Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-23 Thread Pearce, N.M. (Nick)
interactions and > placing a compound with confidence is questionable anyway. > > > Cheers > > > M > > > From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of John > Berrisford > Sent: 22 July 2019 22:23:47 > To: ccp4bb > Subject: Re:

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-23 Thread melanie.voll...@diamond.ac.uk
d chemical interactions and placing a compound with confidence is questionable anyway. Cheers M From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of John Berrisford Sent: 22 July 2019 22:23:47 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread Joel Sussman
lf of Patrick Loll mailto:pjl...@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 1:17 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 The idea of contacting the editor (and/or auth

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread John Berrisford
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 Hi John These are great, but the things that make me suspicious are the values of overall R(merge); these are tucked away in the full reports, rather than highlighted with all the other structural metrics in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread Bärbel Blaum
-- Von: CCP4 bulletin board im Auftrag von David Schuller Organisation: Cornell University Antworten an: Datum: Montag, 22. Juli 2019 um 14:45 An: Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 On 7/22/19 3:40 AM, Bärbel Blaum wrote: "As I said, the lead autho

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread David Schuller
On 7/22/19 3:40 AM, Bärbel Blaum wrote: "As I said, the lead author may not actually be the crystallographer here" Bärbel No need to wonder, that info should be in the PDB file header. The author of the coordinates is not necessarily the same as the author of the primary reference. -- ===

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
>725 W. Lombard Street N571 >Baltimore >MD 21201 > > > >From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Patrick Loll > >Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 1:17 PM >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6M

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread CCP4BB
> Sent: 19 July 2019 18:43 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 > > Would it be possible to add a public annotations section to the PDB, to allow > us to potentially flag/warn whoever downloads that particular struct

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread John Berrisford
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 Would it be possible to add a public annotations section to the PDB, to allow us to potentially flag/warn whoever downloads that particular structure, there could be something wrong with it, such as wrong space group, no/poor

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-22 Thread Bärbel Blaum
477 94 72-- Von: CCP4 bulletin board im Auftrag von "Keller, Jacob" Antworten an: "Keller, Jacob" Datum: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 um 23:09 An: Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 I don’t think anyone mentioned contacting the author

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-20 Thread Gerard Bricogne
he protein chain right, and should then look if there would still be > >> density available to fit the ligand. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Herman > >> > >> VON: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] IM AUFTRAG VON > >>

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Green, Todd Jason
4 bulletin board on behalf of Robbie Joosten Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 1:24 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 Even though PDB-REDO cannot salvage this model without extensive rebuilding which is what Tristan showed, it is fun to l

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Keller, Jacob
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 If it is as it appears, it is disappointing to see this in JACS. I would expect better. Unfortunately, reviewers don't always get a lot of information to judge quality of structures (which has been discussed extensively on

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Roger Rowlett
properly refining B-factors is really important! Cheers, Robbie *From:*CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Bärbel Blaum *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2019 17:24 *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 Hi R

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Robbie Joosten
-Mail: baerbel.bl...@intherabio.com Phone: +41 43 477 94 72-- Von: CCP4 bulletin board im Auftrag von "Manfred S. Weiss" Antworten an: "Manfred S. Weiss" Datum: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 um 16:03 An: Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Carter, Charlie
Begin forwarded message: From: "charles w carter, jr" mailto:cwcar...@ad.unc.edu>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 Date: July 19, 2019 at 1:32:53 PM EDT To: Patrick Loll mailto:pjl...@gmail.com>> Hi Pat, I, too have fallen into this

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Bonsor, Daniel
: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 The idea of contacting the editor (and/or author) is an excellent one, and indeed the correct thing to do scientifically. However, I’m disillusioned: I’ve been down this path before with a high-profile vanity journal, and while the editors paid

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Patrick Loll
Mail: baerbel.bl...@intherabio.com > Phone: +41 43 477 94 72-- > > > > Von: CCP4 bulletin board im Auftrag von "Manfred S. > Weiss" > Antworten an: "Manfred S. Weiss" > Datum: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 um 16:03 > An: > Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Quest

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Best, >> >> Herman >> >> VON: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] IM AUFTRAG VON >> Rhys Grinter >> GESENDET: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 15:22 >> AN: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> BETREFF: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0,

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Tristan Croll
, Herman VON: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] IM AUFTRAG VON Rhys Grinter GESENDET: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 15:22 AN: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK BETREFF: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 EXTERNAL : Real sender is owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk Hi All, I

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Bärbel Blaum
: baerbel.bl...@intherabio.com Phone: +41 43 477 94 72-- Von: CCP4 bulletin board im Auftrag von "Manfred S. Weiss" Antworten an: "Manfred S. Weiss" Datum: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 um 16:03 An: Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

Re: [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Manfred S. Weiss
Hi Rhys, all three structures are at modest resolution and they don't seem to be properly refined. At least they are all below average. I wonder how this paper made it past the referees. I haven't checked the paper, but there are ways and means how to deal with weakly bound ligands in the best p

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Mark J van Raaij
to:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] Im Auftrag von Rhys Grinter > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 15:22 > An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> > Betreff: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 > > EX

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Herman . Schreuder
available to fit the ligand. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Rhys Grinter Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 15:22 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2 EXTERNAL : Real sender is owner

[ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2

2019-07-19 Thread Rhys Grinter
Hi All, I was chatting with a colleague during a recent synchrotron visit and they'd recently come across some ligand/drug bound structures associated with a paper recently published in a high impact factor journal. They had pulled the associated SFs from the PDB and found that the electron densi