Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-09 Thread Jose Brandao-Neto
Dear Samuel, I'm guessing you are not constrained by sample availability. Consider a multi-crystal approach to understand your native structure and contrast against structures with low occupancy binders (Pearce et al 2017, https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15123 ). That structure (a

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-08 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi, this is why Polder map tool also includes analysis of the map in question to determine whether it looks like bulk-solvent or something else, as described in paragraph 5 here: http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2017/02/00/ba5254/ba5254.pdf This analysis tells you in plain English what you are

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-08 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Hi Fellows, I'd really like to emphasize the point in the Buster instructions "be careful when examining fo-fc at low levels" when solvent is excluded. If the solvent contribution is omitted where you suspect the ligand (e.g. occupancy 0.02 in Refmac), there will be a fo contribution there from

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-08 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Samuel, On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 11:39:58AM +, Samuel Davis (PG Research) wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to turn off the bulk > solvent modelling in Refmac5, for the purpose of generating Polder > maps? I know that an option for Polder maps is directly

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-04 Thread Holton, James M
Yes, Dorothee is right. Don't turn off all the bulk solvent! That is not a polder map. In refmac you want to use the keyword: solvent exclude DUM And then fill the space you want to have no bulk solvent with water atoms with residue ID "DUM" and perhaps occupancy set to zero, since you don't

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The keywords are: SCALE TYPE SIMPLE SOLVENT NO I always use for a completed sctructure SCALE TYPE SIMPLE SOLVENT YES and then a set of 4 numbers for scale and Bfactors are output . There is an option to give these as a FIXED SCALE. Forgotten the exact keywords but they will be in the manual..

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-04 Thread Dorothee Liebschner
Hi, Please note that for polder maps, the bulk solvent is reset locally. Turning bulk solvent off entirely most likely deteriorates maps. Best wishes, Dorothee On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:50 AM Samuel Davis (PG Research) < s.w.da...@dundee.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone knows if

Re: [ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-04 Thread Edwin Pozharski
It should be according to the manual http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/refmac5/keywords/xray-principal.html#solv If you using CCP4i, I believe this is done by unchecking the "Calculate the contribution from the solvent region" box in Scaling section. --- I don't know why the sacrifice didn't work. The

[ccp4bb] Turning off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5 to generate Polder maps?

2019-02-04 Thread Samuel Davis (PG Research)
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to turn off the bulk solvent modelling in Refmac5, for the purpose of generating Polder maps? I know that an option for Polder maps is directly implemented in Phenix, but we ideally want to use Refmac5, as we have used it for the rest of our