the screens from stocks, the others adjust the 
pH of the final mixture, so you might want to check the small print for the 
screen you used in the first place…

But when optimizing with your own solutions, you would in general take the easy 
way out - make good stocks and mix them as you wish. 

Petri

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 On 21 Nov 2014, at 17:48, amro selem 
 03391c09f749-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 first i wish you nice weekend, then i wanna ask about formulation of my own 
 mother liquor, i want to optimize a condition containing
  0.2m MgCl2, 0.1m Tris , PH 8; and 20% PEG6K as pricipitant. (PACT)
 the question is , should i make a stock solution from every ingredient by 
 dissolving it in miliQ water. then mix all stuff  together  and add water 
 till final concentration with out adjusting final pH. OR dissolve the PEG in 
 pH adjusted buffer and then mix all ingredients , so the final pH will be 8.
 any suggest any idea or any one knows what the company do. 
 CHEERS
 Amr
 



[ccp4bb] Formulation of my own mother liquor

2014-11-21 Thread amro selem
Dear All,first i wish you nice weekend, then i wanna ask about formulation of 
my own mother liquor, i want to optimize a condition containing 0.2m MgCl2, 
0.1m Tris , PH 8; and 20% PEG6K as pricipitant. (PACT)the question is , should 
i make a stock solution from every ingredient by dissolving it in miliQ water. 
then mix all stuff  together  and add water till final concentration with out 
adjusting final pH. OR dissolve the PEG in pH adjusted buffer and then mix all 
ingredients , so the final pH will be 8.any suggest any idea or any one knows 
what the company do. CHEERSAmr


Re: [ccp4bb] Formulation of my own mother liquor

2014-11-21 Thread Janet Newman
Generally one will make this up from stock solutions:

Make up
1 M Tris chloride pH 8
1 M magnesium chloride
50 % (weight/volume) PEG 6K

Then mix these together in the right ratios

(for 1 mL)

100 uL 1 M tris solution
200 uL 1 M MgCl2 solution
400 uL 50% PEG solution
300 uL water.




Janet Newman
Principal Scientist / Director, Collaborative Crystallisation Centre
CSIRO Material Science and Engineering
343 Royal Parade
Parkville.  VIC. 3052
Australia
Tel +613 9662 7326
Email janet.new...@csiro.au

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Subject: [ccp4bb] Formulation of my own mother liquor

Dear All,
first i wish you nice weekend, then i wanna ask about formulation of my own 
mother liquor, i want to optimize a condition containing
 0.2m MgCl2, 0.1m Tris , PH 8; and 20% PEG6K as pricipitant. (PACT)
the question is , should i make a stock solution from every ingredient by 
dissolving it in miliQ water. then mix all stuff  together  and add water till 
final concentration with out adjusting final pH. OR dissolve the PEG in pH 
adjusted buffer and then mix all ingredients , so the final pH will be 8.
any suggest any idea or any one knows what the company do.
CHEERS
Amr



Re: [ccp4bb] Formulation of my own mother liquor

2014-11-21 Thread David Schuller

The most important thing is that you do it the same way every time.
But you might also put some thought into flexibility, in case you need 
to explore cryoprotectants, etc.


On 11/21/14 11:48, amro selem wrote:

Dear All,
first i wish you nice weekend, then i wanna ask about formulation of 
my own mother liquor, i want to optimize a condition containing

 0.2m MgCl2, 0.1m Tris , PH 8; and 20% PEG6K as pricipitant. (PACT)
the question is , should i make a stock solution from every ingredient 
by dissolving it in miliQ water. then mix all stuff  together  and add 
water till final concentration with out adjusting final pH. OR 
dissolve the PEG in pH adjusted buffer and then mix all ingredients , 
so the final pH will be 8.

any suggest any idea or any one knows what the company do.
CHEERS
Amr




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