Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-08 Thread Chris Fage
Hi Everyone, Thank you for the advice, especially Pavel's. My issue has been resolved. I lowered the occupancy and B-factors of the metal ions in the .pdb and ran phenix.refine for 10 cycles. This removed most of the negative Fo-Fc density. Anisotropic refinement of the metal ion B-factors was

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-08 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Chris, this certainly improved your model with respect to the data including all their errors. How do you know this did not make your model worse with respect to chemistry, respectively to what is inside your crystal? Best, Tim On 05/08/2014 07:26 PM, Chris Fage wrote: Hi Everyone, Thank

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-08 Thread Chris Fage
Hi Tim, That's a good question. The negative density vanished and the model itself has not changed much. I still plan to set up soaking/cocrystallization experiments with the metal ion. I am hoping this will increase occupancy. That is the only solution that comes to mind. Regards, Chris On

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-07 Thread Bernhard Rupp
/scattering_factors.htm Best, BR -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Sent: Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014 14:25 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy Dear Chris, In my experience

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-07 Thread Tim Gruene
: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy Dear Chris, In my experience, modern refinement program manage quite well to deconvolute occupancy and B-factor. In your case the negative difference density surrounding your metal ion shows that the lower occupancy could not be fudged

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Sent: Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014 14:25 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy Dear Chris, In my experience, modern refinement program manage quite well to deconvolute occupancy

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-07 Thread Tim Gruene
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy Hi Everyone, In my 2.5-angstrom structure, there is negative Fo-Fc density surrounding a metal ion after refining in Phenix. From anomalous diffraction I am certain of the metal's identity and position in each monomer. Also, the ion

[ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-06 Thread Chris Fage
Hi Everyone, In my 2.5-angstrom structure, there is negative Fo-Fc density surrounding a metal ion after refining in Phenix. From anomalous diffraction I am certain of the metal's identity and position in each monomer. Also, the ion is appropriately coordinated by nearby side chains. Should I be

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-06 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Chris, In my 2.5-angstrom structure, there is negative Fo-Fc density surrounding a metal ion after refining in Phenix. From anomalous diffraction I am certain of the metal's identity and position in each monomer. Also, the ion is appropriately coordinated by nearby side chains. Should I

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-06 Thread Steven Herron
Refining the occupancy will help your R-factor and flatten your density, but you need to be careful to also refine the B-factor of the metal ion. Don't refine both the occupancy and the B-factor during the same run (the two are correlated at this resolution), refine the occupancy of just the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-06 Thread Chris Fage
I have used CNS before, but not for this sort of refinement. I see in the bindividual.inp file that I can select atoms to be included--it is defaulted at known and not hydrogen. Do you know the proper nomenclature for selecting a Zn ion in chains A and B? Thanks, Chris On 5/6/14, Steven Herron

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-06 Thread Steiner, Roberto
Straightforward in Refmac...(a CCP4 package)... From my iPhone On 6 May 2014, at 18:02, Chris Fage cdf...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, In my 2.5-angstrom structure, there is negative Fo-Fc density surrounding a metal ion after refining in Phenix. From anomalous diffraction I am certain