[ccp4bb] How to calculate data collection strategy manually?

2013-03-26 Thread saleem raza
How to calculate data collection strategy manually.

I was wondering if any one can answer this, if we have to calculate data 
collection strategy manually?



regards
Saleem

Re: [ccp4bb] How to calculate data collection strategy manually?

2013-03-26 Thread Graeme Winter
Dear Saleem,

To compute one manually I take it you mean by hand with commonly
available software as opposed to via e.g. automated beamline methods?
If so:

start up imosflm
index your image(s) and estimate mosaic spread
select strategy, auto-complete, go

XDS has XPLAN equivalently, though you need to be careful to set the symmetry.

Best wishes,

Graeme


On 26 March 2013 12:25, saleem raza mysaleemr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 How to calculate data collection strategy manually. I was wondering if any
 one can answer this, if we have to calculate data collection strategy
 manually? regards Saleem


Re: [ccp4bb] How to calculate data collection strategy manually?

2013-03-26 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Saleem

I can strongly recommend reading and digesting this paper (open access from the 
IUCr website, so you don't need a subscription) - 

Dauter, Z., Acta Cryst. (1999). D55, 1703-1717   -  Data-collection 
strategies

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/1999/10/00/ba0020/ba0020.pdf

Once you've read it, the issues that you should take into account when devising 
your strategy shuld be apparent.

Of course, all the best integration programs also have strategy options built 
into them as well if you decide not to do it manually after all

On 26 Mar 2013, at 12:25, saleem raza wrote:

 How to calculate data collection strategy manually. I was wondering if any 
 one can answer this, if we have to calculate data collection strategy 
 manually? regards Saleem

Harry
--
** note change of address **
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick Avenue, 
Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge CB2 0QH
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic 
Computing) 


Re: [ccp4bb] How to calculate data collection strategy manually?

2013-03-26 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Yes, I highly highly recommend the Dauter (1999) paper that Harry has
suggested. Also, check out:

Dauter Z. Efficient use of synchrotron radiation for macromolecular
diffraction data collection. Prog Biophys Mol Biol. 2005
Oct;89(2):153-72.

Most everything you want to learn about data collection is in these two
papers.

Cheers,
Raji


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Harry Powell ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.ukwrote:

 Hi Saleem

 I can strongly recommend reading and digesting this paper (open access
 from the IUCr website, so you don't need a subscription) -

 Dauter, Z., Acta Cryst. (1999). D55, 1703-1717   -
  Data-collection strategies

 http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/1999/10/00/ba0020/ba0020.pdf

 Once you've read it, the issues that you should take into account when
 devising your strategy shuld be apparent.

 Of course, all the best integration programs also have strategy options
 built into them as well if you decide not to do it manually after all

 On 26 Mar 2013, at 12:25, saleem raza wrote:

  How to calculate data collection strategy manually. I was wondering if
 any one can answer this, if we have to calculate data collection strategy
 manually? regards Saleem

 Harry
 --
 ** note change of address **
 Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick
 Avenue, Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge CB2 0QH
 Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic
 Computing)




-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University


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2013-03-26 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Not sure why I keep getting this message from an email id in korea (see
below). Are other members getting this email as well? Is someone someone at
ccp4bb able to stop this id from spamming me everytime I send emails to the
BB.

Thanks.
Raji


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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:17:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How to calculate data collection strategy manually?
Yes, I highly highly recommend the Dauter (1999) paper that Harry has
suggested. Also, check out:

Dauter Z. Efficient use of synchrotron radiation for macromolecular
diffraction data collection. Prog Biophys Mol Biol. 2005
Oct;89(2):153-72.

Most everything you want to learn about data collection is in these two
papers.

Cheers,
Raji


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Harry Powell ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.ukwrote:

 Hi Saleem

 I can strongly recommend reading and digesting this paper (open access
 from the IUCr website, so you don't need a subscription) -

 Dauter, Z., Acta Cryst. (1999). D55, 1703-1717   -
  Data-collection strategies

 http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/1999/10/00/ba0020/ba0020.pdf

 Once you've read it, the issues that you should take into account when
 devising your strategy shuld be apparent.

 Of course, all the best integration programs also have strategy options
 built into them as well if you decide not to do it manually after all

 On 26 Mar 2013, at 12:25, saleem raza wrote:

  How to calculate data collection strategy manually. I was wondering if
 any one can answer this, if we have to calculate data collection strategy
 manually? regards Saleem

 Harry
 --
 ** note change of address **
 Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick
 Avenue, Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge CB2 0QH
 Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic
 Computing)




-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University






-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University